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Why would New Orleans say no?
« on: December 15, 2016, 05:23:32 PM »

Offline JohnP

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OK so i have been thinking about trades for Boston and to me this is the best one for both teams.

Boston receives:

Anthony Davis

New Orleans receives:

Jaylen Brown
Amir Johnson
Jonas Jerebko
Nets 17 & 18 picks


Look I dont now all the rules of trades so maybe it couldn't work but the question is if Boston is willing to do this why would New Orleans not want to?

New Orleans is going nowhere this season or the next few seasons with the roster they have.  In my opinion they have zero players on their team that they could trade to improve the roster other than Davis.
They will owe over the next 3 years 33 million to Omer Asik, E'Twaun Moore, and Solomon Hill who are averaging a combined 19pts and 12 rebounds this year.  Jrue Holiday and Tyreke Evans come off the books this year. 
As of now the Pelicans are projected to get the 5th pick in the draft and if you trade Davis you would think that pick would only improve.
So the Pelicans would make this trade they will probably have 2 of the top 5 picks in this years upcoming draft which many people believe is very strong.  Plus they will get last years 3rd pick, Jaylen Brown.  Amir Johnson and Jerebko also come off the books after this season.

Their lineup next year could look something like this:

Pg:  One of Lonzo Ball, Markelle Fultz, Dennis Smith, or DeAaron Fox
Sg:  Buddy Hield or whoever
Sf:  Jaylen Brown
Pf/C  Harry Giles, Jason Tatum, etc.
Pf/C: whoever

This would be a great way to start over for them and could maybe turn it around more quickly then even now with Davis there. Almost like how Minnesota has Towns, Wiggins, and Kris Dunn. Plus they will also have the 18 Nets pick to draft another potential stud.

For the Celtics they get their superstar and in my opinion a player that fits perfectly into their system.

Boston:
Pg: Isaiah Thomas/Terry Rozier
Sg: Avery Bradley/Marcus Smart
Sf: Jae Crowder/Gerald Green/James Young   
Pf: Al Horford/Kelly Olynyk
C: Anthony Davis/Tyler Zeller

What you guys think?


Re: Why would New Orleans say no?
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2016, 05:30:56 PM »

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So many teams could have made trades like this over the years and then none of them do it.  I don't get it either.  Most of these teams can't draft to save their lives is I think a big part of it.

The Kings took Marquese Chriss as the first non-reach pick in like 10 years, then immediately reach for Georgics Papagiannis in the same draft a few picks after.  What good would another pick do them in 2017?  They'd probably take Monte Morris first overall.

Re: Why would New Orleans say no?
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2016, 05:36:07 PM »

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So many teams could have made trades like this over the years and then none of them do it.  I don't get it either.  Most of these teams can't draft to save their lives is I think a big part of it.

The Kings took Marquese Chriss as the first non-reach pick in like 10 years, then immediately reach for Georgics Papagiannis in the same draft a few picks after.  What good would another pick do them in 2017?  They'd probably take Monte Morris first overall.

Hey I am a Monte Morris fan,  ISU alum here...no need to throw shade at Monte he is a good player.  But I do get your point...

I don't think really anything could convince NO to trade AD. 

Re: Why would New Orleans say no?
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2016, 05:47:32 PM »

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Because he's Anthony Davis.  Face of the franchise. 

Dump him & your organization is going to be an absolute beating.  Both from a public relations standpoint and financially. 

Regarding the trade offer that the OP proposed.  It's just not enough.  It is going to cost an absolute arm & a leg to pry Anthony Davis away from New Orleans.


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Re: Why would New Orleans say no?
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2016, 05:49:54 PM »

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If I were them, I would not take that trade, Davis is a sure thing those picks are not.

Re: Why would New Orleans say no?
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2016, 06:44:08 PM »

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Because he's Anthony Davis.  Face of the franchise. 

Dump him & your organization is going to be an absolute beating.  Both from a public relations standpoint and financially. 

