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Celtics now 0-9 vs teams .600 or better
« on: December 30, 2016, 01:13:21 PM »

Offline MikeB12

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The announcers mentioned the C's were 0-8 vs. .600 teams during the Cavs game.   Well, they are 0-9 now.

Tough game to watch yesterday.   Great comeback, no quit in the team but the team lacks rebounders which really hurts.   They also lack size.  Not enough bigs that can play defense and rebound.   Zeller, Jerebko and Olinyk just lack toughness...they can't play D or rebound.

This team will make the playoffs and win around 45-50 games but have no chance to really contend for the East title or make the conference finals.

Unless the C's somehow trade or draft some bigs that can play defense and rebound, this team will be forever stuck in this mode - a pretty good team but going nowhere in the long run.

MikeB

Re: Celtics now 0-9 vs teams .600 or better
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2016, 01:18:25 PM »

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only teams out of our reach are - IMO, Cavs and Golden State and maybe SA although I am not sold on them yet as a true contender.   I think we can manage to keep up with just about anyone else.  Having said that, I think Toronto could probably beat us in a 4 game series. 

Re: Celtics now 0-9 vs teams .600 or better
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2016, 01:35:30 PM »

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The announcers mentioned the C's were 0-8 vs. .600 teams during the Cavs game.   Well, they are 0-9 now.

Tough game to watch yesterday.   Great comeback, no quit in the team but the team lacks rebounders which really hurts.   They also lack size.  Not enough bigs that can play defense and rebound.   Zeller, Jerebko and Olinyk just lack toughness...they can't play D or rebound.

This team will make the playoffs and win around 45-50 games but have no chance to really contend for the East title or make the conference finals.

Unless the C's somehow trade or draft some bigs that can play defense and rebound, this team will be forever stuck in this mode - a pretty good team but going nowhere in the long run.

MikeB
We are 2-9 vs. .600 teams including losses to Cleveland and Golden State without Al and Jae as well as OKC San Antonion and Toronto without IT.

So you take out those 5 losses (not really fair to do but for the sake of argument Im doing it)

you are left with 2-4 vs. .600

6 point loss to Spurs
1 point loss to Houston (Al and Isaiah miss layups to win)
5 point loss to OKC(Russ goes crazy but still dissapointing loss)
6 point loss to Cle(had chance to take lead with 8 seconds left)
10 point win vs. Memphis
3 point OT win vs. Memphis

When you look at things in context its not as bad as 0-9 suggests. Still not good. we are obviously not at the level of GSW SAS and Cle. We are also a laggin behind Houston and Toronto and perhaps OKC.

Re: Celtics now 0-9 vs teams .600 or better
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2016, 01:37:56 PM »

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The announcers mentioned the C's were 0-8 vs. .600 teams during the Cavs game.   Well, they are 0-9 now.

Tough game to watch yesterday.   Great comeback, no quit in the team but the team lacks rebounders which really hurts.   They also lack size.  Not enough bigs that can play defense and rebound.   Zeller, Jerebko and Olinyk just lack toughness...they can't play D or rebound.

This team will make the playoffs and win around 45-50 games but have no chance to really contend for the East title or make the conference finals.

Unless the C's somehow trade or draft some bigs that can play defense and rebound, this team will be forever stuck in this mode - a pretty good team but going nowhere in the long run.

MikeB
"going nowhere in the long run." seems a bit strong for a team with the third pick in last years draft and a likely top 5 pick in a loaded draft coming up.

Re: Celtics now 0-9 vs teams .600 or better
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2016, 01:38:58 PM »

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The announcers mentioned the C's were 0-8 vs. .600 teams during the Cavs game.   Well, they are 0-9 now.

Tough game to watch yesterday.   Great comeback, no quit in the team but the team lacks rebounders which really hurts.   They also lack size.  Not enough bigs that can play defense and rebound.   Zeller, Jerebko and Olinyk just lack toughness...they can't play D or rebound.

This team will make the playoffs and win around 45-50 games but have no chance to really contend for the East title or make the conference finals.

Unless the C's somehow trade or draft some bigs that can play defense and rebound, this team will be forever stuck in this mode - a pretty good team but going nowhere in the long run.

