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Where might Terry Rozier be picked in a mock 2015 redo?
« on: February 05, 2017, 01:05:36 PM »

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Here is a link to the players chosen in 2015 NBA draft.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_NBA_draft 

Keep in mind Guillermo Hernangómez was picked late in this draft and sent to the Knicks. 

I don't follow many teams or players on an ongoing basis. So, my opinion would likely be much different from an actual GM.

Judging from his play of late I would say is that he would be picked very close to where he was selected, He might move down a couple spots from 16 to 14. 

Where do you feel he would be drafted if the draft were to be redone today? 
 

Re: Where might Terry Rozier be picked in a mock 2015 redo?
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2017, 01:14:13 PM »

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Actually right about the same pick. Around 15. The GM's actually did a solid job of ranking the prospects in 2015, this in a very weak draft with 2 stars. Kristaps probably would have gone #2 in a redraft.

The big bust so far is Hezonja.

I feel Rozier could climb to top 10 in 3 years. Although if we draft a PG in 2017, Rozier is likely gone in the next trade.

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whats the deal with hezonja? I thought he had a decent rookie year.  Is he just not able to break into the rotation because of bad defense?

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If Rozier were in a situation where he was getting Mudiay's minutes for the past 2 years, would we be ranking him over Mudiay?
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whats the deal with hezonja? I thought he had a decent rookie year.  Is he just not able to break into the rotation because of bad defense?

Hezonja's D hasn't been good, but I think the problem is his quickness. He can jump and run the floor well, but he lacks lateral quickness, which is an issue in getting to the rim and defending quicker players. I think his best bet is to put on some size and play the 3, which he can easily do with his 6-8 size. He does have a lot of talent offensively and has a really sweet stroke.

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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2017, 02:10:57 PM »

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Rozier has been terrible.  There is no way he goes in the same range.  I think every single person drafted ahead of him is still drafted ahead of him, and a number of players drafted after him would go higher than him (easily Dekker, RHJ, Nance, Hernangomez, Richardson, Holmes, Powell and guys like Portis, Anderson, Jones, Martin, McCullough, Grant, Looney are all possible as well)
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Terrible? I wouldn't say he's been great, but terrible?
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Terrible? I wouldn't say he's been great, but terrible?
Yeah terrible.  He is shooting as bad as Smart, but is a below average defender so he can't make it up on the other end of the court. 
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whats the deal with hezonja? I thought he had a decent rookie year.  Is he just not able to break into the rotation because of bad defense?

Hezonja's D hasn't been good, but I think the problem is his quickness. He can jump and run the floor well, but he lacks lateral quickness, which is an issue in getting to the rim and defending quicker players. I think his best bet is to put on some size and play the 3, which he can easily do with his 6-8 size. He does have a lot of talent offensively and has a really sweet stroke.
Hezonja is worse than Rozier on defense and getting less minutes and shooting at a lower percentages than Terry.

If Terry has been terrible than Hezonja has been truly awful.

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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2017, 02:30:09 PM »

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whats the deal with hezonja? I thought he had a decent rookie year.  Is he just not able to break into the rotation because of bad defense?

Hezonja's D hasn't been good, but I think the problem is his quickness. He can jump and run the floor well, but he lacks lateral quickness, which is an issue in getting to the rim and defending quicker players. I think his best bet is to put on some size and play the 3, which he can easily do with his 6-8 size. He does have a lot of talent offensively and has a really sweet stroke.
Hezonja is worse than Rozier on defense and getting less minutes and shooting at a lower percentages than Terry.

If Terry has been terrible than Hezonja has been truly awful.
Yeah I'm not sure what is going on there because Mario actually showed pretty good potential as a rookie, but has been a lot worse this year.  I still think in a redraft he goes ahead of Rozier because he has far more top end potential, which is why he went as high as he did to begin with.
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whats the deal with hezonja? I thought he had a decent rookie year.  Is he just not able to break into the rotation because of bad defense?

Hezonja's D hasn't been good, but I think the problem is his quickness. He can jump and run the floor well, but he lacks lateral quickness, which is an issue in getting to the rim and defending quicker players. I think his best bet is to put on some size and play the 3, which he can easily do with his 6-8 size. He does have a lot of talent offensively and has a really sweet stroke.
Hezonja is worse than Rozier on defense and getting less minutes and shooting at a lower percentages than Terry.

