Lonzo ball could make us Great

[KG Living Legend]

 He literally is the second coming of Jason Kidd. Kidd destroys him in steals per game, a ridiculous 3.8 per game but look at how eerily similar their games are at the same age. Ball is the better shooter for sure.

 Kidd

13 ppg 7.7 apg 3.8 spg 4.9 RPG 3.9 Turnovers .3 bpg

 Ball

15ppg 8.8 apg 1.6spg 5.2 RPG 1 bpg 2.7 Turnovers

 Kidd fg% .463 3p .286% ft .657% 2p% .537%


 Ball Fg% .560 3p%.453% ft .667% 2p%.711%


 Ball is the type of guy that would be perfect for Jaylen Brown and even Marcus smart's development, he gets you the ball in the perfect place so you don't have to do anything except catch and score.

 If we slipped to the fifth pick I would love to Have Jason Kidd Jr.

[KG Living Legend]

 Ball would instantaneously be the most talented player on our team. We have a lot of very good players, but he could unleash the potential of the entire team.

  Trust me on this one, this kids the real deal. If you want to see proof of it watch the clip here at 38 seconds he pulls down the rebound throws it all the way down Court and no player had to take one dribble to get the lay up.


 https://youtu.be/0SvLe1sg3CA

[KG Living Legend]

 Just as Jason Kidd was just a pure joy to watch, this kid is the same. So unselfish, it's just incredible, and on top of it he's nailing 3-pointers at a ridiculous rate, and his two-point percentage is better than Shaquille O'Neal's was at .711%

[walker834]

There definately is an influx of players who are the second coming of guys.  A lot of it is legitament too although I am still wary of some guys like this.  Ball looks pretty  good though.  A lot of these young players coming in now i feel better about than the last generation.  Was never a huge fan of the lebron, dwade generation.  The one before that with KG, Pierce and Duncan was good.   Funny i wasnt huge on the michael jordan era either.  These young kids coming in now look pretty good though but are going to take some time.  Even Kidd did though.

All that said I don't think we need a guy like Ball.  We've got IT and Marcus and Rozier as well as jackson.

Fultz reminds me a lot of Stephon Marbury as well.

Dennis Smith Chauncey Billups.

[walker834]

I love pgs who can pass though.  Magic johnson and jkidd were two guys i really tried to play like growing up. Even though im a celtics fan. As far as teh celtics though  i would try to play like mchale  We more need him at this point. KO isn't cutting it lol.  Or a really good wing to go with jaylen.

If we draft Ball I will be surprised.  Or any of these pg's really.

The guys we  have are what we need as far as guards are concerned.

[KG Living Legend]

I love pgs who can pass though.  Magic johnson and jkidd were two guys i really tried to play like growing up. Even though im a celtics fan. As far as teh celtics though  i would try to play like mchale  We more need him at this point. KO isn't cutting it lol.  Or a really good wing to go with jaylen.

If we draft Ball I will be surprised.  Or any of these pg's really.

The guys we  have are what we need as far as guards are concerned.

 It's the same old song Walker. BPA. I know we are stacked at guard, but it doesn't matter. Your take the player you think has the best future in the league and you worry about the rest later.

 Fultz and Ball are two players that are tough to pass on. We don't have talent like those guys on our team.

[knuckleballer]

His height would also play well with our undersized guards since he is tall enough to defend shooting guards.

[rollie mass]

that shot of his needs to be tested by nba length-i did post that the celtics need to put their passes in the right place ,as often is the difference between making the three or not-and low bounce passes to centers
-one experience with rj and young is enough--this kid is hard to judge

[walker834]

If we trade one of our guards for a big man i could see it.  But Ball to me is going to take time.  There are situations where if Ainge could make a trade for a top big man and then insert someone ala Rondo like he did.  I don't think Ainge just keeps drafting guards though.

A lot of people felt Dunn was the bpa at 3 last year but he wasn't.  Ball has some questions too.  I question if he is bpa available anyways.

Like i said have to be careful with some of these guys who are the second coming of so and so.  A lot of them don't end up being that good.

There's a hype factor with a lot of these guys. A lot of players do model their games after other players and end up  not being as good.