MikeB

Pretty sure the team with the 3rd best record in the east has a chance at the conference finals. I don't really get why we have to be so pessimistic. We have a really good record with our full team and we were a crowder 3 away from taking the lead against cleveland on their home court. This is not a sky is falling woe is me moment.

Re: Celtics now 0-9 vs teams .600 or better
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2016, 01:46:56 PM »

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Ilikesports - notice I qualified my statement about the long run...UNLESS the Celtics draft some bigs that can play defense and rebound.   I stand by that statement.

MikeB

Re: Celtics now 0-9 vs teams .600 or better
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2016, 01:47:08 PM »

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The announcers mentioned the C's were 0-8 vs. .600 teams during the Cavs game.   Well, they are 0-9 now.

Tough game to watch yesterday.   Great comeback, no quit in the team but the team lacks rebounders which really hurts.   They also lack size.  Not enough bigs that can play defense and rebound.   Zeller, Jerebko and Olinyk just lack toughness...they can't play D or rebound.

This team will make the playoffs and win around 45-50 games but have no chance to really contend for the East title or make the conference finals.

Unless the C's somehow trade or draft some bigs that can play defense and rebound, this team will be forever stuck in this mode - a pretty good team but going nowhere in the long run.

MikeB

Pretty sure the team with the 3rd best record in the east has a chance at the conference finals. I don't really get why we have to be so pessimistic. We have a really good record with our full team and we were a crowder 3 away from taking the lead against cleveland on their home court. This is not a sky is falling woe is me moment.
No its certainly not. We knew on Wednesday that we were not on Cleveland's level. We knew we were a high effort/character team that. We knew we were at least another athletic big and a scorer away from beating or contending with Cle.

Last night didnt reveal anything new but it confirmed these things.

We are in a good place, but last night reminded everyone where we must go, and we must go a long long way.

Re: Celtics now 0-9 vs teams .600 or better
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2016, 01:49:24 PM »

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Ilikesports - notice I qualified my statement about the long run...UNLESS the Celtics draft some bigs that can play defense and rebound.   I stand by that statement.

MikeB
Sure.

Do you believe the odds are high that Boston uses all its future assets and fails to acquire any of those players?

Re: Celtics now 0-9 vs teams .600 or better
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2016, 01:50:27 PM »

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We've lost a disproportionately large amount of close games against good teams, and won a disproportionately large amount of close games against bad teams, but these things tend to average themselves out in the end.


Great words from a great man

Re: Celtics now 0-9 vs teams .600 or better
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2016, 02:15:34 PM »

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weren't Memphis over 600 when we beat them?

Re: Celtics now 0-9 vs teams .600 or better
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2016, 02:21:35 PM »

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weren't Memphis over 600 when we beat them?
yeah and they are over .600 not, Last night, When the announcer made the comment which this is based on Memphis was at like .588 or something like that.

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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2016, 02:33:00 PM »

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So in the East, this means CLE and TOR.  In the west it means GS,SA , HOUS, and  LAC.  Sounds about right almost all these have more talent than us.

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« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2016, 08:37:33 PM »

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Look up the record previous 2 years vs .500 or better clubs. That my friends is under .500 ball as well.

Ainge keeps feeding most the kool-aid and many like the taste.

Purgatory is not a river in Egypt

Re: Celtics now 0-9 vs teams .600 or better
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2016, 10:14:06 PM »

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Look up the record previous 2 years vs .500 or better clubs. That my friends is under .500 ball as well.

Ainge keeps feeding most the kool-aid and many like the taste.

Purgatory is not a river in Egypt

Having a cap space, lottery picks and young promising talents with above .500 record is far from purgatory. Having no lottery picks, maxed out cap space and middle of the pack team record is purgatory. And this team ain't any of those I mentioned later. Know the difference.

Re: Celtics now 0-9 vs teams .600 or better
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2016, 10:18:28 PM »

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Look up the record previous 2 years vs .500 or better clubs. That my friends is under .500 ball as well.

Ainge keeps feeding most the kool-aid and many like the taste.

Purgatory is not a river in Egypt

Having a cap space, lottery picks and young promising talents with above .500 record is far from purgatory. Having no lottery picks, maxed out cap space and middle of the pack team record is purgatory. And this team ain't any of those I mentioned later. Know the difference.

Yep.

Maybe we should tank so that we can get the top pick in this year's draft. Oh wait! We have another team doing that for us!