Criticism of Horford over Missed Game?

[manl_lui]

Felger has it made. He gets paid a lot of money to make up crazy stuff to stir up the local driving community after they may already be annoyed from a day of work. He doesn't know that much about sports, but he does know how to get under people's skin.

LB, you may have missed your calling!

partially my fault, i more or less stopped listening to 98.5, but occasionally if there are nothing good to listen to on the radio i tune in and then get p---ed when they talk basketball or football

[Donoghus]

Felger has it made. He gets paid a lot of money to make up crazy stuff to stir up the local driving community after they may already be annoyed from a day of work. He doesn't know that much about sports, but he does know how to get under people's skin.

LB, you may have missed your calling!

partially my fault, i more or less stopped listening to 98.5, but occasionally if there are nothing good to listen to on the radio i tune in and then get p---ed when they talk basketball or football

Pretty much every personality on that station should avoid talking basketball because no one knows squat about the NBA there.   Which is sad considering they're the flagship.

[alldaboston]

Felger has it made. He gets paid a lot of money to make up crazy stuff to stir up the local driving community after they may already be annoyed from a day of work. He doesn't know that much about sports, but he does know how to get under people's skin.

LB, you may have missed your calling!

partially my fault, i more or less stopped listening to 98.5, but occasionally if there are nothing good to listen to on the radio i tune in and then get p---ed when they talk basketball or football

Pretty much every personality on that station should avoid talking basketball because no one knows squat about the NBA there.   Which is sad considering they're the flagship.

I saw this yesterday: https://twitter.com/csl_duke/status/803727731506761728

is there a chance the celtics can do anything about him?

[Clench123]

The question i have is if we had lost that game would all you people saying it's ok still feel thesame?

[Ilikesports17]

Felger has it made. He gets paid a lot of money to make up crazy stuff to stir up the local driving community after they may already be annoyed from a day of work. He doesn't know that much about sports, but he does know how to get under people's skin.

LB, you may have missed your calling!

partially my fault, i more or less stopped listening to 98.5, but occasionally if there are nothing good to listen to on the radio i tune in and then get p---ed when they talk basketball or football

Pretty much every personality on that station should avoid talking basketball because no one knows squat about the NBA there.   Which is sad considering they're the flagship.

I saw this yesterday: https://twitter.com/csl_duke/status/803727731506761728

is there a chance the celtics can do anything about him?

why would they?

he brings in ratings.

[Donoghus]

Felger has it made. He gets paid a lot of money to make up crazy stuff to stir up the local driving community after they may already be annoyed from a day of work. He doesn't know that much about sports, but he does know how to get under people's skin.

LB, you may have missed your calling!

partially my fault, i more or less stopped listening to 98.5, but occasionally if there are nothing good to listen to on the radio i tune in and then get p---ed when they talk basketball or football

Pretty much every personality on that station should avoid talking basketball because no one knows squat about the NBA there.   Which is sad considering they're the flagship.

I saw this yesterday: https://twitter.com/csl_duke/status/803727731506761728

is there a chance the celtics can do anything about him?

why would they?

he brings in ratings.

Exactly.

I've stopped following the ratings but Felger & Mazz was consistently the #1 drive time show so their executives won't do anything more than perhaps a closed door "Tone it down a bit" citation.

[alldaboston]

The question i have is if we had lost that game would all you people saying it's ok still feel thesame?

Yes. at least I would. If we actually lost against that heat team it would have meant that we played like ****. Horford playing probably wouldn't have fixed that.

When this team starts to stink up the joint, boyyyyyyy do they stink up the JOINT!

[PhoSita]

Ignorance is funny thing.  Now you are calling people trolls too. Yeah that's real empathy bunch of phony bs.   Puhlease hypocrites.

I'm not sure what empathy has to do with it, but here goes:

If anything, I can really empathize with what Felger is doing -- he says things that are outrageous on their face because he knows people will become outraged and respond emphatically, which causes other people to respond to the reponse and so on.  And all of it refers back to him.  I can totally understand why he would feel that doing so is beneficial to him.  Empathy!

So, because I can empathize with Felger, I can appreciate just how much of a troll he is!

After all, isn't that the textbook definition of a troll?

Let's see ...

A troll is a person who "Make(s) a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them."

