Would Ainge go after Bosh to stick it to Riley?

[Smartacus]

Ever since reading about this exchange in 2013 I've thought differently about the Miami Heat as a trade partner, essentially going from they probably wouldn't want to trade within the conference to not a snowball's chance on a Miami sidewalk.

Aside from being conference rivals it always just seems like we don't have much discourse with the Heat and this public outburst from Pat Riley in 2013 absolutely confirmed that Riley and Ainge simply dislike each other on a personal and professional level.

 

Mar 30, 2013
Kevin Arnovitz
ESPN Staff Writer

NEW ORLEANS -- Miami Heat president Pat Riley on Friday forcefully responded to criticism leveled against LeBron James by Boston Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge.

"Danny Ainge needs to shut the f--- up and manage his own team," Riley said in a statement released through a Heat spokesman. "He was the biggest whiner going when he was playing and I know that because I coached against him."

Ainge said he was at a loss to explain why Riley should have gotten into such a lather in the first place.

"I stand by what I said. That's all. I don't care about Pat Riley. He can say whatever he wants," Ainge said in the runway shortly before Friday night's game against Atlanta.

Ainge couldn't let it go without one final shot at Riley.


"I don't want to mess up his Armani suits and all that hair goop. It would be way too expensive for me," he said.

The only case of high level GM aggressive revenge maneuvering I've heard of is when Portland traded Martell Webster to Minnesota, failed to disclose medical information, and then publicly ridiculed the Minnesota front office for not knowing about Webster's injury when it happened on live TV during the playoffs.

Minnesota then attempted to sign Nic Batum to a Max offer sheet in restricted free agency and brought Brandon Roy back from retirement leaving Portland on the hook for a large portion of his old contract.

Both of those moves put Portland in difficult negotiating positions, could Chris Bosh do the same to Miami?

From what I understand Miami is able to delay playing Chris Bosh and were subsequently wait on waiving him until after the deadline for him to join a playoff team this year. What about next year though? What if Chris Bosh just needs a team to agree to sign him to put leverage on Miami.

What team would be a good fit for a jump shooting, defensively versatile Center? What team is still looking for the fifth member of its starting five? What team is run by a general manager known for taking creative, risky maneuvers and hasn't opened this life for Pat Riley?

If there's going to be one team to take a risk on Chris Bosh, would anyone be in a better position than us?

[tazzmaniac]

Blood clots are serious business.  Bosh needs to retire and enjoy a long life with his family.  I would not want Ainge to pursue him for any reason.   

[Roy H.]

Ainge should go after Bosh because he can help the team and would be making a minimal salary.

[LooseCannon]

Ainge should not go after Bosh because he won't be able to pass a physical and it would just be a waste of time.

[Smartacus]

Ainge should go after Bosh because he can help the team and would be making a minimal salary.

I suppose I could've stressed that a bit more, Bosh at the Vet Min could be a game changer.

[blink]

So what exactly is Bosh's contract status with the heat?  I just read some articles that are speculating that the heat will waive him after Feb 9th or after March 1st.

[alldaboston]

So what exactly is Bosh's contract status with the heat?  Was he waived?

Ira Winderman (one of the main Heat reporters/insiders) said the following on Monday on NBA TV:

* they'll waive him in February, after it's been a year that he hasn't played.
* then, they'll apply for the exception that removes Bosh's payroll from their cap (but they'll still pay him his full salary)
* next season, Bosh will look very hard into finding a doctor and a team that will clear him to return to the NBA. if such a team finds a spot for him, and if Bosh plays 25 games with that team, Bosh's salary will return to the Heat's cap payroll. this is the only reason the Heat don't want to waive him, for the risk of having that salary return.

[blink]

So what exactly is Bosh's contract status with the heat?  Was he waived?

Ira Winderman (one of the main Heat reporters/insiders) said the following on Monday on NBA TV:

* they'll waive him in February, after it's been a year that he hasn't played.
* then, they'll apply for the exception that removes Bosh's payroll from their cap (but they'll still pay him his full salary)
* next season, Bosh will look very hard into finding a doctor and a team that will clear him to return to the NBA. if such a team finds a spot for him, and if Bosh plays 25 games with that team, Bosh's salary will return to the Heat's cap payroll. this is the only reason the Heat don't want to waive him, for the risk of having that salary return.

thanks.  I just was searching it out too after I asked the q.  I shouldn't be so lazy.

