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Re: Knee-Jerk Negativity Is Tiresome
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2017, 02:04:12 AM »

Offline CelticPride2016

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The point differential is not as good this year. There are definitely areas for improvement. If we could get easier wins, then Brad could sneak in development time for Jaylen and Terry. The impatient part of the fan base is being irrational. Every game is bringing new information.

People should really check out the schedule. We should have no problem winning seven out of every ten for the most part. We could get lucky and win ten in a row.

I look forward to the showdown with Dwight Howard. I heard Amir is back with the team and maybe Jaylen too. I am not trying to glorify a win is a win, but that seemed to be Belichick's method. Philly is pretty good. They are probably similar to Brad's season one 25 win team. I am very happy the Nets have fallen apart and we can hope that continues.

I admit we should beat them like a drum with guaranteed Gino time. But I also liked the Memphis wins. We should have finished off Toronto, but I liked that we outplayed them for most of the game.

The Celtics look like they are going to win 55+ games. Brooklyn is #1 for tankathon. What is the problem?

Re: Knee-Jerk Negativity Is Tiresome
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2017, 03:23:05 AM »

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TP for a well articulated post. Particularly like the part about Green, I think he's going to really mentor Brown to start his career.

We're in an age of instant gratification which often makes it hard to appreciate the things that take a long time to build. We are building this team the right way. Yes there are still gaps but we are looking to peak not this year but in the future so there is plenty of time to fix it, to improve further.

We need to balance our desire to succeed with our enjoyment of the moment. There is lots to be excited about watching this team every night. Although we've fallen off defensively from last year we still have guys like Bradley and Smart who blow our minds with some of the plays they make. And watching IT is like watching him defy gravity sometimes.

Re: Knee-Jerk Negativity Is Tiresome
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2017, 03:51:16 AM »

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I think everyone might have written an OP like this at one point. I did recently too, pointless, but I'm getting better at reading into subject lines on CB. It's not that hard.
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Re: Knee-Jerk Negativity Is Tiresome
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2017, 06:36:37 AM »

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I find the team has some warts but I look forward to watching them every game and most nights we are competitive.

Re: Knee-Jerk Negativity Is Tiresome
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2017, 10:55:56 AM »

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Believe or shut the pie hole. It is getting to me.
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Re: Knee-Jerk Negativity Is Tiresome
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2017, 12:24:30 PM »

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TP for a well articulated post. Particularly like the part about Green, I think he's going to really mentor Brown to start his career.

We're in an age of instant gratification which often makes it hard to appreciate the things that take a long time to build. We are building this team the right way. Yes there are still gaps but we are looking to peak not this year but in the future so there is plenty of time to fix it, to improve further.

We need to balance our desire to succeed with our enjoyment of the moment. There is lots to be excited about watching this team every night. Although we've fallen off defensively from last year we still have guys like Bradley and Smart who blow our minds with some of the plays they make. And watching IT is like watching him defy gravity sometimes.

I made a bunch of posts saying it didn't look like Green would get much of a chance, that it looked like he didn't have the right skills to fit in. Specifically it was his ball hogging. But it turns out it was his lousy shooting that was throwing me off. I had to walk that back the last month.

So I did what I blame others for doing and sounded a bit hypocritical.

I do have knee-jerk reactions, but they don't happen game to game, more like month to month or every two months.

I agree with you there is value to watching "how did he do that" plays. It's called entertainment.

Bradley has taken more leaps than it seemed possible.

Nearly every single player under Brad Stevens improves as a team guy.

James Young and possibly Zeller are the only two players who seem like drift wood on the roster. I think Danny overthought it. RJ Hunter dominated a preseason game yet kept James Young. Granted, Hunter is apparently nothing special and it became an opinion whether to keep one or the other.