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/troll


Look, Felger is good at his job.  His job is to get people to listen to, talk about, and call into his show.  This nonsense about Horford missing a game to be with his wife when she gives birth is just the latest in a long line of "controversies" created by nothing more than Felger saying something about it on his show.  Mission accomplished Felger.  You got us, again.

[green_bballers13]

I made this point on another thread: does each individual game really matter all that much for the Celtics? Is it life or death to acquire the #2 vs #7 pick in the playoffs? I don't think it does. The Celtics probably aren't going to win the NBA championship, so I'm more concerned about developing young players then squeaking out 58 wins vs. 50 wins. Cleveland is the only contender in the East, so you're more than likely going to lose home court advantage in order to get to the NBA Finals.

Felger missed a day of work for his kid, and he makes a lot of money. How silly.

[Ilikesports17]

I made this point on another thread: does each individual game really matter all that much for the Celtics? Is it life or death to acquire the #2 vs #7 pick in the playoffs? I don't think it does. The Celtics probably aren't going to win the NBA championship, so I'm more concerned about developing young players then squeaking out 58 wins vs. 50 wins. Cleveland is the only contender in the East, so you're more than likely going to lose home court advantage in order to get to the NBA Finals.

Felger missed a day of work for his kid, and he makes a lot of money. How silly.

Yes.

[MJohnnyboy]

I made this point on another thread: does each individual game really matter all that much for the Celtics? Is it life or death to acquire the #2 vs #7 pick in the playoffs? I don't think it does. The Celtics probably aren't going to win the NBA championship, so I'm more concerned about developing young players then squeaking out 58 wins vs. 50 wins. Cleveland is the only contender in the East, so you're more than likely going to lose home court advantage in order to get to the NBA Finals.

Felger missed a day of work for his kid, and he makes a lot of money. How silly.

To answer your question, it absolutely does no questions asked. Take last season for example.

If the Celtics had just won one more game than they did, they would have had the third seed. They would have faced Charlotte, who they were 3-1 against in the regular season AND would have had homecourt advantage as opposed to Atlanta, who they were 1-3 against in the regular season and didn't have homecourt advantage. That could have led to a much different outcome than what actually happened. Maybe we not only beat Charlotte, but we beat Toronto too, which makes could have led to a different outcome with certain players i.e. Kevin Durant but of course that's all hypothetical. Point though is that ONE GAME can change everything.

Better yet, had the Celtics not gotten so careless against Brooklyn last season, that could have led to not only two more wins, but increased odds at getting Ben Simmons or getting a superstar for Ben Simmons.

Most importantly, the Horford signing clearly showed the Celtics want to win now, not later, so I don't think youth movement is the first priority to them.

Having said all of that, I don't fault Horford at all for staying with his wife and newborn child. A man should value his family over his job. The saddest part about all of this is that I don't think anyone who's upset would be nearly as mad if Horford hadn't missed all those games with that concussion. If he had been healthy leading up to that Heat game, no one would be upset with him.

[alldaboston]

I made this point on another thread: does each individual game really matter all that much for the Celtics? Is it life or death to acquire the #2 vs #7 pick in the playoffs? I don't think it does. The Celtics probably aren't going to win the NBA championship, so I'm more concerned about developing young players then squeaking out 58 wins vs. 50 wins. Cleveland is the only contender in the East, so you're more than likely going to lose home court advantage in order to get to the NBA Finals.

Felger missed a day of work for his kid, and he makes a lot of money. How silly.

To answer your question, it absolutely does no questions asked. Take last season for example.

If the Celtics had just won one more game than they did, they would have had the third seed. They would have faced Charlotte, who they were 3-1 against in the regular season AND would have had homecourt advantage as opposed to Atlanta, who they were 1-3 against in the regular season and didn't have homecourt advantage. That could have led to a much different outcome than what actually happened. Maybe we not only beat Charlotte, but we beat Toronto too, which makes could have led to a different outcome with certain players i.e. Kevin Durant but of course that's all hypothetical. Point though is that ONE GAME can change everything.

Better yet, had the Celtics not gotten so careless against Brooklyn last season, that could have led to not only two more wins, but increased odds at getting Ben Simmons or getting a superstar for Ben Simmons.

Most importantly, the Horford signing clearly showed the Celtics want to win now, not later, so I don't think youth movement is the first priority to them.

