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« on: February 10, 2017, 07:22:24 AM »

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the kid is 22years old has a low post game recently  at 56% ,guards multiple positions
picks up strong rebounds at both boards,strips players,makes some great passes and steals

he was a great pick at number 6- gordon regressing,jabari parker finished
this is just my opinion, there is no point guard in league that plays defense like smart
 
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Well, the Bucks couldn't predict what happened to Parker. I  think he was a great pick but they got unlucky.

But I agree with you, Smart is great to have. IT is right when he says you want him in a championship team, for all the dirty work he does. I've always been sure he would shine surrounded by pure scorers, rebounding, making steals and passes for them.

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I've said it before, never trade the kid.  You don't trade someone like Marcus Smart.  Kid got sugar.

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Marcus is most effective in the paint.  He just needs to stop shooting the [dang] ball from three and he would be a much better all around offensive player.  He just keeps shooting (and missing) from deep that it distracts from the other things he does well offensively.  I mean he was 0-2 again last night but 8 of 11 from two.  Marcus, quit shooting the [dang] ball from three.
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Marcus is most effective in the paint.  He just needs to stop shooting the [dang] ball from three and he would be a much better all around offensive player.  He just keeps shooting (and missing) from deep that it distracts from the other things he does well offensively.  I mean he was 0-2 again last night but 8 of 11 from two.  Marcus, quit shooting the [dang] ball from three.

I think he needs to still try and take a few to keep defenses honest. He just needs to tone down the drastic amount he takes. If he takes less from deep, and forces the issue at the rim, I (as with most here) can almost guarantee he will lose the mantra of "awful" offensive player. His playmaking and ability to set screens as a guard will more than make up for his problems shooting from deep.
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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2017, 08:10:01 AM »

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this post was just to re enforce the unique player marcus is at his age
i have felt like tommy defending marcus on all those injuries that stunted his progess getting to hoop and i still believe effected his  shooting %
marcus was shooting poorly at foul line -no longer
he fixed that
iin todays game of multiple screens marcus is unique at getting over them with his combination of lower and upper body strength,-his hand speed and length are deceptive because of his body shape
-he had two seasons more than kriss dunn and is running a playoff team
name another point guard that can take on millsap,porzingis,butler,
that will turn and block effectively bigs
i love defense, so while isaiah is making just awesome plays night after night ,i get drawn to marcus and to jaylen as he learns the game
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name another point guard that can take on millsap,porzingis,butler,
Lebron is the only one who can guard all position like Smart!
Got to love Smart. hope he is a Celtics for a long time.

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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2017, 08:21:01 AM »

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Marcus is most effective in the paint.  He just needs to stop shooting the [dang] ball from three and he would be a much better all around offensive player.  He just keeps shooting (and missing) from deep that it distracts from the other things he does well offensively.  I mean he was 0-2 again last night but 8 of 11 from two.  Marcus, quit shooting the [dang] ball from three.

I think he needs to still try and take a few to keep defenses honest. He just needs to tone down the drastic amount he takes. If he takes less from deep, and forces the issue at the rim, I (as with most here) can almost guarantee he will lose the mantra of "awful" offensive player. His playmaking and ability to set screens as a guard will more than make up for his problems shooting from deep.
Yeah.  I don't mean never shoot the ball, but he has been over 4 shots a game from three in all three of his seasons.  He needs to cut back to 1 to 1.5 a game and those should basically be wide open shots.  He does that and he will not only improve his stigma but actually help the team on both ends of the floor because he does do some things quite well offensively.  You just see those awful shooting percentages and get distracted.
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Marcus is most effective in the paint.  He just needs to stop shooting the [dang] ball from three and he would be a much better all around offensive player.  He just keeps shooting (and missing) from deep that it distracts from the other things he does well offensively.  I mean he was 0-2 again last night but 8 of 11 from two.  Marcus, quit shooting the [dang] ball from three.

I think he needs to still try and take a few to keep defenses honest. He just needs to tone down the drastic amount he takes. If he takes less from deep, and forces the issue at the rim, I (as with most here) can almost guarantee he will lose the mantra of "awful" offensive player. His playmaking and ability to set screens as a guard will more than make up for his problems shooting from deep.
Yeah.  I don't mean never shoot the ball, but he has been over 4 shots a game from three in all three of his seasons.  He needs to cut back to 1 to 1.5 a game and those should basically be wide open shots.  He does that and he will not only improve his stigma but actually help the team on both ends of the floor because he does do some things quite well offensively.  You just see those awful shooting percentages and get distracted.

