What should we give up for Nikola Vucevic?

[Chef Parish]

He's on a  four-year, $53 million rookie contract.

[GreenEnvy]

I believe he's making $11.75M this season ($12.25M & $12.75M the following two).

I think he's a good player. He'd be a nice addition while keeping both the Brooklyn picks. I'm not giving Brown or Smart up obviously. No to Crowder or Bradley also.

Would Zeller, Rozier (whom I really like), and a future first (LAC or MEM?) be enough? Too much?

[Big333223]

I like Vucevic. Offensively, he'd be a perfect fit. Defensively he leaves something to be desired but isn't as bad as his reputation. His rebounding and size, I think, would make up for whatever defensive deficiencies he has. He's also on a terrific contract. But I'm not giving up any core pieces to get him. He's just not a superstar or even a star.

I do think, if he were to come over and things broke right, he could push the C's to legit contender status.

[CelticGuardian]

I'd do Amir Johnson and two of 2019 grizzlies 1st, 2019 Clippers 1st, or 2018 C's 1st rounders

[wdleehi]

Johnson, Rozier, one non-Net pick (or the first pick the Celtics have that falls outside the top 10) and a plethora of 2nd round draft picks. 


I would also have on the table the choice of young players that do not get minutes for the Celtics or are stashed away overseas. 

[nickagneta]

Nothing...don't want a player that kills our cap flexibility next year while doing nothing for us defensively.

[Diggles]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jr3w6u2

How about this.....   If we could keep our BK picks... We could seriously be the deepest team...

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jr3w6u2

Start Brown at the 2......   Let Bradley get 6th man of the year.   



IT
Brown
Melo
Al
Vucevic

Bench of

Smart, Terry, Bradley, Jae, KO and Hernangomez.....   

Ad the first round pick next year.     Then decide between IT and Bradly in 2019.... 

[mef730]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jr3w6u2

How about this.....   If we could keep our BK picks... We could seriously be the deepest team...

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jr3w6u2

Start Brown at the 2......   Let Bradley get 6th man of the year.   



IT
Brown
Melo
Al
Vucevic

Bench of

Smart, Terry, Bradley, Jae, KO and Hernangomez.....   

Ad the first round pick next year.     Then decide between IT and Bradly in 2019....

Neither team does that trade.

Mike

[CelticGuardian]

I think the Magic's leverage seems pretty weak as they will be needing to resign Ibaka and have committed a lot of dough to Biyombo, and don't forget Aaron Gordon needs to play the 4.

Doing a deal with the C's for Amir's expiring contract will give them cap space, picks to secure some of the future they traded away to OKC, and AG's growth will not be stunted by playing out of position..

[RAAAAAAAANDY]

Nothing...don't want a player that kills our cap flexibility next year while doing nothing for us defensively.

Ding Ding Ding!!!

Quoted for truth.

[celtics2030]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jr3w6u2

How about this.....   If we could keep our BK picks... We could seriously be the deepest team...

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jr3w6u2

Start Brown at the 2......   Let Bradley get 6th man of the year.   



IT
Brown
Melo
Al
Vucevic

Bench of

Smart, Terry, Bradley, Jae, KO and Hernangomez.....   

Ad the first round pick next year.     Then decide between IT and Bradly in 2019....

So you offer them 5 trash players lol

amazing

[crimson_stallion]

Nothing...don't want a player that kills our cap flexibility next year while doing nothing for us defensively.

Seriously...?

I swear "cap flexibility" is like the 2017 buzzword around here.

Vucevic is making $11m a year over the next three years - that's less then Tristan Thompson is making.  It's less then Evan Turner is making.  It's less then Amir Johnson is making.  it's barely more then what Tyler Zeller is making. 

That's for a 26 year old seven footer who has averaged 17.5 points, 10 rebounds and 2.5 assists over the past 3 seasons.

But you don't want to trade for him because you want "cap flexibility".  Do tell, what exactly do you intend to DO with that "cap flexibility"?  Sign a max free agent? 

What if the max free agents sign elsewhere?  What if they return to their old teams, who can offer them more money then us?

I guess we're screwed then huh?  We just turned down a trade for an excellent starting big man for a free agent signing that never happened.  Bummer.

Sorry, just recounting what has happened in Celtics land every single season (bar last season) for the past decade.

[Chris22]

Nothing...don't want a player that kills our cap flexibility next year while doing nothing for us defensively.

Bingo.

[crimson_stallion]

I believe he's making $11.75M this season ($12.25M & $12.75M the following two).

I think he's a good player. He'd be a nice addition while keeping both the Brooklyn picks. I'm not giving Brown or Smart up obviously. No to Crowder or Bradley also.

Would Zeller, Rozier (whom I really like), and a future first (LAC or MEM?) be enough? Too much?

I would do Zeller + Smart or Rozier + Memphis 1st for Vucevic. 

Don't mind which of Smart / Rozier we included.  I'd rather trade Smart because I think Rozier has more upside, but I Smart is obviously more NBA ready now so I would understand either move so long as we kept one of the two.

[byennie]

Nothing...don't want a player that kills our cap flexibility next year while doing nothing for us defensively.

Yeah, that's crazy. He's on an excellent contract, and we'd be at $74M out of a $102M cap with him signed and Zeller gone, before new rookie deals. The odds of a max free agent both wanting to come here, and us not able to move another contract if necessary are about zero. Meanwhile we don't get a pretty good player. I mean who is coming, really? Blake Griffin? Kevin Durant opting out?