Windhorst : George likely to be traded(Indy clearing roster spots?)

[Eddie20]

@xortiz4x

Sources: Pacers asking for 3 of 4 from group of Avery Bradley, Jae Crowder, Marcus Smart, and Jaylen Brown + 2017 Nets pick for Paul George.

Probably not a real "source."

Still, if that's the case, then uh ..

Bradley, Brown, 17 for George?

I'd do it, but if they have very strong indication he wouldn't re-sign, probably not worth it.

It's 3 of 4 from group of Avery Bradley, Jae Crowder, Marcus Smart, and Jaylen Brown . The 17 pick would be in addition to the 3.

[j804]

Ah well that pick is going to just gain value as the draft nears. No need to rush things I'm fine with staying put.

[fairweatherfan]

https://twitter.com/xOrtiz4x/status/834841063122681864


Sources: Pacers asking for 3 of 4 from group of Avery Bradley, Jae Crowder, Marcus Smart, and Jaylen Brown + 2017 Nets pick for Paul George.

OUCH!

i would have a problem giving that much for 20 year old Michael Jordan

This is why the Celtics can't get a trade done. They way overvalue their picks/players

i don't think he's front office

[kozlodoev]

Ellis would be a [dang] good 6th man, plus he will be expiring soon.

If by "soon" you mean 2019, then yes.

Also, Ellis has been cooked for a couple of years now.

[TA9]

Sam Amick is reporting that George is "hell-bent" on going to the Lakers if he's not competing for a title in Indiana.

Now, how much of that is the usual LA spin I don't know, but I'm not all that interested in trading for him if that is truly the case.

The kid is a die hard Lakers fan, hence all the rumors regarding George to LA. Then again, they also claimed that DeRozan would join LA this summer, but we all saw what happened.

[CoachBo]

You're not building a contender before Isaiah / Horford are in their mid-30s without taking a major risk, is what I'm saying.

I just don't think it happens.

If you want to play it safe and build the youth up around those guys, then this team is a bridge to that future young team.  That future young team will have a lot of draft talent, but it may not be better than the team we have now.

You're already a 2 seed in the East!  If you stand pat, you'd still be adding pieces to a team with IT & Horford along with getting the continued growth of guys like Crowder & Smart going forward.  They'll never be "that young" team.  Certainly not in a Philly sense.   There is zero indication that this team is plateauing if they don't do anything right now.   

With significant rebounding and defense issues, I completely disagree.

So where does the PG trade giving up Crowder, Smart, Brown, and the BKN pick get you this season?

I'm not moving three of those pieces to Indiana. Two of them, sure, and the Brooklyn pick. Three is nuts, and I frankly doubt the report.

George is a star. Period. I have faith they'll add a rebounder if they do that deal, and that moves the needle near Cleveland.

Good enough. The 18 draft looks good, so the draft nuts can shift their unhealthy obsession to that one.

The idea that permeates this board that Ainge is going to draft a champion is ridiculous. Not. Happening.

I am with you up until the last part. 2/4 makes sense. We get a foundational piece, while retaining a pick to flip for another good player. That would put us in the highest stratosphere.

I honestly believe if it comes down to it, we would be able to draft a championship level team. The problem is there is a ton of uncertainty. The potential is greater, but the floor is also more likely and lower.

Sorry. Ainge misses too often. Too many Greek Freaks and DeAndre Jordans running around.

This franchise will be on a respectable but non-contending treadmill forever trying to draft a champion. He's not capable of doing it.

[RJ87]

Denver made a big offer for PG13.

Pacers declined.

PG13's people told them he wouldn't say long-term, they pulled out.

Chris HaynesVerified account‏@ChrisBHaynes  20m20 minutes ago
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 Paul George respects what GM Tim Connelly is building in Denver, but with San Antonio, Golden State in the West, there's no path to Finals.

Marc SteinVerified account‏@ESPNSteinLine  27m27 minutes ago
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 Sources tell @ChrisBHaynes and me that it's been conveyed to Denver that Paul George would be highly unlikely to commit there long term.

[chilidawg]

@xortiz4x

Sources: Pacers asking for 3 of 4 from group of Avery Bradley, Jae Crowder, Marcus Smart, and Jaylen Brown + 2017 Nets pick for Paul George.

Probably not a real "source."

Still, if that's the case, then uh ..

Bradley, Brown, 17 for George?

I'd do it, but if they have very strong indication he wouldn't re-sign, probably not worth it.

I think you're misreading, the rumor is they want 3 of the 4 PLAYERS plus the pick. So add Smart or Crowder to your package, and also take Monta's contract for Amir's.

So you get worse at the 1,2 and 4, for an upgrade from Crowder to George, take on Monta Ellis, and lose a top 4 pick? 

[rondohondo]

IT trolling

https://mobile.twitter.com/Isaiah_Thomas/status/834849739363467266

[jpotter33]

Sam Amick is reporting that George is "hell-bent" on going to the Lakers if he's not competing for a title in Indiana.

Now, how much of that is the usual LA spin I don't know, but I'm not all that interested in trading for him if that is truly the case.

The kid is a die hard Lakers fan, hence all the rumors regarding George to LA. Then again, they also claimed that DeRozan would join LA this summer, but we all saw what happened.

Granted, Amick also said that he'd still take the chance if he was Boston, though not Denver. Thinks Boston could keep him ultimately if they're competing.

[fairweatherfan]

@xortiz4x

Sources: Pacers asking for 3 of 4 from group of Avery Bradley, Jae Crowder, Marcus Smart, and Jaylen Brown + 2017 Nets pick for Paul George.

Probably not a real "source."

Still, if that's the case, then uh ..

Bradley, Brown, 17 for George?

I'd do it, but if they have very strong indication he wouldn't re-sign, probably not worth it.

I think you're misreading, the rumor is they want 3 of the 4 PLAYERS plus the pick. So add Smart or Crowder to your package, and also take Monta's contract for Amir's.

So you get worse at the 1,2 and 4, for an upgrade from Crowder to George, take on Monta Ellis, and lose a top 4 pick?

Allegedly yes. If that is accurate, I allegedly don't blame Danny a bit. Who knows, though. But that sure sounds like what a price we wouldn't meet might look like.

[manl_lui]

IT trolling

https://mobile.twitter.com/Isaiah_Thomas/status/834849739363467266

deal or not, this makes me like IT more and more...

[celticinorlando]

Keep the pick and draft a difference maker.

Thin the roster herd...Jerebko, Amir, Zeller, Young..sign players...Hope they catch get by cleveland

[Trifecta]

IT trolling

https://mobile.twitter.com/Isaiah_Thomas/status/834849739363467266

This is kind of annoying now, given how it doesn't look like we're doing anything.

[PhoSita]

It'll be fun watching the Deangelo / George / Ingram Lakers win 40-45 games every year through Paul George's prime.  Enjoy that, PG.