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Re: must get Jaylen back in the rotation
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2016, 04:43:48 PM »

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He's too good based on what?  He's shown flashes but there's little proof he can be a positive impact rotation player right now.

He looks good for a 20 year old rookie. I like his finishing and shot blocking so far. His man to man defense is passable even if his team defense needs lots of work. He produced in that Cavs game when he got minutes. It's very hard to produce as a rookie in very limited minutes but I like what I've seen so far.
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Re: must get Jaylen back in the rotation
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2016, 05:21:15 PM »

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Crowder is already talking about wanting to get his minutes back. The only way I see that happening is if Brown loses the 5-7 minutes he's getting now.

Just a warning. Brown might be out of the rotation soon if Crowder gets his way.

Re: must get Jaylen back in the rotation
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2016, 06:08:10 PM »

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I'm fine with jaylen going through a stretch but if jaylen is playing 5 minutes a game all year that's an issue.

jerebko and brown need to switch off or something and zeller has to get some dnp's.

Re: must get Jaylen back in the rotation
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2016, 06:11:30 PM »

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Also what happened to that thread we were just in?  Also just noticed i have NCE above my name? Did i get some sort of infraction or special label for saying Roy was a terrorist or something?  lol.  I wasn't even calling him that.  Just trying to point something  out. How people think in general.  Tone is everything. So is meaning.   The truth is out there. That's not always apparent through text or in general.

The entire thread blew up apparently.... Lost connection to the site for a bit too.  Weird.
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Re: must get Jaylen back in the rotation
« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2016, 06:57:52 PM »

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Also what happened to that thread we were just in?  Also just noticed i have NCE above my name? Did i get some sort of infraction or special label for saying Roy was a terrorist or something?  lol.  I wasn't even calling him that.  Just trying to point something  out. How people think in general.  Tone is everything. So is meaning.   The truth is out there. That's not always apparent through text or in general.

The entire thread blew up apparently.... Lost connection to the site for a bit too.  Weird.

What thread? I think NCE equals no current events.

Re: must get Jaylen back in the rotation
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2016, 12:50:10 PM »

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I agree. The only way he gets better is by playing.

Brown will get better whether he plays big minutes or not (see Rozier, Terry)

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Jerebko should not be playing over him ever.

Jerebko plays PF (which Brown can't do) and is shooting extremely well (50% on 2s and 42.3% on 3s, both of which are better than Brown).  There isn't really any argument for playing Brown over Jerebko except "he's young!"

Jerebko plays the 3 and 4 as does Brown. Currently, Jerebko is hot and as soon as he cools down he should go sit on the bench. He isn't a part of this teams future. The future is guys like Brown, Smart, and Rozier. When they do play more consistent minutes you will see the younger people improving more steadily. It's just a fact.

Re: must get Jaylen back in the rotation
« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2016, 01:30:29 PM »

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For folks pointing to Rozier's development despite short minutes last year, remember he spent time in the D-league. Should Brown get some time there too? If he is only going to get 5-7 minutes here and there I think so. He needs reps as much as anything. We could see quite a different player in even March/April of this year.

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« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2016, 01:51:24 PM »

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For folks pointing to Rozier's development despite short minutes last year, remember he spent time in the D-league. Should Brown get some time there too? If he is only going to get 5-7 minutes here and there I think so. He needs reps as much as anything. We could see quite a different player in even March/April of this year.
I wouldn't mind Brown getting a couple small stints down there.  Sounds like a good idea to me. 

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« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2016, 02:06:30 PM »

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For folks pointing to Rozier's development despite short minutes last year, remember he spent time in the D-league. Should Brown get some time there too? If he is only going to get 5-7 minutes here and there I think so. He needs reps as much as anything. We could see quite a different player in even March/April of this year.
I wouldn't mind Brown getting a couple small stints down there.  Sounds like a good idea to me.

i think it'd hurt his confidence big time, actually. the 3RD pick, playing in the d-league. if he has a bad game there, then it's really gonna be bad for his confidence.
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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Re: must get Jaylen back in the rotation
« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2016, 02:17:55 PM »

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For folks pointing to Rozier's development despite short minutes last year, remember he spent time in the D-league. Should Brown get some time there too? If he is only going to get 5-7 minutes here and there I think so. He needs reps as much as anything. We could see quite a different player in even March/April of this year.
I wouldn't mind Brown getting a couple small stints down there.  Sounds like a good idea to me.

i think it'd hurt his confidence big time, actually. the 3RD pick, playing in the d-league. if he has a bad game there, then it's really gonna be bad for his confidence.
Maybe, but if a guy can play he should be able to play.  I think the increased offensive responsibility might be good for him.   On the Celtics, knowing that he's going to get one or two shots and missing must not be great for his confidence either.  It must be pretty nerve wracking.