Regarding the trade offer that the OP proposed.  It's just not enough.  It is going to cost an absolute arm & a leg to pry Anthony Davis away from New Orleans.

1 top 3 pick in last years draft and 2 more potential top 3 picks and your own pick.  That is alot to rebuild your team with.  Their organization is already taking a beating because of all the terrible moves they have made while he has been there.  Nobody goes to the games now so it probably cant get much worse.  Sorry i just cant think of another scenario where they could rebuild their team and make the playoffs in next few years. 

Re: Why would New Orleans say no?
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2016, 06:47:58 PM »

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The biggest problem is we don't know which pick we are going to get yet and Anthony Davis is at a minimum worth the top pick. So there is no way they are trading him until they find out our draft position.

If we end up with the fifth or sixth pick they simply pass.

If we end up with a top two pick then it certainly becomes a serious offer that they would listen to. The 2018 and Brown and possibly Roz would be necessary to complete it.

Re: Why would New Orleans say no?
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2016, 06:48:18 PM »

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Nothing on our roster would be enough to pry Anthony Davis away from the Pelicans...
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Re: Why would New Orleans say no?
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2016, 06:50:49 PM »

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If Davis were 27-28 you could have a point...but he's 23 year sold, they can rebuild around him.

Re: Why would New Orleans say no?
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2016, 06:51:08 PM »

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Because he's Anthony Davis.  Face of the franchise. 

Dump him & your organization is going to be an absolute beating.  Both from a public relations standpoint and financially. 

Regarding the trade offer that the OP proposed.  It's just not enough.  It is going to cost an absolute arm & a leg to pry Anthony Davis away from New Orleans.
Unless they wait it out and we end up with a top two pick.

They get a clean 7-8 years to start over and do it right. Relearn from their mistakes and how they have failed to put a team around Davis.

The other pieces I included would be needed but it's an offer the Pelicans have to listen to.


Re: Why would New Orleans say no?
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2016, 06:55:00 PM »

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My feelings are we should go the other direction if we end up being a 500 team and Stevens doesn't turn this around.

Send IT, Horford and AB to the Knicks for Porzingis.

The Knicks get to compete for the eastern conference against the Cavs. We get a great young piece to put with Brown Smart and hopefully that point guard everyone wants in the 2017 draft.

Re: Why would New Orleans say no?
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2016, 07:10:40 PM »

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I would make that trade.  Since I'm a Celtics fan, I'm pretty sure that New Orleans would not.

It's a pretty tempting offer -- the #3 overall from the last draft, plus two probable top 5 picks in the next two drafts and a couple of expiring contracts.

But come on, it's Anthony Davis.

If DA actually pulled this off, he's be considered a magician.

It's similar to what Dave Dombrowski pulled by getting Chris Sale from the White Sox.
Give up top young talent, but got a 5x all-star ace pitcher.

Re: Why would New Orleans say no?
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2016, 07:26:03 PM »

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So many teams could have made trades like this over the years and then none of them do it.  I don't get it either.  Most of these teams can't draft to save their lives is I think a big part of it.

The Kings took Marquese Chriss as the first non-reach pick in like 10 years, then immediately reach for Georgics Papagiannis in the same draft a few picks after.  What good would another pick do them in 2017?  They'd probably take Monte Morris first overall.
Chriss was taken by the Suns not the Kings. 

Re: Why would New Orleans say no?
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2016, 07:52:46 PM »

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Teams don't trade 23 year old superstars that have 3 more years on their contract.  If Holliday and Evans hadn't been out for most of the season, NOP would be in playoff contention.  NOP's big problem is lack of cap space so it is going to be hard to build around Davis.  Even if they let Evans and Holliday walk, they won't have enough for a MAX contract.  If I'm them, I'd try to trade their 1st this year for a decent player that needs to be moved plus a salary dump (e.g.  NOP 1st and Asik for Noel). 

Re: Why would New Orleans say no?
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2016, 09:32:06 PM »

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Would we have traded Larry Bird for a package like that?