If Terry has been terrible than Hezonja has been truly awful.
Yeah I'm not sure what is going on there because Mario actually showed pretty good potential as a rookie, but has been a lot worse this year.  I still think in a redraft he goes ahead of Rozier because he has far more top end potential, which is why he went as high as he did to begin with.
Wait.. Wut?! You blast Rozier's ranking coz of his performance, but you still would draft Hezonja higher? Wow, this an all time low.

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I was surprised to see how low his fg% is.  That is certainly something worth considering.  I think he has the potential to correct that though.  He doesn't have a terrible shot selection and he's got a good looking shot.  He *looks* like a much better than 38% fg shooter. 

He does take care of the ball very well for a point guard, especially a young one, averaging only 1.1 to per 36 which is good for a 3:1 ast:to ratio.

His defense has always struck me as average for a point guard with the potential to improve.  Maybe I'm wrong there though as I have nothing to base that on but the eyeball test.  Point guards in general aren't very good at defense in the NBA today.
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Rozier has been terrible.  There is no way he goes in the same range.  I think every single person drafted ahead of him is still drafted ahead of him, and a number of players drafted after him would go higher than him (easily Dekker, RHJ, Nance, Hernangomez, Richardson, Holmes, Powell and guys like Portis, Anderson, Jones, Martin, McCullough, Grant, Looney are all possible as well)

Moranis, you're sounding a lot like LB.

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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2017, 03:14:28 PM »

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whats the deal with hezonja? I thought he had a decent rookie year.  Is he just not able to break into the rotation because of bad defense?

Hezonja's D hasn't been good, but I think the problem is his quickness. He can jump and run the floor well, but he lacks lateral quickness, which is an issue in getting to the rim and defending quicker players. I think his best bet is to put on some size and play the 3, which he can easily do with his 6-8 size. He does have a lot of talent offensively and has a really sweet stroke.
Hezonja is worse than Rozier on defense and getting less minutes and shooting at a lower percentages than Terry.

If Terry has been terrible than Hezonja has been truly awful.
Yeah I'm not sure what is going on there because Mario actually showed pretty good potential as a rookie, but has been a lot worse this year.  I still think in a redraft he goes ahead of Rozier because he has far more top end potential, which is why he went as high as he did to begin with.
Wait.. Wut?! You blast Rozier's ranking coz of his performance, but you still would draft Hezonja higher? Wow, this an all time low.
Hezonja was at least respectable as a rookie with by far the best season among Rozier and him of the two (that being his rookie season).  That at least shows that Hezonja can compete at the NBA level at a respectable level.  Rozier hasn't shown that at all.  I obviously don't follow the Magic, so I have no idea if Hezonja is playing hurt, if he is just worn down from all of the summer playing, or if his rookie year was a fluke and this season is more in line with his ability.  But I feel pretty comfortable stating that in a redraft Hezonja would still go higher than Rozier.  He wouldn't go anywhere near 5, just ahead of Rozier.
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whats the deal with hezonja? I thought he had a decent rookie year.  Is he just not able to break into the rotation because of bad defense?

Hezonja's D hasn't been good, but I think the problem is his quickness. He can jump and run the floor well, but he lacks lateral quickness, which is an issue in getting to the rim and defending quicker players. I think his best bet is to put on some size and play the 3, which he can easily do with his 6-8 size. He does have a lot of talent offensively and has a really sweet stroke.
Hezonja is worse than Rozier on defense and getting less minutes and shooting at a lower percentages than Terry.

If Terry has been terrible than Hezonja has been truly awful.
Yeah I'm not sure what is going on there because Mario actually showed pretty good potential as a rookie, but has been a lot worse this year.  I still think in a redraft he goes ahead of Rozier because he has far more top end potential, which is why he went as high as he did to begin with.
Wait.. Wut?! You blast Rozier's ranking coz of his performance, but you still would draft Hezonja higher? Wow, this an all time low.
Hezonja had more potential on draft night and he has more potential now. Terry is a better player and has a decent amount of potential, but Hezonja has enough upside to outweigh Terry Roziers current advantage in performance.

Hezonja WCS and Okafor all fall pretty far in a redraft, but I think all of them could easily still go before Rozier.