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Re: Celtics (9-7) at Heat (5-11) Game #17 11/28/16
« Reply #285 on: November 28, 2016, 10:06:01 PM »

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Good game

Jaylen wasnt great tonight but you cant have it all

Didn't get any time or any touches in the post.

Re: Celtics (9-7) at Heat (5-11) Game #17 11/28/16
« Reply #286 on: November 28, 2016, 10:06:25 PM »

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IT -- 23 points on 23 shots  including 7 FTs.  very definition of a gunner.

I just dislike 6-20...guys standing around...everytime he passes the ball to someone, he wants it back RIGHT away.... 

He thinks he is iverson or Kobe....    but he is shooting at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line

Many mediocre nba players can avg 20 plus points if they had the green light to chuck up 20 shots and was allowed to shoot at those low fg percentages

I dislike "hot dog" basketball
Whats his true shooting percentage at? Isn't that what really matters

no...  those "side" stats can't help you if you shoot at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line...

7-23...  at least 5-7 shots could have made by other players.... IT could of made a conscious effort to drive and kick

Re: Celtics (9-7) at Heat (5-11) Game #17 11/28/16
« Reply #287 on: November 28, 2016, 10:08:07 PM »

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IT -- 23 points on 23 shots  including 7 FTs.  very definition of a gunner.

I just dislike 6-20...guys standing around...everytime he passes the ball to someone, he wants it back RIGHT away.... 

He thinks he is iverson or Kobe....    but he is shooting at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line

Many mediocre nba players can avg 20 plus points if they had the green light to chuck up 20 shots and was allowed to shoot at those low fg percentages

I dislike "hot dog" basketball
Whats his true shooting percentage at? Isn't that what really matters

no...  those "side" stats can't help you if you shoot at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line...

7-23...  at least 5-7 shots could have made by other players.... IT could of made a conscious effort to drive and kick

He had 8 assists...

Re: Celtics (9-7) at Heat (5-11) Game #17 11/28/16
« Reply #288 on: November 28, 2016, 10:09:57 PM »

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IT -- 23 points on 23 shots  including 7 FTs.  very definition of a gunner.

I just dislike 6-20...guys standing around...everytime he passes the ball to someone, he wants it back RIGHT away.... 

He thinks he is iverson or Kobe....    but he is shooting at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line

Many mediocre nba players can avg 20 plus points if they had the green light to chuck up 20 shots and was allowed to shoot at those low fg percentages

I dislike "hot dog" basketball
Whats his true shooting percentage at? Isn't that what really matters

no...  those "side" stats can't help you if you shoot at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line...

7-23...  at least 5-7 shots could have made by other players.... IT could of made a conscious effort to drive and kick
TS% is not a "side" stat. It's a fairly good estimate of points per possession and Thomas is one of the most efficient players in the NBA.

Re: Celtics (9-7) at Heat (5-11) Game #17 11/28/16
« Reply #289 on: November 28, 2016, 10:12:13 PM »

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IT -- 23 points on 23 shots  including 7 FTs.  very definition of a gunner.

I just dislike 6-20...guys standing around...everytime he passes the ball to someone, he wants it back RIGHT away.... 

He thinks he is iverson or Kobe....    but he is shooting at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line

Many mediocre nba players can avg 20 plus points if they had the green light to chuck up 20 shots and was allowed to shoot at those low fg percentages

I dislike "hot dog" basketball
I agree.  I'm not in love with him as a player nor as the face of the franchise.  should be used in a Vinnie Johnson role to score off the bench.  thing is, we need a legit starting quality pg to start in his place.  Smart and Rozier aren't ready to do that.

exactly ...... bottom line is IT any opportunity or has some room, will try to score....  that is why I see CBS trying to always have KO or Horford out there with IT , to be the de facto PG out on the floor.... or else IT would launch 30 shots...




Re: Celtics (9-7) at Heat (5-11) Game #17 11/28/16
« Reply #290 on: November 28, 2016, 10:13:01 PM »

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IT had his moments, but tonight was not his best night. We need Horford back so he can trust for his teammates on the floor can increase.

Overall, a win is a win, but pretty underwhelming (especially 2nd half).

Re: Celtics (9-7) at Heat (5-11) Game #17 11/28/16
« Reply #291 on: November 28, 2016, 10:13:20 PM »

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IT -- 23 points on 23 shots  including 7 FTs.  very definition of a gunner.

I just dislike 6-20...guys standing around...everytime he passes the ball to someone, he wants it back RIGHT away.... 

He thinks he is iverson or Kobe....    but he is shooting at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line

Many mediocre nba players can avg 20 plus points if they had the green light to chuck up 20 shots and was allowed to shoot at those low fg percentages

I dislike "hot dog" basketball
Whats his true shooting percentage at? Isn't that what really matters

no...  those "side" stats can't help you if you shoot at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line...

7-23...  at least 5-7 shots could have made by other players.... IT could of made a conscious effort to drive and kick
TS% is not a "side" stat. It's a fairly good estimate of points per possession and Thomas is one of the most efficient players in the NBA.
Thank you. It's even more impressive that he's able to be so efficient off the dribble so much. He's not a player relying on others to get open.

You can only do so much with Avery Bradleys and Crowders. You need guys like IT who can devastate a defense and cause it to fold down.