Having said all of that, I don't fault Horford at all for staying with his wife and newborn child. A man should value his family over his job. The saddest part about all of this is that I don't think anyone who's upset wouldn't be nearly as mad if Horford hadn't missed all those games with that concussion. If he had been healthy leading up to that Heat game, no one would be upset with him.

Post of the day, maybe even post of the week. TP

[MJohnnyboy]

I made this point on another thread: does each individual game really matter all that much for the Celtics? Is it life or death to acquire the #2 vs #7 pick in the playoffs? I don't think it does. The Celtics probably aren't going to win the NBA championship, so I'm more concerned about developing young players then squeaking out 58 wins vs. 50 wins. Cleveland is the only contender in the East, so you're more than likely going to lose home court advantage in order to get to the NBA Finals.

Felger missed a day of work for his kid, and he makes a lot of money. How silly.

To answer your question, it absolutely does no questions asked. Take last season for example.

If the Celtics had just won one more game than they did, they would have had the third seed. They would have faced Charlotte, who they were 3-1 against in the regular season AND would have had homecourt advantage as opposed to Atlanta, who they were 1-3 against in the regular season and didn't have homecourt advantage. That could have led to a much different outcome than what actually happened. Maybe we not only beat Charlotte, but we beat Toronto too, which makes could have led to a different outcome with certain players i.e. Kevin Durant but of course that's all hypothetical. Point though is that ONE GAME can change everything.

Better yet, had the Celtics not gotten so careless against Brooklyn last season, that could have led to not only two more wins, but increased odds at getting Ben Simmons or getting a superstar for Ben Simmons.

Most importantly, the Horford signing clearly showed the Celtics want to win now, not later, so I don't think youth movement is the first priority to them.

Having said all of that, I don't fault Horford at all for staying with his wife and newborn child. A man should value his family over his job. The saddest part about all of this is that I don't think anyone who's upset wouldn't be nearly as mad if Horford hadn't missed all those games with that concussion. If he had been healthy leading up to that Heat game, no one would be upset with him.

Post of the day, maybe even post of the week. TP

Right back at ya my friend.

[green_bballers13]

I made this point on another thread: does each individual game really matter all that much for the Celtics? Is it life or death to acquire the #2 vs #7 pick in the playoffs? I don't think it does. The Celtics probably aren't going to win the NBA championship, so I'm more concerned about developing young players then squeaking out 58 wins vs. 50 wins. Cleveland is the only contender in the East, so you're more than likely going to lose home court advantage in order to get to the NBA Finals.

Felger missed a day of work for his kid, and he makes a lot of money. How silly.

To answer your question, it absolutely does no questions asked. Take last season for example.

If the Celtics had just won one more game than they did, they would have had the third seed. They would have faced Charlotte, who they were 3-1 against in the regular season AND would have had homecourt advantage as opposed to Atlanta, who they were 1-3 against in the regular season and didn't have homecourt advantage. That could have led to a much different outcome than what actually happened. Maybe we not only beat Charlotte, but we beat Toronto too, which makes could have led to a different outcome with certain players i.e. Kevin Durant but of course that's all hypothetical. Point though is that ONE GAME can change everything.

Better yet, had the Celtics not gotten so careless against Brooklyn last season, that could have led to not only two more wins, but increased odds at getting Ben Simmons or getting a superstar for Ben Simmons.

Most importantly, the Horford signing clearly showed the Celtics want to win now, not later, so I don't think youth movement is the first priority to them.

Having said all of that, I don't fault Horford at all for staying with his wife and newborn child. A man should value his family over his job. The saddest part about all of this is that I don't think anyone who's upset would be nearly as mad if Horford hadn't missed all those games with that concussion. If he had been healthy leading up to that Heat game, no one would be upset with him.

The bolded is all conjecture. We have no idea what would have happened vs Charlotte, or Toronto. Atlanta was not an impressive team. If we couldn't beat them, why would we have defeated a Toronto team with Biyombo playing out of his mind?

My point is that the Celtics weren't put together to win the NBA championship last year, and the same applies this year, despite the Horford signing. We still need a player or two before homecourt vs Cleveland matters.