Well he's been awful from 2 as well, so just not shooting 3's isn't going to fix the problem.  He's an excellent rotation player at his current shooting levels because he's so good at so many other things, but to take the next step he needs to improve both his 3 point shooting and his finishing at the rim.

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Marcus is most effective in the paint.  He just needs to stop shooting the [dang] ball from three and he would be a much better all around offensive player.  He just keeps shooting (and missing) from deep that it distracts from the other things he does well offensively.  I mean he was 0-2 again last night but 8 of 11 from two.  Marcus, quit shooting the [dang] ball from three.
But, since 12/23, smart has sit the three pointer at 38 percent. That is fine.
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this post was just to re enforce the unique player marcus is at his age
i have felt like tommy defending marcus on all those injuries that stunted his progess getting to hoop and i still believe effected his  shooting %
marcus was shooting poorly at foul line -no longer
he fixed that
iin todays game of multiple screens marcus is unique at getting over them with his combination of lower and upper body strength,-his hand speed and length are deceptive because of his body shape
-he is two years younger than kriss dunn and is running a playoff team
name another point guard that can take on millsap,porzingis,butler,
that will turn and block effectively bigs
i love defense so while isaiah is making just awesome plays night after night ,i get drawn to marcus and to jaylen as he learns the game

Smart is not 2 years younger than Kris Dunn - he's actually 12 days older (Smart born 3/6/94, Dunn born 3/18/94).  The difference is that he has had 2 crucial development years playing in the NBA while Dunn played them in college
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Marcus is most effective in the paint.  He just needs to stop shooting the [dang] ball from three and he would be a much better all around offensive player.  He just keeps shooting (and missing) from deep that it distracts from the other things he does well offensively.  I mean he was 0-2 again last night but 8 of 11 from two.  Marcus, quit shooting the [dang] ball from three.

He needs to stop shooting above the break 3s.  His corner 3 pointers are really good (right at 50% according to basketball reference), but his above the break threes are not
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Marcus is most effective in the paint.  He just needs to stop shooting the [dang] ball from three and he would be a much better all around offensive player.  He just keeps shooting (and missing) from deep that it distracts from the other things he does well offensively.  I mean he was 0-2 again last night but 8 of 11 from two.  Marcus, quit shooting the [dang] ball from three.

I think he needs to still try and take a few to keep defenses honest. He just needs to tone down the drastic amount he takes. If he takes less from deep, and forces the issue at the rim, I (as with most here) can almost guarantee he will lose the mantra of "awful" offensive player. His playmaking and ability to set screens as a guard will more than make up for his problems shooting from deep.
Yeah.  I don't mean never shoot the ball, but he has been over 4 shots a game from three in all three of his seasons.  He needs to cut back to 1 to 1.5 a game and those should basically be wide open shots.  He does that and he will not only improve his stigma but actually help the team on both ends of the floor because he does do some things quite well offensively.  You just see those awful shooting percentages and get distracted.

Well he's been awful from 2 as well, so just not shooting 3's isn't going to fix the problem.  He's an excellent rotation player at his current shooting levels because he's so good at so many other things, but to take the next step he needs to improve both his 3 point shooting and his finishing at the rim.
Moranis, glad you clarified yourself.  Bottom line is he is not a great shooter from distance and we knew that when he was drafted.  Even his 2-pt FG% is pulled up by his post-up game.  However, has to keep trying to improve his overall FG% and especially 3-pointers to be successful in today's NBA game.  He is getting there.

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The floor for Marcus is the 5th best player in that draft, we drafted him 6th so that's a victory. Embiid looks hands down the best, Wiggins is a better player but I question if he'll have the same success. Jokic was picked #41 but has developed into a great player already. The only other guy is Parker, who as you say has torn his ACL again. Who knows if he can come back strong from that. I hope so but it still impacts his long term development.

I hope the talk of Gordon, Randle, Exum etc being his equal will die away, he's a tier above them.

The fantastic thing with Smart is his versatility means there is no 'decision' between him and IT in the same wy there would be with a guy like Dunn or Lonzo Ball on the team. Smart can play alongside IT for the long term, or take over at the point if we changed direction.

No one is untouchable but I don't think you ever get a fair deal for Smart, he's the kind of guy you appreciate far more when he's with you than when you look from the outside

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[quote author=TheSundanceKid link=topic=89144.msg2243205#msg2243205 date=1486734667
No one is untouchable but I don't think you ever get a fair deal for Smart, he's the kind of guy you appreciate far more when he's with you than when you look from the outside
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And he always seems to be even more hungry when he plays in his former state, in Oklahoma, so I'd rather have a "revenge-mode Smart" every time he plays against us :D