[fantankerous]

Ainge quickly responded to Riley later Friday.

"Pat Riley's right," he said. "I should manage my own team."

[blink]

So what exactly is Bosh's contract status with the heat?  Was he waived?

Ira Winderman (one of the main Heat reporters/insiders) said the following on Monday on NBA TV:

* they'll waive him in February, after it's been a year that he hasn't played.
* then, they'll apply for the exception that removes Bosh's payroll from their cap (but they'll still pay him his full salary)
* next season, Bosh will look very hard into finding a doctor and a team that will clear him to return to the NBA. if such a team finds a spot for him, and if Bosh plays 25 games with that team, Bosh's salary will return to the Heat's cap payroll. this is the only reason the Heat don't want to waive him, for the risk of having that salary return.

But if the heat aren't / won't  / can't clear him to play, what other options do they really have other than waiving him??

[alldaboston]

So what exactly is Bosh's contract status with the heat?  Was he waived?

Ira Winderman (one of the main Heat reporters/insiders) said the following on Monday on NBA TV:

* they'll waive him in February, after it's been a year that he hasn't played.
* then, they'll apply for the exception that removes Bosh's payroll from their cap (but they'll still pay him his full salary)
* next season, Bosh will look very hard into finding a doctor and a team that will clear him to return to the NBA. if such a team finds a spot for him, and if Bosh plays 25 games with that team, Bosh's salary will return to the Heat's cap payroll. this is the only reason the Heat don't want to waive him, for the risk of having that salary return.

But if the heat aren't / won't  / can't clear him to play, what other options do they really have other than waiving him??

i dont think they really have any other options. they want to get out of that contract, first and foremost. and the only way to do that is to either have Bosh medically retire, or waive him in February and apply for the exception.

[Smartacus]

So what exactly is Bosh's contract status with the heat?  Was he waived?

Ira Winderman (one of the main Heat reporters/insiders) said the following on Monday on NBA TV:

* they'll waive him in February, after it's been a year that he hasn't played.
* then, they'll apply for the exception that removes Bosh's payroll from their cap (but they'll still pay him his full salary)
* next season, Bosh will look very hard into finding a doctor and a team that will clear him to return to the NBA. if such a team finds a spot for him, and if Bosh plays 25 games with that team, Bosh's salary will return to the Heat's cap payroll. this is the only reason the Heat don't want to waive him, for the risk of having that salary return.

thanks.  I just was searching it out too after I asked the q.  I shouldn't be so lazy.

TP alldaboston. That's what I've come up too. They can put off medically waiving him this year but they have to make a decision next year and even if they medically wave him 25 games next season and his salariy's back to being fully back on the Heat payroll.

Could see a world where they just have to cut ties and eat the cap hit while Bosh plays elsewhere, it'd kill Riley to see Bosh suiting up in Green but it might be unavoidable.

[Ogaju]

it will all depend on the prognosis of the man's medical condition. Haven't some players played with blood clots by using blood thinners and therapeutic sleeves?

[Smartacus]

Blood clots are serious business.  Bosh needs to retire and enjoy a long life with his family.  I would not want Ainge to pursue him for any reason.

Is this a basketball reason that you wouldn't want us to put any eggs in the Bosh basket for fear that he could have to stop playing at a critical moment, or the moral reason that no team should enable a man to put his life at risk to play the game?

Personally I believe in the free market and if Bosh wants to put his life at risk to play basketball, I don't see how that is any different than football players risking CTE or any other sport that puts people's lives at risk. Bosh is a sound and reasoning adult if he understands the risks involved but still wants to play and he can find a medical opinion that will clear him to play, I see no reason why he shouldn't be allowed to suit up.

[alewilliam789]

Oooooh I like this idea. If he's cleared to play and willing to join the squad I say yes!!