If that is true then what is everyone's best low ball offer that is also realistic?
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zxgcwds
Amir, Zeller, Rozier, 2017 Minnesotta Second, 2018 Brooklyn First, 2019 Memphis protected 1st
for
Carmelo Anthony
I think even the lowest of lowball offers would require the 2018 Brooklyn Pick
Brooklyn is really bad and has no future. If you have to give that pick up to get Melo then I think I'll pass.
This trade makes sense. NY gets picks and expiring contracts. The Celtics get Melo. New York gives up the best player, we give up the best, long term asset, the 2018 Brooklyn pick.
This really does mean that Ainge would need a follow up trade for a back up center that can rebound. Horford, Melo, KO, Jerebko might be the worst rebounding front court in the league. A trade for Noel would make the most sense since we could resign him in the offseason using his bird rights and allowing us to go over the cap.
Ya I don't see how New York trades Carmelo Anthony without one of the Brooklyn picks and of the 2, I'd want to keep the 2017 pick swap since it can be huge for filling in whatever gap that a Melo trade would leave us.
Have to move on from Bradley or Smart pick Fultz/Ball/Smith Jr
Have to move on from Jaylen or Crowder pick Josh Jackson/ Tatum/ Jonathan Isaac
Not to downplay what a Deandre Ayton, Michael Porter Jr., or Mohamed Bamba could mean to this team but if we add Melo, the roster is basically set. We'd still have Jaylen and the 2017 Brooklyn pick to develop and keep things looking bright for the future but we'd no longer need to say "just wait until those Brooklyn picks come through, you'll see!"
Alot of the guys could start performing better just because they know that their spot is secure and won't be taken by some upstart kid 2 years down the road.
It's all about what the market value is of 'Melo.
Let's be blunt. The market for aging 32 1/2 year old declining scorers who don't play defense isn't all that high. Melo's TS% is .540 which would currently rank him NINTH on the Cs roster. Most every major stat of his is down the last couple of years. Everything points to a continued decline. He's owed something like $55m the next two years after this one so in two years someone may be paying him $28m to be a #3 or #4 scorer.
At this point Melo's name is currently better than his game. Just for a reality check, Jae Crowder has more win shares than 'Melo right now and Crowder is 4x cheaper, younger and signed long-term. Give up a Brooklyn pick? I'd have to think long and hard about giving up Crowder for 'Melo straight up (yeah, I know the salaries don't work) and Jae ain't worth a Brooklyn pick.
The Knicks are slumping, 11th in the East and are sinking fast. This was a team that was 14-10 and have gone 7-18 since. Their beginning March schedule will be tough for an aging player/team with 10 out of 13 on the road. In short they're probably going to get a bit desperate to move 'Melo this year because by the next trade deadline he may actually have negative value and they need to acquire assets to build around Porzingis.
To sum all of this up, it's pretty clear that some people here overvalue 'Melo at this stage. Most GMs won't.
You have a direct line tapped into "most GM's" offices?
You want to talk about the market? The market is what dictated that 'Melo was worth his massive extension to begin with. Clearly the New York front office felt that he was worth his contract and I don't think they gave it to him under the illusion that he'd suddenly stop aging.
"Most GM's" wont even have a crack at Melo because the market dictated that he was worth a no trade clause giving him control over where he ends up.
If your argument against Melo is based around the fact that he wasn't able to lift an otherwise putrid Knicks team, I'd say that's the same type of reasoning that had people chirping year after year to trade Pierce. Just because Melo with a sophomore year Kristaps Porzingis is not enough to raise a team to a contender, does not make him a bad player.
Who knows what Steph Curry would look like if he was on the Knicks, James Harden was a maligned chucker until he gets 2 above average players and a great system and now he's second in MVP voting. None of today's stars try to go at it alone, and with how Melo is treated by the fans and media you can see why.
To sum all of this up, it's pretty clear that some people here undervalue 'Melo at this stage. I wont pretend to speak for most GMs though because well, that's just like, my opinion, man.
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