Also, I have no idea how to project the flight path of ping pong balls. I'm not a physicist. While probability counts for something, it really doesn't matter all that much, esp. when the #1 seed has such a low probability of hitting (25%). The key is that Brooklyn will prob. stink so badly that we have a decent chance of a top 5 pick. Other than that, I think we're throwing darts when we try to predict what pick we get.

[MJohnnyboy]

I made this point on another thread: does each individual game really matter all that much for the Celtics? Is it life or death to acquire the #2 vs #7 pick in the playoffs? I don't think it does. The Celtics probably aren't going to win the NBA championship, so I'm more concerned about developing young players then squeaking out 58 wins vs. 50 wins. Cleveland is the only contender in the East, so you're more than likely going to lose home court advantage in order to get to the NBA Finals.

Felger missed a day of work for his kid, and he makes a lot of money. How silly.

To answer your question, it absolutely does no questions asked. Take last season for example.

If the Celtics had just won one more game than they did, they would have had the third seed. They would have faced Charlotte, who they were 3-1 against in the regular season AND would have had homecourt advantage as opposed to Atlanta, who they were 1-3 against in the regular season and didn't have homecourt advantage. That could have led to a much different outcome than what actually happened. Maybe we not only beat Charlotte, but we beat Toronto too, which makes could have led to a different outcome with certain players i.e. Kevin Durant but of course that's all hypothetical. Point though is that ONE GAME can change everything.

Better yet, had the Celtics not gotten so careless against Brooklyn last season, that could have led to not only two more wins, but increased odds at getting Ben Simmons or getting a superstar for Ben Simmons.

Most importantly, the Horford signing clearly showed the Celtics want to win now, not later, so I don't think youth movement is the first priority to them.

Having said all of that, I don't fault Horford at all for staying with his wife and newborn child. A man should value his family over his job. The saddest part about all of this is that I don't think anyone who's upset would be nearly as mad if Horford hadn't missed all those games with that concussion. If he had been healthy leading up to that Heat game, no one would be upset with him.

The bolded is all conjecture. We have no idea what would have happened vs Charlotte, or Toronto. Atlanta was not an impressive team. If we couldn't beat them, why would we have defeated a Toronto team with Biyombo playing out of his mind?

My point is that the Celtics weren't put together to win the NBA championship last year, and the same applies this year, despite the Horford signing. We still need a player or two before homecourt vs Cleveland matters.

Also, I have no idea how to project the flight path of ping pong balls. I'm not a physicist. While probability counts for something, it really doesn't matter all that much, esp. when the #1 seed has such a low probability of hitting (25%). The key is that Brooklyn will prob. stink so badly that we have a decent chance of a top 5 pick. Other than that, I think we're throwing darts when we try to predict what pick we get.

Hence why I said it was all hypothetical. More importantly the hypothetical that I brought out wasn't the point. The point I was making was that I was answering your question. Does every individual game count in the regular season count? The answer is absolutely and last season is living proof of it. Everything could have been a whole lot different had the Celtics just had one more victory last season. No one knows for sure what would have happened but just one more win could have changed the entire course.

To respond to your objection to my hypothetical, Atlanta may not have been an impressive team but they matched up with the Celtics SUPER well. That's very well evidenced by the fact that we were 1-3 against them in the regular season as I brought up before and they had homecourt. Compared to Miami and Charlotte, who the Celtics were 6-1 against combined in the regular season.

Also, the reason why I believed Toronto was beatable was because they barely squeaked by Indiana and Miami. It took 7 games in each of those series and it also took extremely lucky shots for them to get by two teams that were not definitively better than the Celtics were. Also Biyombo only went crazy because of the circumstances. Valanciunas' injury gave him the extended minutes.

Also, the whole lottery odds thing doesn't matter. No one here knows what would have happened. If you want to be a pessimist about it, go ahead no one's stopping you. This all is what makes a hypothetical a hypothetical.  I think anyone who is anyone would have preferred Charlotte over Atlanta not to mention the homecourt advantage. Also I'm pretty sure we all would have preferred having higher odds in the lottery wouldn't you agree?

That all ties down to just answering your question earlier, which is yes. It's true the Celtics weren't equipped to win the championship last year or this year right now, but they could have been had things gone their way. Better yet, their equipped to make a move to better themselves now. You said you wanted to develop the young kids, which I don't think the Celtics primarily care about because the Horford signing was a win-now move.