It's not easy to remember, but it seemed Pitino talked up full court presses and other coaching strategies that never got applied. He showed no loyalty. He treated Auerbach very badly from what I recall.
Pitino had zero patience. He was trying too hard.
O'Brien took over and the team had an instant identity.
I didn't like how Pitino got rid of David Wesley and other solid players like you mentioned. I don't remember anyone not excited when Pitino first arrived. He turned into a quitter and the kind of college coach who makes it seem they should stay there and not try coaching in the NBA.
Brad is perfect for the current situation. He has proven himself player after player, from Jordan Crawford to Evan Turner to Jae Crowder.
Jae is another guy I can see some fans eventually giving up on.
We simply can't trade him for at least another year or two until Jaylen is ready to start or we sign someone like Hayward.
Maybe Jae will improve like Bradley did for ball handling. Maybe Jae and Jaylen can play together.
I agree with you. These guys are too young making it too risky to trade them. Jaylen Brown looks like a keeper, but there are other guys like Marcus, Rozier and yes, Olynyk, who might be good enough to win you titles in a few years.
Hopefully Avery didn't twist his ankle too badly and won't miss games.
Other than Al Jefferson, I didn't think we had much and was surprised we got KG for that pu pu platter.
Ainge has much better assets this time around. Brooklyn is 1-11 on the road. Only Dallas looks like they might be tanking or will. I'm watching the standings. Some days I go to tankathon to check it out.
If I had to trade one guy, I might unload Rozier. But his trade value can't be that high, at least not yet. Too bad Philly would never take Zeller or maybe they would as an add on and then cut him. Noel would be a definite upgrade over Amir and Zeller. But if you have to give up Olynyk and Rozier, for example, we are ending up with a younger version of Amir, but we would also lose two guys that could come back to haunt us.
I forget the trade, but we ended up with Tony Delk and Rodney Rogers. I think that's what you're referring to. Okay, it was Joe Johnson, Randy Brown, Milt Palacio and a 2002 1st round draft pick for Tony Delk and Rodney Rogers. Rogers was pretty good. Delk seemed underwhelming. And then Rogers was gone. It was like Dallas getting Rondo for Crowder. I do not regret losing Dwight Powell. That was awful letting Joe Johnson go for some lame instant gratification that gratified no one.
It was Chauncey Billups and Dee Brown for Kenny Anderson, Popeye Jones and Zan Tabak. I did like Kenny Anderson, but Popeye kind of fizzled and I don't think Tabak ever did anything.
Milt Palacio was one of my favorite Celtics, but I was just a kid.
So yes, you are correct. If you're going to trade young players, make sure they are scrubs or nothing too special.
Rozier could be special, but he might not be. He might end up as a Jerebko, good but nothing that great. I wouldn't trade much more than him and only because we already have Isaiah, Marcus and Avery and I do think Jaylen Brown could cover the fourth guard minutes when the opponent has some monster shooting guard a bit too big to expect Avery or even Marcus to cover.
I hope the Celtics can pile up some wins over the next twenty games. It is a lot more fun to be in the mix and not bunched up with scrub teams who would be in heaven if they get the eighth seed.
This team has to produce and my confidence remains that we are a top ten team and hopefully top five by the end of the season. We don't have to match the Clippers or Toronto, but we should be close to them for success. The Clippers never seem to get it done in the playoffs and Toronto needs to start advancing to the ECF and Finals. I don't mind if we are in that level. That's this year's goal. I think it's okay to use the injury excuse for the rough start. Danny will probably just have to tinker here and there and otherwise let the tide of time develop Brown and Rozier. Perk and Rondo got it done as young players, so those guys can succeed also.
Jerebko is solid, but has he reached a ceiling? I want to see Olynyk reach his potential. You only need 10 very good players including a couple great ones to contend. Jerebko is gaining my confidence, but I think his ceiling is well below Olynyk's. So I am focusing a lot on Kelly this year. And Jaylen Brown and Smart. And Rozier. Those are precisely the guys who we'd have to trade, some of them at least, to get Cousins or some other top player to make us have a traditional big three.
Or we could do it the no-name Pistons' way. Isaiah is amazing. Horford might be the best player we've had since 2008 KG. Bradley is the guy one wants to call a two-way all-star, a big three piece, but no one wants to jinx him or Crowder.
The only way Danny can mess us up long-term is if he starts trading the assets for some big name. What if the big name busts his achilles? I wish Cousins was a better person or maybe I'd be right there with the impatient folks. Maybe we will not contend realistically for another couple years. That is why it is very interesting no matter what Danny decides to do. The current grass might be greener with a little patience.
I hated the end of the KG-Pierce era. Those were not fun games to watch and we were awful by the end of that, much worse than this year's team. And our guys are so young. I like where this is headed. If we gel by the playoffs, we could win it all even if that just means the illusion of a chance, say 1% odds. We could get to the ECF. We could push Cleveland to six or seven games or maybe upset them.
It's been frustrating so far, no doubt.