Celtics (9-7) at Heat (5-11) Game #17 11/28/16

[Rosco917]

When the paint closes down, IT has to look for open shooters more often as he heads to the rim, so teams don't collapse on him so much. If he made them pay more often, the paint would re-open for him. Lately it's like all teams are playing him to score only.

I know his effort doesn't show in the stats consistently, but you gotta love the way Marcus plays, he is annoying players into reacting to him, and forgetting about the team game.

[Tr1boy]

IT -- 23 points on 23 shots  including 7 FTs.  very definition of a gunner.

I just dislike 6-20...guys standing around...everytime he passes the ball to someone, he wants it back RIGHT away.... 

He thinks he is iverson or Kobe....    but he is shooting at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line

Many mediocre nba players can avg 20 plus points if they had the green light to chuck up 20 shots and was allowed to shoot at those low fg percentages

I dislike "hot dog" basketball

Whats his true shooting percentage at? Isn't that what really matters

no...  those "side" stats can't help you if you shoot at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line...

7-23...  at least 5-7 shots could have made by other players.... IT could of made a conscious effort to drive and kick

TS% is not a "side" stat. It's a fairly good estimate of points per possession and Thomas is one of the most efficient players in the NBA.

i disagree...    IT is considered somewhat efficient bc he gets to the FT line

but he can be better at non FT line shooting..... 

I have yet to see him go 8-10,  10-12, 15-17 .....  its always 7-22, 7-18,  6-20  etc.

He could do better

By your standards you would be complaining if Westbrook was on our team.

Coming to that conclusion I don't see any point in entertaining you with carrying on this conversation.

are  you really comparing RW to IT??

[TrueFan]

IT -- 23 points on 23 shots  including 7 FTs.  very definition of a gunner.

I just dislike 6-20...guys standing around...everytime he passes the ball to someone, he wants it back RIGHT away.... 

He thinks he is iverson or Kobe....    but he is shooting at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line

Many mediocre nba players can avg 20 plus points if they had the green light to chuck up 20 shots and was allowed to shoot at those low fg percentages

I dislike "hot dog" basketball

Whats his true shooting percentage at? Isn't that what really matters

no...  those "side" stats can't help you if you shoot at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line...

7-23...  at least 5-7 shots could have made by other players.... IT could of made a conscious effort to drive and kick

TS% is not a "side" stat. It's a fairly good estimate of points per possession and Thomas is one of the most efficient players in the NBA.

i disagree...    IT is considered somewhat efficient bc he gets to the FT line

but he can be better at non FT line shooting..... 

I have yet to see him go 8-10,  10-12, 15-17 .....  its always 7-22, 7-18,  6-20  etc.

He could do better

By your standards you would be complaining if Westbrook was on our team.

Coming to that conclusion I don't see any point in entertaining you with carrying on this conversation.

are  you really comparing RW to IT??

FG% and 3pt % yes. They both have very efficient true shooting percentages however.

You would be complaining about Westbrook if he was in green.

[BitterJim]

IT -- 23 points on 23 shots  including 7 FTs.  very definition of a gunner.

I just dislike 6-20...guys standing around...everytime he passes the ball to someone, he wants it back RIGHT away.... 

He thinks he is iverson or Kobe....    but he is shooting at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line

Many mediocre nba players can avg 20 plus points if they had the green light to chuck up 20 shots and was allowed to shoot at those low fg percentages

I dislike "hot dog" basketball

Whats his true shooting percentage at? Isn't that what really matters

no...  those "side" stats can't help you if you shoot at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line...

7-23...  at least 5-7 shots could have made by other players.... IT could of made a conscious effort to drive and kick

He had 8 assists...

8 assist is not enough... why doesn't he have 15 assist games?/  like tonight

instead of wanting to "pad" scoring stat.... drive and kick

Seriously. Are John Stockton numbers that much to ask?

[hwangjini_1]

IT -- 23 points on 23 shots  including 7 FTs.  very definition of a gunner.

I just dislike 6-20...guys standing around...everytime he passes the ball to someone, he wants it back RIGHT away.... 

