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Re: My hopes for Marcus Smart
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2017, 09:08:40 AM »

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My hope for Smart is that he gets flipped for some reasonable assets.

He's the most likely candidate to be made irrelevant by the upcoming draft and you never want to get into the 76'ers position of having too many guys who play the same position. 

Smart and a future first for some rotation big like Nurkic would be a great return...  If you can get a pick in return in the deal, even better.

Defensive wings who hustle and have no offense are available late in every draft, and more importantly point guards who aren't a threat to score 30 points are completely irrelevant in today's NBA. 

 

Oh, to sum it up. The Spurs have a PG who isn't a threat to score 30 points anymore and seems to be perfectly fine with the second best record in the league.

Portland has a PG who is able to score 30 points almost evey night if he wants, but are fighting for the merely 8 seed in the wes. Teams need balance, there are a lot of ways a player can contribute to winning other than scoring.
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Re: My hopes for Marcus Smart
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2017, 09:11:15 AM »

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My hope for Smart is that he gets flipped for some reasonable assets.

He's the most likely candidate to be made irrelevant by the upcoming draft and you never want to get into the 76'ers position of having too many guys who play the same position. 

Smart and a future first for some rotation big like Nurkic would be a great return...  If you can get a pick in return in the deal, even better.

Defensive wings who hustle and have no offense are available late in every draft, and more importantly point guards who aren't a threat to score 30 points are completely irrelevant in today's NBA. 

 

Smart AND a future first for Nurkic ?

Smart is the better player in the deal and you want to give a first to bring a guy that Denver is desperate to trade ? And can't start on a Denver team that is below .500

Sometimes I get shocked with the way some people here think. Smart is my favorite Celtic and he is a true winner. A guy who doesn't care about stats or anything besides winninge. I love his attitude and I wouldn't trade him for 90% of the players in the NBA and there are people who would trade him for a bottle of water if they could.

I'm so happy Danny Ainge is our GM and not some of the fans who post here.

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Re: My hopes for Marcus Smart
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2017, 09:43:37 AM »

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The object of the game is for your team to score more than the other team.

Put another way, the object of the game is to prevent the other team from scoring as much as your own team.

Based on this, an elite defender like Smart has as much value as a 30ppg scorer.

Re: My hopes for Marcus Smart
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2017, 09:45:30 AM »

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The object of the game is for your team to score more than the other team.

Put another way, the object of the game is to prevent the other team from scoring as much as your own team.

Based on this, an elite defender like Smart has as much value as a 30ppg scorer.

You are exactly right. He influences more game endings with rebounds, steals, deflections, box-outs, blocks of a player of any size. He is just incredible in my eyes.


Re: My hopes for Marcus Smart
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2017, 10:00:56 AM »

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My hope for Smart is that he gets flipped for some reasonable assets.

He's the most likely candidate to be made irrelevant by the upcoming draft and you never want to get into the 76'ers position of having too many guys who play the same position. 

Smart and a future first for some rotation big like Nurkic would be a great return...  If you can get a pick in return in the deal, even better.

Defensive wings who hustle and have no offense are available late in every draft, and more importantly point guards who aren't a threat to score 30 points are completely irrelevant in today's NBA. 

 

Smart AND a future first for Nurkic ?

Smart is the better player in the deal and you want to give a first to bring a guy that Denver is desperate to trade ? And can't start on a Denver team that is below .500

Sometimes I get shocked with the way some people here think. Smart is my favorite Celtic and he is a true winner. A guy who doesn't care about stats or anything besides winninge. I love his attitude and I wouldn't trade him for 90% of the players in the NBA and there are people who would trade him for a bottle of water if they could.

I'm so happy Danny Ainge is our GM and not some of the fans who post here.

fans here seem to only use advance stats and numbers to dictate who they want to be a fan of and who they consider to be a good player. which is why you see all these ridiculous trade scenarios.

the one stat that gets lost on these people is the only one that really matters and that's the W/L stat. unfortunately; like I mentioned previously a lot of what marcus offers doesn't translate to the individual stats. most of what he does leads to another player getting the credit.

i'm not saying these people are exactly wrong either because imo where he was drafted you should be looking to get a player that will eventually be an all star or "All" something.

and that's my problem with Smart, the only type of player I would trade him for is an elite player that could play both sides of the ball well... and that's just not going to happen because of the numbers.

Re: My hopes for Marcus Smart
« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2017, 10:03:35 AM »

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I've been telling myself for years that Smart will be a star one day, he just has to improve on offense. But I've finally accepted that he probably won't average more than 15 PPG in his career, he just isn't a scorer. Smart had definitely has his share of shamefully bad offensive performances through out his career, yet he is still my favorite Celtic (by far). Even though I've accepted that Smart won't be a star, I can't stand the idea of Smart playing on a different team.

My hopes for Smart is that he stays with the Celtics his whole career and becomes an all time great role player for us. What do you guys think?

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Re: My hopes for Marcus Smart
« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2017, 10:06:53 AM »

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Just throwing these players out there without looking at numbers I would say...

Patrick Beverly
Iman Shumpert
Avery Bradley

None of these guys can defend Milsap, Porzingis, or Greek Freak in the post.  None.

Re: My hopes for Marcus Smart
« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2017, 10:15:38 AM »

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Just throwing these players out there without looking at numbers I would say...

Patrick Beverly
Iman Shumpert
Avery Bradley

None of these guys can defend Milsap, Porzingis, or Greek Freak in the post.  None.

I didn't say they could but the poster asked for 3 similar type players to Smart. I think Shumpert could do as well as Smart playing defense against the 3 you mentioned. Smart is my favorite player so don't act as if I am bashing him because I am not.

