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Enough money For Hayward and Milsap?
« on: December 26, 2016, 02:57:37 AM »

Offline KG Living Legend

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 If Milsap takes a little less than the Max any chance of making that happen? Cut ties with Amir, Jonas, Olynyk.

 We also  could Move Crowder if absolutely necessary. We would really be an A Minus team if we could add Milsap and Gordon Hayward.

 Also we could stash Yabu and can Zizic for another year if need be.

Re: Enough money For Hayward and Milsap?
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2016, 03:09:32 AM »

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 One website said our actual cap space is just over 30 million next year.

Re: Enough money For Hayward and Milsap?
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2016, 03:21:02 AM »

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I don't want either.
Milsap is too old and Hayward is overrated.

Re: Enough money For Hayward and Milsap?
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2016, 04:32:04 AM »

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I don't want either.
Milsap is too old and Hayward is overrated.



 So you would rather do nothing in free agency? Great plan.

Re: Enough money For Hayward and Milsap?
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2016, 07:14:22 AM »

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I don't want either.
Milsap is too old and Hayward is overrated.

You're out of your mind, Hayward is great. He'd put this team on the next tier.

Re: Enough money For Hayward and Milsap?
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2016, 07:14:57 AM »

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We can't get both. To even get Hayward we would need to let KO go and move a smaller contract to make enough cap room, even then it depends on where the Nets pick lands. To sign both we'd have to get rid of the core pieces of the team like Crowder, Bradley, Smart and Brown. Or Horford

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« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2016, 08:38:43 AM »

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To sign both we'd have to get rid of the core pieces of the team like Crowder, Bradley, Smart and Brown

The question is how many people does Ainge think about this group as core players.   I honestly, do not think any of the above is untradeable.   Bradley is the closest thing to being that.   I heard he loves Brown.  But your talking about the dude that moved PP, against the grain.

Re: Enough money For Hayward and Milsap?
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2016, 09:21:32 AM »

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I don't want either.
Milsap is too old and Hayward is overrated.

22, 6 and 4 with a steal per game shooting 44% and 34 from three making 15 mil a year is overrated?

On what planet?

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« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2016, 09:25:10 AM »

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I would gladly take hayward, but millsap is too old to give him big money..

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« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2016, 09:34:26 AM »

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 One website said our actual cap space is just over 30 million next year.

That website assumes we would let our top 5 pick from the Nets become a free agent, which isn't happening.

Re: Enough money For Hayward and Milsap?
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2016, 12:01:44 PM »

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Hayward would be an up grade over Crowder, He's just has better skills in general. Much better ball handler, and passer. He could be that second option on O that we desperately need. I'd still like to keep Crowder too, he would be very effective on a second unit.

Rather than sign Milsap, I'd like the C's to look for a good Center, and slide Horford over to PF, and then back to center when we go small.


 

Re: Enough money For Hayward and Milsap?
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2016, 01:08:44 PM »

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There will be only room for one max level guy. Millsap would only fit if he took a room exception or vet minimum salary after signing Hayward.

Also just to sign a max guy the C's would have to cut Jackson and Mickey, then let KO, Amir, Jerebko, Green, and Young. Got to remeber also that the Cs will also have to have a cap hold on this years draft pick as well as three or four minimum player cap holds for their empty player slots.

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« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2016, 01:39:59 PM »

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I don't want either.
Milsap is too old and Hayward is overrated.

22, 6 and 4 with a steal per game shooting 44% and 34 from three making 15 mil a year is overrated?

On what planet?

We need bigs.

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« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2016, 10:39:57 PM »

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I think the numbers show if they want to sign another max player, they will have to cut AJ, Zeller and KO. They might be able to salvage Jerebko. They can't sign two max players unless they trade for one.

I don't know how Ainge views Millsap's age (Horford +1), but he fits their needs best, and might make them a more serious contender short term. If they signed Hayward, they would need a revamping up front, having renounced the same players above. I don't know how that would work. They would have to trade at least Crowder.

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« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2016, 10:56:47 PM »

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There will be only room for one max level guy. Millsap would only fit if he took a room exception or vet minimum salary after signing Hayward.

Also just to sign a max guy the C's would have to cut Jackson and Mickey, then let KO, Amir, Jerebko, Green, and Young. Got to remeber also that the Cs will also have to have a cap hold on this years draft pick as well as three or four minimum player cap holds for their empty player slots.

You're almost entirely correct, but they wouldn't have to cut Jackson.  He's partially guaranteed, and his guarantee plus the rookie minimum cap hold that exists if he's cut is more than his salary next year.