[walker834]

I tried to be magic and jkidd.  Some games people would say hey magic johnson.  I also would try to play like mchale witha  bit of john mcenroe mixed in and i'd end up looking like christian laetner lol.  I appreciate more players who are their own players in ways.  It was just funny and my friends joking.  My best friend was rodman and so dirty as a player.  It's just is what it is.  None of us are in the nba. I was ****ing laetner and pat riley according to my friends. I hate those guys. Every so often I' dbe magic johnson.

I was my own player ultimately but some of these guys you have to be careful is all with hype.  I used to hype up guys when i was  younger because i felt they were the next so and so and they really didn't end up that good.

Like i said i used to lvoe pgs that could pass.  Used to hype up jkidd, and marbury and all those guys.  Some of these guys take time.

I was always at my best when i just played as myself which was a versatile player who could do a lot of things.  I'm only 6'1 and was more a versatile scorer and defender even though early on id play pg, sg, sf, pf and center in highschool. 

I had some of my best games at center because i was 6'1 and would have some games where id just rebound really well and have the ball in my hands and was unselfish and could lead the break.

I was better when I  played without the ball thoughl. Scoring would just come that way.  I bet DA understands this.  Not everyone is larry bird.

My best friend though. That's how it was though.  Little league even.  He was blind in one eye, had ears like rodman with depth perception issues, totally overly aggressive pitcher who threw the ball harder than anyone and he's throwing the ball right at me when im up to bat.  I was much nicer than that. john rocker.  Neither of us ended up like laetner or john rocker either.  more just nice people.

[walker834]

point being Ball is alright but from the celtics perspective i'll believe when i see it.  The celtics have some really good guards.

I think Tatum or Isaac make the most sense as it stands.  you got me on Tatum but Ball not so much.

If a trade is made where we move Isaiah or Smart I could see it.

Right now a lot of these guys are being hyped and I see what you are sayiing with Ball.

Harry Giles is being overlooked somewhat and he may rise into consideration at some point.

All these guys really could fit in some way. The last thing we need to me right now is another pg.  If we draft one ok.

[knuckleballer]

Regarding drafting a point guard, I think you need to look two years down the road as rookies don't normally contribute much to a good team.  IT and Bradley's contract is up after next season and Smart will be a restricted free agent.  Having Ball or Fultz would give Ainge leverage and insurance. 

Giles isn't being overlooked as he's largely considered the best talent in this draft.  It's all about the health of his knees and how he responds once he starts playing this season as well as his medical reports.  He definitely fits our needs better than anyone else in this draft.  A healthy Giles would clearly be the best pick for us assuming he plays close to all the scouts' expectations.  I read one scout say he was the best high school basketball player, aside from Lebron, he had ever seen.

[Who]

Not athletic enough to compare to Jason Kidd.

Kidd was lightening fast, exceptionally agile and has incredible explosive quickness.

[chambers]

he's great but his shot is going to be hard to get off in the NBA, especially vs NBA defenses  coming off picks and leaning sideways.
He has almost zero mid range game and he can't really break guys down off the dribble as well as I'd hoped- he lacks the athleticism that I think would make him a true potential star.

I like him but I don't see him going in the top 5.

[walker834]

He tries to play like steph curry  imo where he's a better shooter than kidd but isn't as good a shooter as curry. I don't mind if players are taking shots from halfcourt if they are curry but i hope this doesn't become a trend with players hat aren't.  That's not something i overly want to see with the celtics.  Cousy was a magician and would do things that others wouldn't but how many of those guys do you need.  We have Isaiah right now who is much more developed and a better scorer.

Ball could be a star but he could also be another guy who just takes ill advised shots.

He doesn't strike me as that talented to be doing that.

Kyrie Irving is like this but more talented than Ball even. Isaiah is too.

Maybe it's the ucla uniform but I see Jordan Farmar on steroids.  Not jason kidd. Not Steph Curry.  He tries to do both and isn't as good at both.

He's neither Kidd, Curry or Cousy.  He's a better version of Jordan Farmar.

Ainge has been known to get enamored with players like Chandler Parsons and guys like that because of his byu roots but whether he ultimately takes them is something else.

Ainge even loves Steph Curry which scares me a little bit on Ball but usually who Ainge targets is more in line with the celtics.