If Danny makes an on-tilt deal due to fan base impatience, we will end up with a lot of James Youngs and Tyler Zellers. If he stays the course, he can continue to prune and turn the Celtics into a top to bottom great list of 15 or 17 players considering stashes. If we max out too soon, then you are looking at filler. Basically, if you use up the asset base, you better make sure it works out. I'd rather have a strong roster top to bottom than put all of our chips into one or two players. Those have to be the right players. You can't have Evan Turners making $17 million per year. Horford is okay. That is a four year deal. Worst case scenario is he slows down by the end of the contract, but the good news is that it's only four years.

Pierce's last deal was bad. He was what, already 33? Gortat is a good example. But here I am leading us into discussing Isaiah Thomas making big money at age 34. Earlier I messed up the phrase, but we are really putting the cart in front of the horse. So much is going to take place before various decision times. Speculation can be quite the distraction.

Crowder. What's the point in trading him? He takes up little of the overall cap and fills a complete need.

If Brown isn't a false positive, he will grow as a player over the next years and compete with Jae for SF minutes. It is very likely that we have one-fifth of the positions all figured out.

It looks like we are ready to go with guards.

We are still waiting on guys like Olynyk to produce or be traded/let to walk.

There is value in Bradley and Isaiah precisely because we are winning the games. They are entertaining plus we win.

Over the last several years, the second tier Eastern Conference teams have been basically Indiana, Atlanta, then Washington and Toronto.

We are in that tier. We made it. The current Celtics do not deserve so much criticism when objective opinion should be they are right on schedule.

I think everyone might have written an OP like this at one point. I did recently too, pointless, but I'm getting better at reading into subject lines on CB. It's not that hard.

I have been making these threads since Horford got the concussion and the negativity first emerged. I made my point and am satisfied with the turnaround from when we were barely treading over .500 water. I agree that oftentimes the thread titles can give a good indication of what's going to be discussed.

Since it does take weeks or months for change, as in people like to mention sample pools, it can become work to write on the Celtics. But we are all into it and want some extra sports time in addition to the games.

I don't disappear after losses as much as it's just not that fun to watch a loss and then read people crying about it and then extrapolating to conclusions that we're a fake contender.

The Celtics are like a soap opera or a show where each episode builds up to the next one. Maybe there is never resolution. All I see is the trading deadline approaching as a breathing point. I like the idea that Danny will give this team some kind of present which will make sense, like a bruising center.

I'm very happy with Amir Johnson the last month. Maybe we can get by without such a present. If Zeller was simply better at center defense, this wouldn't be an issue. We need one guy. He doesn't have to play every game. It doesn't necessarily have to be Noel. But we clearly need a big center for when opposing teams expect to bully us inside. We need a backup plan for if Isaiah becomes the midget guy. We need Isaiah to play it cool if he gets benched in such a situation.

I find the team has some warts but I look forward to watching them every game and most nights we are competitive.

The guy above seems very level-headed. He could be the Jae Crowder of the blog. He's very efficient.

I might be Jordan Crawford. I might be good for the moment, but times change, life goes on and there become new moments.

Believe or shut the pie hole. It is getting to me.

I guess I have written the way I have for your kind of sports fan, in that you are not alone. I think Jae said something about, "It never ends." I think I knew what he meant. He shouldn't have attacked the fan base because 50 random fools were cheering for a white guy playing Jae's position on another team and is approaching free agency. It fed into stereotypes by boh those "fans" and the hotheaded Jae Crowder. But I know what he meant. I understood Ray Allen whenever he freaked out over rumors despite not respecting the way he handled it.

NBA players are so privileged. They need to toughen up and not take it so personally. Trades are part of the game. I don't remember Rondo ever having a hissy fit over trade rumors. Maybe I missed it.

On the off-topic, it looks like Sullinger has lost the weight. His face looked thin. I hear that he lost weight and I believe it. But that reminds me of when Rollie wondered if he had betrayed us. Good for Jared. But it's not good that when the pressure was on and this was his team for the taking, he ate the wrong food or who knows why he kept putting on weight.