Re: My hopes for Marcus Smart
« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2017, 10:27:43 AM »

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Let me end the thread the way I do many of them.  The anti Marcus smart is James harden.  Almost literally.  Harden is an mvp candidate year after year while smart is a role player.  Offense is much more important than individual defense.  Period, point blank, end of story.

Re: My hopes for Marcus Smart
« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2017, 10:44:58 AM »

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My hope for Smart is that he gets flipped for some reasonable assets.

He's the most likely candidate to be made irrelevant by the upcoming draft and you never want to get into the 76'ers position of having too many guys who play the same position. 

Smart and a future first for some rotation big like Nurkic would be a great return...  If you can get a pick in return in the deal, even better.

Defensive wings who hustle and have no offense are available late in every draft, and more importantly point guards who aren't a threat to score 30 points are completely irrelevant in today's NBA. 

 

Smart AND a future first for Nurkic ?

Smart is the better player in the deal and you want to give a first to bring a guy that Denver is desperate to trade ? And can't start on a Denver team that is below .500

Sometimes I get shocked with the way some people here think. Smart is my favorite Celtic and he is a true winner. A guy who doesn't care about stats or anything besides winninge. I love his attitude and I wouldn't trade him for 90% of the players in the NBA and there are people who would trade him for a bottle of water if they could.

I'm so happy Danny Ainge is our GM and not some of the fans who post here.

fans here seem to only use advance stats and numbers to dictate who they want to be a fan of and who they consider to be a good player. which is why you see all these ridiculous trade scenarios.

the one stat that gets lost on these people is the only one that really matters and that's the W/L stat. unfortunately; like I mentioned previously a lot of what marcus offers doesn't translate to the individual stats. most of what he does leads to another player getting the credit.

i'm not saying these people are exactly wrong either because imo where he was drafted you should be looking to get a player that will eventually be an all star or "All" something.

and that's my problem with Smart, the only type of player I would trade him for is an elite player that could play both sides of the ball well... and that's just not going to happen because of the numbers.
Pretty sure Smart will make multiple All-Defense teams before it is all done. He will probably be in the running for future DPOY awards as well. Isnt that an All something?

Re: My hopes for Marcus Smart
« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2017, 10:56:35 AM »

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Re: My hopes for Marcus Smart
« Reply #26 on: January 29, 2017, 11:06:34 AM »

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His offense will eprobably be the thing that holds him back from being an all star type player. That doesn't mean he can't be a good player. He's made improvementsome in ball handling and running the offense this year. His defense is good and his versatility is very useful. He has that "it" factor when it comes to making plays.

Unfortunately his 3 pts shot and finishing around the rim are a weakness. His FT is hovering around 80% though so that has improved. What I don't get is why they don't use him in the post more. I feel like he's an instant mismatch for most PGs down there. Kidd used to have a field day doing that to smaller gaurds.

Re: My hopes for Marcus Smart
« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2017, 11:13:07 AM »

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Just throwing these players out there without looking at numbers I would say...

Patrick Beverly
Iman Shumpert
Avery Bradley

None of these guys can defend Milsap, Porzingis, or Greek Freak in the post.  None.

I didn't say they could but the poster asked for 3 similar type players to Smart. I think Shumpert could do as well as Smart playing defense against the 3 you mentioned. Smart is my favorite player so don't act as if I am bashing him because I am not.

I am not bashing but saying that none of those players are similar to Smart because they cannot do what he does

Re: My hopes for Marcus Smart
« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2017, 02:05:26 PM »

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My hope for Smart is that he gets flipped for some reasonable assets.

He's the most likely candidate to be made irrelevant by the upcoming draft and you never want to get into the 76'ers position of having too many guys who play the same position. 

Smart and a future first for some rotation big like Nurkic would be a great return...  If you can get a pick in return in the deal, even better.

Defensive wings who hustle and have no offense are available late in every draft, and more importantly point guards who aren't a threat to score 30 points are completely irrelevant in today's NBA. 

 

Smart AND a future first for Nurkic ?

Smart is the better player in the deal and you want to give a first to bring a guy that Denver is desperate to trade ? And can't start on a Denver team that is below .500

Sometimes I get shocked with the way some people here think. Smart is my favorite Celtic and he is a true winner. A guy who doesn't care about stats or anything besides winninge. I love his attitude and I wouldn't trade him for 90% of the players in the NBA and there are people who would trade him for a bottle of water if they could.

I'm so happy Danny Ainge is our GM and not some of the fans who post here.
TP, Smart and a 1st for Nurkic is crazy talk
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Re: My hopes for Marcus Smart
« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2017, 02:12:53 PM »

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My hope for Smart is that he gets flipped for some reasonable assets.

He's the most likely candidate to be made irrelevant by the upcoming draft and you never want to get into the 76'ers position of having too many guys who play the same position. 

Smart and a future first for some rotation big like Nurkic would be a great return...  If you can get a pick in return in the deal, even better.

Defensive wings who hustle and have no offense are available late in every draft, and more importantly point guards who aren't a threat to score 30 points are completely irrelevant in today's NBA. 

 

Smart AND a future first for Nurkic ?



Smart is the better player in the deal and you want to give a first to bring a guy that Denver is desperate to trade ? And can't start on a Denver team that is below .500

Sometimes I get shocked with the way some people here think. Smart is my favorite Celtic and he is a true winner. A guy who doesn't care about stats or anything besides winninge. I love his attitude and I wouldn't trade him for 90% of the players in the NBA and there are people who would trade him for a bottle of water if they could.

I'm so happy Danny Ainge is our GM and not some of the fans who post here.
TP, Smart and a 1st for Nurkic is crazy talk

Smart for WHO ?  Wow......somebody hit their head and needs to see a doctor .