He thinks he is iverson or Kobe....    but he is shooting at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line

Many mediocre nba players can avg 20 plus points if they had the green light to chuck up 20 shots and was allowed to shoot at those low fg percentages

I dislike "hot dog" basketball

Whats his true shooting percentage at? Isn't that what really matters

no...  those "side" stats can't help you if you shoot at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line...

7-23...  at least 5-7 shots could have made by other players.... IT could of made a conscious effort to drive and kick

He had 8 assists...

8 assist is not enough... why doesn't he have 15 assist games?/  like tonight

instead of wanting to "pad" scoring stat.... drive and kick

Seriously. Are John Stockton numbers that much to ask?

Well played sir.  A tp for you. 

[alldaboston]

what happened to Marcus's ft shooting? In the past hes been a 70% guy.

It's early. This is just his 14th game. He started off slow one of his other seasons, too, iirc.

Does seem like he has too much movement on his free throw shot, though.

he has a really weird windup on his FT shot

[alldaboston]

IT -- 23 points on 23 shots  including 7 FTs.  very definition of a gunner.

I just dislike 6-20...guys standing around...everytime he passes the ball to someone, he wants it back RIGHT away.... 

He thinks he is iverson or Kobe....    but he is shooting at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line

Many mediocre nba players can avg 20 plus points if they had the green light to chuck up 20 shots and was allowed to shoot at those low fg percentages

I dislike "hot dog" basketball

Whats his true shooting percentage at? Isn't that what really matters

no...  those "side" stats can't help you if you shoot at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line...

7-23...  at least 5-7 shots could have made by other players.... IT could of made a conscious effort to drive and kick

TS% is not a "side" stat. It's a fairly good estimate of points per possession and Thomas is one of the most efficient players in the NBA.

i disagree...    IT is considered somewhat efficient bc he gets to the FT line

but he can be better at non FT line shooting..... 

I have yet to see him go 8-10,  10-12, 15-17 .....  its always 7-22, 7-18,  6-20  etc.

He could do better

By your standards you would be complaining if Westbrook was on our team.

Coming to that conclusion I don't see any point in entertaining you with carrying on this conversation.

are  you really comparing RW to IT??

Are you really asking Isaiah to be Steph Curry and John Stockton together in the same mold?

[LarBrd33]

Great to have Jae back

[trickybilly]

Great to have Jae back

He presents such a vast array of threats on the offensive end, whilst being unassuming. He is above average at almost everything - slashing, shooting, off-ball stuff. His defence does not warrant conversation anymore: he is elite.

[alewilliam789]

Guess it was a good day for Horford's son to be born because we easily beat this Heat team. Definitely are going to need him against the Pistons Wednesday though

[alldaboston]

Guess it was a good day for Horford's son to be born because we easily beat this Heat team. Definitely are going to need him against the Pistons Wednesday though

daughter*, but yep. agree. this was the best game that Horford could have missed.

[Quetzalcoatl]

Great to have Jae back

He presents such a vast array of threats on the offensive end, whilst being unassuming. He is above average at almost everything - slashing, shooting, off-ball stuff. His defence does not warrant conversation anymore: he is elite.

Being average at everything in basketball is super underrated.  If they guard you too close because of your shot, you drive on them.  If they give you space to guard your drive, you shoot a j in their face before they can recover.  The advantage your defender is giving you makes up for your lack of "eliteness."  That is how the game is supposed to be played.

[Celtics4ever]

KO needs  to step up and play like this every game.

[Tr1boy]

IT -- 23 points on 23 shots  including 7 FTs.  very definition of a gunner.

I just dislike 6-20...guys standing around...everytime he passes the ball to someone, he wants it back RIGHT away.... 

He thinks he is iverson or Kobe....    but he is shooting at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line

Many mediocre nba players can avg 20 plus points if they had the green light to chuck up 20 shots and was allowed to shoot at those low fg percentages

I dislike "hot dog" basketball

Whats his true shooting percentage at? Isn't that what really matters

IT is 76th or 77th in the tsp ranking

Is this considered a good thing?

In comparison Crowder is like in the top 15

[mef730]

I for one would like to send Al my most heartfelt congratulations on the sex.

Catching up on this thread. Delayed TP for a good laugh.

Mike