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Kyle Korver
« on: January 14, 2017, 02:42:56 PM »

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One game in Korver looks effective.

Re: Kyle Korver
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2017, 02:44:31 PM »

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One game in Korver looks effective.

All he has to do is stand on the perimeter and hit catch-and-shoot 3s. He'll be just fine in Cleveland.

Re: Kyle Korver
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2017, 02:47:44 PM »

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One game in Korver looks effective.
This was actually his 3rd game as a Cav. First two games he only scored 2 pts in each game


BUT the 18 is prly closer to his actual longterm impact

Re: Kyle Korver
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2017, 02:57:29 PM »

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I would consider this his first proper game after having a shoot around learning some plays and having a rest

Re: Kyle Korver
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2017, 02:57:30 PM »

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One game in Korver looks effective.
This was actually his 3rd game as a Cav. First two games he only scored 2 pts in each game


BUT the 18 is prly closer to his actual longterm impact

Do people realize that korvers career high is 14.5 pts a game 10 years ago? He hasn't even averaged double figures in several years. He is 35 a year younger than James jones. Why is everyone acting like he is a huge acquisition?  Getting frye was a lot more important to them and nobody cared when they got him.

Re: Kyle Korver
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2017, 02:58:20 PM »

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Korver is a prettier Mike Miller

Re: Kyle Korver
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2017, 03:22:00 PM »

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One game in Korver looks effective.
This was actually his 3rd game as a Cav. First two games he only scored 2 pts in each game


BUT the 18 is prly closer to his actual longterm impact

Do people realize that korvers career high is 14.5 pts a game 10 years ago? He hasn't even averaged double figures in several years. He is 35 a year younger than James jones. Why is everyone acting like he is a huge acquisition?  Getting frye was a lot more important to them and nobody cared when they got him.

Something we agree on. Korver is a nice option off the bench for some offense but at this stage I don't think he's much more than a Gerald Green coming off the bench. Korver doesn't seem to be the deadeye .480 shooter from 3 anymore - he's more around .400 the last couple of years - and has averaged around 10ppg for the last decade. Green isn't nearly as good of a shooter but is more athletic and actually is more dynamic scorer. I'm not saying Korver IS Gerald Green but the two are comparable. I still have no idea how Korver snuck into the All Star game a couple of years ago.

That's not to say Korver isn't valuable for Cleveland. His outside shot still has to be respected and he'll open the offense for the Cavs more. But he's not starting material and he's more than ever a defensive liability. He'll help but I don't see him as a key piece.
Jaylen Brown will be an All Star in the next 5 years.

Re: Kyle Korver
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2017, 03:53:41 PM »

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One game in Korver looks effective.
This was actually his 3rd game as a Cav. First two games he only scored 2 pts in each game


BUT the 18 is prly closer to his actual longterm impact

Do people realize that korvers career high is 14.5 pts a game 10 years ago? He hasn't even averaged double figures in several years. He is 35 a year younger than James jones. Why is everyone acting like he is a huge acquisition?  Getting frye was a lot more important to them and nobody cared when they got him.

Something we agree on. Korver is a nice option off the bench for some offense but at this stage I don't think he's much more than a Gerald Green coming off the bench. Korver doesn't seem to be the deadeye .480 shooter from 3 anymore - he's more around .400 the last couple of years - and has averaged around 10ppg for the last decade. Green isn't nearly as good of a shooter but is more athletic and actually is more dynamic scorer. I'm not saying Korver IS Gerald Green but the two are comparable. I still have no idea how Korver snuck into the All Star game a couple of years ago.

That's not to say Korver isn't valuable for Cleveland. His outside shot still has to be respected and he'll open the offense for the Cavs more. But he's not starting material and he's more than ever a defensive liability. He'll help but I don't see him as a key piece.

I wasn't saying he will avg 18 or even double figures BUT I do think he will play a key role off the bench and have an impact come playoffs Ala Ray Allen on the heat [sorta]....unlike the 2 pts he scored in his first 2 games as a cav.

I think Korver was a great role piece addition to the bench especially with Jr Smith out prly til playoffs

Re: Kyle Korver
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2017, 05:27:58 PM »

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Do people realize Kyle Korver is literally a walking 3 pt machine in their offense? I once made a post I think 1-2 years ago, about how much of a threat Kyle Korver is....

