advantage of being brought along by celtics

[rollie mass]

the way rozier and jaylen are being brought along at slower pace than marcus and many of his draft class may have the advantage of  less injuries
coming to the nba with its height ,speed and jumping ability so  these kids at 20 are pushing their bodies into unknown territory
there was randle,gordon,exum,noel,lavine,parker,smart,vonleh all suffering horrible injuries early in rookie season
most of these draftees dominated in college and had top physical skills but were thrown into playing by teams with losing records or the weight of their draft position

rozier got to play d league and adjust then was forced into playing during the playoffs-
-brown is being brought along being mixed with starters but his playing time has been progressive and mentored
i worry that jaylen is going to get hurt with his high flying dunks like the other day against detroit
that when you go full speed ,maximum height and can't bully your opponent that you have to come down safely
brad can pick his spots and put rozier and jaylen in a position to succeed

[Surferdad]

A big advantage is being able to play with vets like Horford, IT, Bradley, Amir, etc and learn the right way, how to be a pro, benefit from their experience.  The young cores in Minny, Philly and maybe LAL may have more talent but will not progress without this kind of mentoring.

[RAAAAAAAANDY]

Ahhh yes, the old sports cliches are back.

Rozier and Brown aren't playing big minutes because they aren't good.

[rollie mass]

Ahhh yes, the old sports cliches are back.

Rozier and Brown aren't playing big minutes because they aren't good.

but they will be--and they will have celtic values

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Ahhh yes, the old sports cliches are back.

Rozier and Brown aren't playing big minutes because they aren't good.

I'm not sure how you define "good," but to me, it's inaccurate to say "they aren't good." They're not high-impact players (at this point, anyway), but you seem to be implying that they're barely good enough to see any game action, if that, and I think that's an inaccurate assessment. They clearly have some talent.

[RAAAAAAAANDY]

Ahhh yes, the old sports cliches are back.

Rozier and Brown aren't playing big minutes because they aren't good.

I'm not sure how you define "good," but to me, it's inaccurate to say "they aren't good." They're not high-impact players (at this point, anyway), but you seem to be implying that they're barely good enough to see any game action, if that, and I think that's an inaccurate assessment. They clearly have some talent.

Rookies with a few exceptions aren't good. Rozier hasn't shown anything that suggests he's good.

They may turn into good players some day, but right now they are poor players on a good team. That's why they aren't playing.

[RAAAAAAAANDY]

Ahhh yes, the old sports cliches are back.

Rozier and Brown aren't playing big minutes because they aren't good.

but they will be--and they will have celtic values

Celtics values lol? Riiiight

[CelticPride2016]

That was another solid Rollie post. He is watching games and studying players from the perspective of an ex-player who played under Rollie Massimino. We are extremely lucky he is on this board.

Of course there are Celtics' values, RAAAAAAAANDY. McHale mentioned it when he did the game. It's always about the next guy. It's always about making teammates better. This isn't golf or tennis where it's on one person to win or lose.

It takes five guys at all times, not two or three stars plus filler.

Brad said in an interview that we are going nowhere without Jaylen Brown. We can say that about a lot of the team, but he meant if we want to be special. Stevens is gutting it out with Brown like Francona did with Pedroia. You can't teach talent.

Rozier is so bad that he won us a game? What games is this person watching? I am seeing much improvement in Jaylen's game including on defense. His solid improvement has taken away minutes from Gerald Green. Crowder has become amazing making it more difficult to play Brown. The Bradley injury has been a blessing in disguise, as it opened up minutes at shooting guard.

Brown looks like a shooting guard to me, maybe small forward if he gets stronger.

Crowder is more of a small forward to power forward despite being shorter. If the opposition goes small, we could do a lot worse that having Brown and Crowder play together.

James Young is the only scrub on this team. Mickey is also wading into dangerous waters where Danny might just give up on him. I think Young made it because of Celtics values. RJ was older and had one less year of service time with the C's. The Celtics plucked out James Young at age 18 or 19. He was literally a kid teenager. They did all they could for him from a moral standpoint.

Mickey looks undersized, a tweener. He seems to have better skills than Young and might eventually make the NBA, but it doesn't seem like it will happen. Young doesn't seem to think fast enough. Even with J. Brown having his rookie moments, Jaylen has the speed to make up for not having defense down pat like others. I don't know about Jackson. And Danny is really adding on talent with the stash maneuver. Amir, Zeller, and Jerebko have contracts running out. The team will definitely change, so I try to appreciate each year in itself.

The off-seasons are ending up as interesting as the actual playing seasons.

Rozier's problem is a basic number crunch. We have Isaiah, Avery and Smart clearly above him. When you have three solid guards with one in Smart who can play pg, there's just not much room for Rozier. But I am impressed with him. Young needed to make advances like Terry did.

If Smart had bombed at point guard, Rozier would have gotten a much better chance at a rotation job.

