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Re: Woj Bomb: DeMarcus Cousins traded to Pelicans
« Reply #165 on: February 20, 2017, 08:52:39 AM »

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didn't have to give up this years brooklyn pick also or brown

not happy :(

Re: Woj Bomb: DeMarcus Cousins traded to Pelicans
« Reply #166 on: February 20, 2017, 08:55:07 AM »

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Great trade for Sacramento,  terrible, short sighted
 trade for New Orleans, they basically gave up 2 lottery picks. They didn't address any of their weaknesses and sacrificed their ability to build a team around Davis. Smh.

Huh?

They added an All-NBA player at a position of need.  This is them building around Davis.
Yep and frankly I'd be surprised if the 2017 pick is a lottery pick.  I fully expect New Orleans to make the playoffs as the 8th seed this year.  I mean they are only 2.5 games behind Denver and can't see how they don't catch them, Portland, and Sacto after this trade.

And they still have a decent enough team

PG - Holiday, Frazier
SG - Moore, Pondexter
SF - Hill, Cunningham, Motiejunas
PF - Cousins, Jones, Diallo
C - Davis, Asik, Ajinca

I'd expect them to try to move Ajinca for a backup wing of some kind.  Maybe they sign someone like Hollis Thompson to provide some shooting off the bench.
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Re: Woj Bomb: DeMarcus Cousins traded to Pelicans
« Reply #167 on: February 20, 2017, 08:56:07 AM »

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27 other GM's decided not to match that offer. So it's not just Ainge. There is reason why DMC price was so low. I don't know the reason but there must be. Kings didn't get anything in return except for loto pick stacked draft which is good but should have been more for DMC. Hield will not be better than McLemore, Evans is at the end of his career and Galloway is nice role player and that it's. I don't see any of these players still in Sac in 5 years.

And for the Celtics i'm for keeping the Brooklyn picks and having a team that is combination of young and expirienced players. I'm not for all in in terms of trade all assets to try to get title, i want Boston to be title contender for the next 15 years, like San Antonio. Brown, Smart, Brooklyn picks should be the future when Horford and IT will leave the C's.

I want to believe that DA has the word that some good player will sign in free agency with out giving up assets. I want to believe that player is Hayward.

So i think Fultz/Ball and Hayward is bigger than DMC. I don't want mid season trades but if we don't get better in the summer THAN i will be little dissapointed. Now i'm not too bummed about DMC not being a Celtic

Re: Woj Bomb: DeMarcus Cousins traded to Pelicans
« Reply #168 on: February 20, 2017, 08:59:54 AM »

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they could have had cousin without the brooklyn pick or at least top 2 protected it, new orealns protected its pick

Re: Woj Bomb: DeMarcus Cousins traded to Pelicans
« Reply #169 on: February 20, 2017, 09:03:04 AM »

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Great trade for Sacramento,  terrible, short sighted
 trade for New Orleans, they basically gave up 2 lottery picks. They didn't address any of their weaknesses and sacrificed their ability to build a team around Davis. Smh.

Huh?

They added an All-NBA player at a position of need.  This is them building around Davis.

How does this make Davis better? Cousins is a ballstopper who plays Davis's best position. New Orleans ceiling is now becoming the best team at making and defending two point shots in a league where no one is taking them. 

To say nothing of ALL the problems Cousins brings both on and off the court.

Re: Woj Bomb: DeMarcus Cousins traded to Pelicans
« Reply #170 on: February 20, 2017, 09:12:43 AM »

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Great trade for Sacramento,  terrible, short sighted
 trade for New Orleans, they basically gave up 2 lottery picks. They didn't address any of their weaknesses and sacrificed their ability to build a team around Davis. Smh.

Huh?

They added an All-NBA player at a position of need.  This is them building around Davis.

How does this make Davis better? Cousins is a ballstopper who plays Davis's best position. New Orleans ceiling is now becoming the best team at making and defending two point shots in a league where no one is taking them. 

To say nothing of ALL the problems Cousins brings both on and off the court.
Cousins is not a ballstopper. I don't know where you get that idea.
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Re: Woj Bomb: DeMarcus Cousins traded to Pelicans
« Reply #171 on: February 20, 2017, 09:14:45 AM »

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I would love to have Cousins in the C's.

It is a mystery to me why Divac sold so low.

Portland just got a first rounder and Nurkic for Plumlee's expiring (and a second).

I just can't believe the best deal that SAC got for Cousins is what they got from NOP.

Re: Woj Bomb: DeMarcus Cousins traded to Pelicans
« Reply #172 on: February 20, 2017, 09:16:04 AM »

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Great trade for Sacramento,  terrible, short sighted
 trade for New Orleans, they basically gave up 2 lottery picks. They didn't address any of their weaknesses and sacrificed their ability to build a team around Davis. Smh.

Huh?

They added an All-NBA player at a position of need.  This is them building around Davis.

How does this make Davis better? Cousins is a ballstopper who plays Davis's best position. New Orleans ceiling is now becoming the best team at making and defending two point shots in a league where no one is taking them. 