Re: must get Jaylen back in the rotation
« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2016, 02:23:34 PM »

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I agree. The only way he gets better is by playing.

Brown will get better whether he plays big minutes or not (see Rozier, Terry)

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Jerebko should not be playing over him ever.

Jerebko plays PF (which Brown can't do) and is shooting extremely well (50% on 2s and 42.3% on 3s, both of which are better than Brown).  There isn't really any argument for playing Brown over Jerebko except "he's young!"

Jerebko plays the 3 and 4 as does Brown. Currently, Jerebko is hot and as soon as he cools down he should go sit on the bench. He isn't a part of this teams future. The future is guys like Brown, Smart, and Rozier. When they do play more consistent minutes you will see the younger people improving more steadily. It's just a fact.

In his ten most common lineups on basketball-reference.com, Jerebko has not shared the floor with more than one player out of Horford/Zeller/Olynyk/Johnson, so it is likely that he has been used almost exclusively as a PF and isn't taking away any SF minutes from Brown.

Avery Bradley is the current workhorse of the wing rotation with 36 MPG.  A few minutes can come from him.  More minutes should be available for Brown to earn when Jae Crowder is fully healthy and we see more smallball lineups with Crowder at the 4.  I don't think we'll see Brown being used much as a smallball PF unless it is garbage time.
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Re: must get Jaylen back in the rotation
« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2016, 02:44:03 PM »

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Its OK if Brown doesnt get a ton of minutes this year.  I think we should probably give him a solid stint in Maine for like a week to get a ton of reps.

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« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2016, 11:29:44 PM »

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For folks pointing to Rozier's development despite short minutes last year, remember he spent time in the D-league. Should Brown get some time there too? If he is only going to get 5-7 minutes here and there I think so. He needs reps as much as anything. We could see quite a different player in even March/April of this year.
I wouldn't mind Brown getting a couple small stints down there.  Sounds like a good idea to me.

i think it'd hurt his confidence big time, actually. the 3RD pick, playing in the d-league. if he has a bad game there, then it's really gonna be bad for his confidence.
Maybe, but if a guy can play he should be able to play.  I think the increased offensive responsibility might be good for him.   On the Celtics, knowing that he's going to get one or two shots and missing must not be great for his confidence either.  It must be pretty nerve wracking.

I'd send him down for a month. Let him get his confidence up and bring him back and see how it went.

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« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2016, 11:41:40 PM »

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For folks pointing to Rozier's development despite short minutes last year, remember he spent time in the D-league. Should Brown get some time there too? If he is only going to get 5-7 minutes here and there I think so. He needs reps as much as anything. We could see quite a different player in even March/April of this year.
I wouldn't mind Brown getting a couple small stints down there.  Sounds like a good idea to me.

i think it'd hurt his confidence big time, actually. the 3RD pick, playing in the d-league. if he has a bad game there, then it's really gonna be bad for his confidence.
Maybe, but if a guy can play he should be able to play.  I think the increased offensive responsibility might be good for him.   On the Celtics, knowing that he's going to get one or two shots and missing must not be great for his confidence either.  It must be pretty nerve wracking.

I'd send him down for a month. Let him get his confidence up and bring him back and see how it went.

I'd play Jaylen, Marcus, and Rozier over 20 min each, while trying to win as many games as possible. I don't think JB's added minutes would have dire consequences (8th seed or even no playoffs).

I don't see the immediate need to get the #2 seed in the East. They are talented enough to beat Toronto if they get the #7 seed in the playoffs.  Last year, injuries and a general lack of talent meant that they would not have made it far in the playoffs regardless of what team they played. This year, I don't really care that much who they draw, unless a major trade occurs. There's a lot of parity.
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Re: must get Jaylen back in the rotation
« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2016, 06:34:36 PM »

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He'll get more minutes after he improves his defense.  Must still be learning the intricacies, there are honestly way too many for a rookie to pick up.  He's better off working mainly in practice and film sessions with small opportunities to prove what he's learned.  No reason to over-expose him to offenses he doesn't know how to defend properly.  Although this method is slow, the Celtics are currently contending and need all the wins they can get, so they can't afford to experience rookie mistakes all the time. 

Also, he needs to improve his ballhandling and composure; he seems a little nervous when the ball gets into his hands even though he occasionally can make good decisions.