He may not put up dominant scoring numbers, but that is also what made the Hawks so effective... You can't just have one person guarding him, you need to at least keep tabs on him especially on how much he runs on offense, and how much control he has over defenders.

Defenders cannot just lazily run around screens, they have to scramble to avoid pin downs, and when Kyle Korver does his typical baseline cut through two big men screens.

The year Kyle Korver won ASG, had career highs in 3PA, and was top five in 3pt career percentage... You don't think he can sustainable shoot 6 3's per game, and at least hit on 2.5 of them? I believe eventually the Cavs will eventually start Korver, and he'll at least average more than 9 PPG.
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Re: Kyle Korver
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2017, 06:03:44 PM »

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Do people realize Kyle Korver is literally a walking 3 pt machine in their offense? I once made a post I think 1-2 years ago, about how much of a threat Kyle Korver is....

He may not put up dominant scoring numbers, but that is also what made the Hawks so effective... You can't just have one person guarding him, you need to at least keep tabs on him especially on how much he runs on offense, and how much control he has over defenders.

Defenders cannot just lazily run around screens, they have to scramble to avoid pin downs, and when Kyle Korver does his typical baseline cut through two big men screens.

The year Kyle Korver won ASG, had career highs in 3PA, and was top five in 3pt career percentage... You don't think he can sustainable shoot 6 3's per game, and at least hit on 2.5 of them? I believe eventually the Cavs will eventually start Korver, and he'll at least average more than 9 PPG.
He is a very good 3 point shooter. Cant do much else and when JR Smith returns he wont do much.

Re: Kyle Korver
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2017, 06:18:46 PM »

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A lot of people don't watch this game the same way.
Korver is the best 3pts shooter of the last decade. To the point that you have to guard him very tight and probably double on him. He'll be a killer in Cleveland because he'll be wide open often. I won't be surprised if he'll shoot 50% on 3s from now on.

Re: Kyle Korver
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2017, 11:25:12 PM »

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A lot of people don't watch this game the same way.
Korver is the best 3pts shooter of the last decade. To the point that you have to guard him very tight and probably double on him. He'll be a killer in Cleveland because he'll be wide open often. I won't be surprised if he'll shoot 50% on 3s from now on.

Yep.

Korver fits the entire team well. Sharp shooter that doesn't rely on athleticism, but intelligence and smart team play. He's an underrated passer, excellent vision for the game, and just generally knows how to play solid fundamental basketball. He may mainly shoot three pointers, but it would be foolish not to use him as a chucker/sniper. With the addition of Korver, they can trot out any one of Smith, Shumpert, or Korver. Three headed beast.

A hot Cleveland team that is in rhythm and hitting threes make its an impossible team to defeat.
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Re: Kyle Korver
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2017, 01:14:36 AM »

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Do people realize Kyle Korver is literally a walking 3 pt machine in their offense? I once made a post I think 1-2 years ago, about how much of a threat Kyle Korver is....

He may not put up dominant scoring numbers, but that is also what made the Hawks so effective... You can't just have one person guarding him, you need to at least keep tabs on him especially on how much he runs on offense, and how much control he has over defenders.

Defenders cannot just lazily run around screens, they have to scramble to avoid pin downs, and when Kyle Korver does his typical baseline cut through two big men screens.

The year Kyle Korver won ASG, had career highs in 3PA, and was top five in 3pt career percentage... You don't think he can sustainable shoot 6 3's per game, and at least hit on 2.5 of them? I believe eventually the Cavs will eventually start Korver, and he'll at least average more than 9 PPG.

I agree with this.  I don't care too much about Korver's raw numbers.  His mere presence on the court will help the Cavs significantly because (1) you need a tight cover on Korver at all times, hence creating more space for Kyrie and LeBron to operate, and (2) LeBron is probably the best in the league at delivering cross-court passes on target to shooters at the correct time.  It's not always about getting Korver a shot, much like establishing Smart in the post isn't about getting him a shot.  It sets up other players.

James Jones is a spot up shooter.  He can't curl off screens, set his feet and launch from 3 with accuracy.  Korver does this routinely.  He gets his shot off quickly and with good elevation.  Make a mistake by shooting the gap or by leaving him open and he'll make you pay far more often than not.  And even in games where his shot is off, he still commands respect where you can't leave him open.  He's a big upgrade from Dunleavy, Jones, and any other shooter on their recent roster in my opinion.