To say nothing of ALL the problems Cousins brings both on and off the court.

Both Cousins (1.7 3PM per game; 35.6%) and Davis are floor spacers, both move the ball (Cousins: 4.8 assists), and both play different positions.


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Re: Woj Bomb: DeMarcus Cousins traded to Pelicans
« Reply #173 on: February 20, 2017, 09:18:34 AM »

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I don't think the Celtics would have had to include either Nets pick to outbid the NO offer for Cousins.  That's the part that bothers me most. 

Brown, the rights to Zizic (whom Vlade I thought I'd read really loves), and a collection of non-Nets draft picks is a better offer than Hield (who is 23 I think, and so far has really struggled), and a 1st that's likely going to be around pick #16 (Zizic is worth that at least).  Add to that the ability to offer their own 1st, the clippers 1st, the Memphis 1st, and/or the plethora of 2nds the C's own, and Ainge could have easily topped NO's package without either Nets pick.  This is what upsets me.  Cousins on this team is a perfect on court fit.  He's exactly what they lack and need.  A team with Cousins at the 5, Horford the 4, Crowder, Bradley, IT, Smart, etc. is a legit title contender.  Certainly it's a team that could beat Cleveland.  Plus they would still have the Nets picks......sigh....

That being said....

Clearly the lack of interest, and cost, throughout the league in Cousins, means that he is one bad dude.   He's arguably a top 5-10 talent, and best big in the league.  A franchise type talent, in a league where franchise type players win teams titles.  Yet, 90% of  the league's teams didn't want him at a severely discounted price.  That tells me that he is a plague. That there are things about him, or his personality, that we don't know.  We all know he's a knucklehead and unstable, but so aren't other talented players in the league.  For virtually everyone to pass on him for 20 cents on the dollar, the writing about him is on the table.  For shame, cuz with his talent on this roster, and at that price, the Celtics would be a legitimate title contender.  Oh well.  It sucks, but my eyes tell me the reasons not to trade for him were legitimate. 

Re: Woj Bomb: DeMarcus Cousins traded to Pelicans
« Reply #174 on: February 20, 2017, 09:20:26 AM »

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Great trade for Sacramento,  terrible, short sighted
 trade for New Orleans, they basically gave up 2 lottery picks. They didn't address any of their weaknesses and sacrificed their ability to build a team around Davis. Smh.

Huh?

They added an All-NBA player at a position of need.  This is them building around Davis.

How does this make Davis better? Cousins is a ballstopper who plays Davis's best position. New Orleans ceiling is now becoming the best team at making and defending two point shots in a league where no one is taking them. 

To say nothing of ALL the problems Cousins brings both on and off the court.
Davis has made it clear that he doesn't want to play C.  That's why NOP was kicking the tires on other centers:  Okafor, Lopez, ...   They just lucked into trading relatively little to get the best C in the league. 

Long two point shots are out of favor but points in the paint most certainly are not.  I'll take a team that can score in the paint and defend the rim over a 3pt chucking team. 

Re: Woj Bomb: DeMarcus Cousins traded to Pelicans
« Reply #175 on: February 20, 2017, 09:25:20 AM »

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HALLELUJAH! That punk won't be on our team now!!

Davis will also be leaving NOLA soon!! Cousins is a jerk. A class act like Davis will hit the road rather than deal with his antics.

Re: Woj Bomb: DeMarcus Cousins traded to Pelicans
« Reply #176 on: February 20, 2017, 09:27:21 AM »

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Bahahaha I kept trying to tell you guys Danny didn't want him. People on here would have given every asset we have for him and I kept saying WAY to much! I got pounded by people saying you had to give up everything "go all in" to get him. Let me ask you this did the Pelicans go all in, did they give up all their assets? ;)

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« Reply #177 on: February 20, 2017, 09:27:31 AM »

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I would love to have Cousins in the C's.

It is a mystery to me why Divac sold so low.

Portland just got a first rounder and Nurkic for Plumlee's expiring (and a second).

I just can't believe the best deal that SAC got for Cousins is what they got from NOP.
we have to trust the market and not our collective posting judgement. cousins' woes and drawbacks count for more than many of us may think.

the market may also be as no demanding as we think here. the good side? perhaps butler et al are less pricey than we posters have thought.  ;D
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« Reply #178 on: February 20, 2017, 09:28:21 AM »

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HALLELUJAH! That punk won't be on our team now!!

Davis will also be leaving NOLA soon!! Cousins is a jerk. A class act like Davis will hit the road rather than deal with his antics.

Lol

Yes and yes. 

Davis better get used to the Cousins crying and pouting to the refs

Re: Woj Bomb: DeMarcus Cousins traded to Pelicans
« Reply #179 on: February 20, 2017, 09:28:35 AM »

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Bahahaha I kept trying to tell you guys Danny didn't want him. People on here would have given every asset we have for him and I kept saying WAY to much! I got pounded by people saying you had to give up everything "go all in" to get him. Let me ask you this did the Pelicans go all in, did they give up all their assets? ;)
tp for being pyschic...or is that pyscho?  ;)
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