He is in the Zeller tier of next man up. If everyone is healthy, there is no need for those players. It's why Gerald is currently collecting splinters in his butt.

[chilidawg]

The good news is that both Brown and Rozier are progressing as the season goes.  I think Brad's comment about going nowhere without Brown is in part true for both.  They both have elite athleticism, if their BB skills continue to evolve we could be a very good team come playoff time.

[rollie mass]

those losers Young and the LA bench were taunting the celtics as smart watched from the bench

he came into the game  with a mission stop those guys-shut them down with his steals and upped the celtics defensive intensity-5 steals answered those idiot la la youngsters
look at their record  and off court behavior -
we get horford ,they get mozogov
walton their coach wants them to become like the celtics,he was the focus of a long article about his joy of watching the celts

[rollie mass]

the carnival season of kobe's retirement just covered up the LA tank
and re enforced entitled behavior that later tore the team apart for a period with d angelo exposing young on social media-dumb and dumber

philly has done a masterfull job of tanking and brett brown is a superb coach having to put up with this  and they may have turned the corner big time with embid now
but look at the damage to noel and okafor

that memory of LA's Young after hitting a three and the LA bench and then coming in off bench and smarts response of ripping the ball from young and mozagov is worth a thousand words

[Darío SpanishFan]

Ahhh yes, the old sports cliches are back.

Rozier and Brown aren't playing big minutes because they aren't good.

You are assuming that "good" rookies would play the same minutes in Boston than in bottom teams such as Philadelphia or LAL, and this is not true. Does anyone think that Ingram would play 30+ minutes were he playing for us?

Besides, what is being "good"? You are talking about clichés and then use the term "good" 

[RockinRyA]

Ahhh yes, the old sports cliches are back.

Rozier and Brown aren't playing big minutes because they aren't good.

I'm not sure how you define "good," but to me, it's inaccurate to say "they aren't good." They're not high-impact players (at this point, anyway), but you seem to be implying that they're barely good enough to see any game action, if that, and I think that's an inaccurate assessment. They clearly have some talent.

Rookies with a few exceptions aren't good. Rozier hasn't shown anything that suggests he's good.

They may turn into good players some day, but right now they are poor players on a good team. That's why they aren't playing.

Go back to Philly. No one on your team save for Embiid would be receiving minutes on the Celtics right now as much as Brown.

[Celtics4ever]

The big advantage is learning from our veterans on the team and within the organization.   Other teams try to emulate it and some do to some degree but I think we are the best at it.

[RAAAAAAAANDY]

That was another solid Rollie post. He is watching games and studying players from the perspective of an ex-player who played under Rollie Massimino. We are extremely lucky he is on this board.

Of course there are Celtics' values, RAAAAAAAANDY. McHale mentioned it when he did the game. It's always about the next guy. It's always about making teammates better. This isn't golf or tennis where it's on one person to win or lose.

It takes five guys at all times, not two or three stars plus filler.

Brad said in an interview that we are going nowhere without Jaylen Brown. We can say that about a lot of the team, but he meant if we want to be special. Stevens is gutting it out with Brown like Francona did with Pedroia. You can't teach talent.

Rozier is so bad that he won us a game? What games is this person watching? I am seeing much improvement in Jaylen's game including on defense. His solid improvement has taken away minutes from Gerald Green. Crowder has become amazing making it more difficult to play Brown. The Bradley injury has been a blessing in disguise, as it opened up minutes at shooting guard.

Brown looks like a shooting guard to me, maybe small forward if he gets stronger.

Crowder is more of a small forward to power forward despite being shorter. If the opposition goes small, we could do a lot worse that having Brown and Crowder play together.

James Young is the only scrub on this team. Mickey is also wading into dangerous waters where Danny might just give up on him. I think Young made it because of Celtics values. RJ was older and had one less year of service time with the C's. The Celtics plucked out James Young at age 18 or 19. He was literally a kid teenager. They did all they could for him from a moral standpoint.

Mickey looks undersized, a tweener. He seems to have better skills than Young and might eventually make the NBA, but it doesn't seem like it will happen. Young doesn't seem to think fast enough. Even with J. Brown having his rookie moments, Jaylen has the speed to make up for not having defense down pat like others. I don't know about Jackson. And Danny is really adding on talent with the stash maneuver. Amir, Zeller, and Jerebko have contracts running out. The team will definitely change, so I try to appreciate each year in itself.

The off-seasons are ending up as interesting as the actual playing seasons.

Rozier's problem is a basic number crunch. We have Isaiah, Avery and Smart clearly above him. When you have three solid guards with one in Smart who can play pg, there's just not much room for Rozier. But I am impressed with him. Young needed to make advances like Terry did.

If Smart had bombed at point guard, Rozier would have gotten a much better chance at a rotation job.

He is in the Zeller tier of next man up. If everyone is healthy, there is no need for those players. It's why Gerald is currently collecting splinters in his butt.

 

Every team would parrot that sports cliche.