Re: Celtics (9-7) at Heat (5-11) Game #17 11/28/16
« Reply #292 on: November 28, 2016, 10:13:28 PM »

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IT -- 23 points on 23 shots  including 7 FTs.  very definition of a gunner.

I just dislike 6-20...guys standing around...everytime he passes the ball to someone, he wants it back RIGHT away.... 

He thinks he is iverson or Kobe....    but he is shooting at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line

Many mediocre nba players can avg 20 plus points if they had the green light to chuck up 20 shots and was allowed to shoot at those low fg percentages

I dislike "hot dog" basketball
Whats his true shooting percentage at? Isn't that what really matters

no...  those "side" stats can't help you if you shoot at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line...

7-23...  at least 5-7 shots could have made by other players.... IT could of made a conscious effort to drive and kick

He had 8 assists...

8 assist is not enough... why doesn't he have 15 assist games?/  like tonight

instead of wanting to "pad" scoring stat.... drive and kick

Re: Celtics (9-7) at Heat (5-11) Game #17 11/28/16
« Reply #293 on: November 28, 2016, 10:16:27 PM »

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IT -- 23 points on 23 shots  including 7 FTs.  very definition of a gunner.

I just dislike 6-20...guys standing around...everytime he passes the ball to someone, he wants it back RIGHT away.... 

He thinks he is iverson or Kobe....    but he is shooting at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line

Many mediocre nba players can avg 20 plus points if they had the green light to chuck up 20 shots and was allowed to shoot at those low fg percentages

I dislike "hot dog" basketball
Whats his true shooting percentage at? Isn't that what really matters

no...  those "side" stats can't help you if you shoot at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line...

7-23...  at least 5-7 shots could have made by other players.... IT could of made a conscious effort to drive and kick
TS% is not a "side" stat. It's a fairly good estimate of points per possession and Thomas is one of the most efficient players in the NBA.

i disagree...    IT is considered somewhat efficient bc he gets to the FT line

but he can be better at non FT line shooting..... 

I have yet to see him go 8-10,  10-12, 15-17 .....  its always 7-22, 7-18,  6-20  etc.

He could do better


Re: Celtics (9-7) at Heat (5-11) Game #17 11/28/16
« Reply #294 on: November 28, 2016, 10:19:28 PM »

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IT -- 23 points on 23 shots  including 7 FTs.  very definition of a gunner.

I just dislike 6-20...guys standing around...everytime he passes the ball to someone, he wants it back RIGHT away.... 

He thinks he is iverson or Kobe....    but he is shooting at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line

Many mediocre nba players can avg 20 plus points if they had the green light to chuck up 20 shots and was allowed to shoot at those low fg percentages

I dislike "hot dog" basketball
Whats his true shooting percentage at? Isn't that what really matters

no...  those "side" stats can't help you if you shoot at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line...

7-23...  at least 5-7 shots could have made by other players.... IT could of made a conscious effort to drive and kick
TS% is not a "side" stat. It's a fairly good estimate of points per possession and Thomas is one of the most efficient players in the NBA.

i disagree...    IT is considered somewhat efficient bc he gets to the FT line

but he can be better at non FT line shooting..... 

I have yet to see him go 8-10,  10-12, 15-17 .....  its always 7-22, 7-18,  6-20  etc.

He could do better
he is shooting 43% from the field so your examples of 31%, 39% 30% are misleading.

Re: Celtics (9-7) at Heat (5-11) Game #17 11/28/16
« Reply #295 on: November 28, 2016, 10:21:50 PM »

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IT -- 23 points on 23 shots  including 7 FTs.  very definition of a gunner.

I just dislike 6-20...guys standing around...everytime he passes the ball to someone, he wants it back RIGHT away.... 

He thinks he is iverson or Kobe....    but he is shooting at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line

Many mediocre nba players can avg 20 plus points if they had the green light to chuck up 20 shots and was allowed to shoot at those low fg percentages

I dislike "hot dog" basketball
Whats his true shooting percentage at? Isn't that what really matters

no...  those "side" stats can't help you if you shoot at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line...

7-23...  at least 5-7 shots could have made by other players.... IT could of made a conscious effort to drive and kick

Is Rondo retroactively growing on you, Triboy?

Next thing you know LarBrd is gonna tell us Embiid is overrated.

Re: Celtics (9-7) at Heat (5-11) Game #17 11/28/16
« Reply #296 on: November 28, 2016, 10:22:00 PM »

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IT -- 23 points on 23 shots  including 7 FTs.  very definition of a gunner.

I just dislike 6-20...guys standing around...everytime he passes the ball to someone, he wants it back RIGHT away.... 

He thinks he is iverson or Kobe....    but he is shooting at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line

Many mediocre nba players can avg 20 plus points if they had the green light to chuck up 20 shots and was allowed to shoot at those low fg percentages

I dislike "hot dog" basketball
Whats his true shooting percentage at? Isn't that what really matters

no...  those "side" stats can't help you if you shoot at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line...

7-23...  at least 5-7 shots could have made by other players.... IT could of made a conscious effort to drive and kick
TS% is not a "side" stat. It's a fairly good estimate of points per possession and Thomas is one of the most efficient players in the NBA.
Thank you. It's even more impressive that he's able to be so efficient off the dribble so much. He's not a player relying on others to get open.

You can only do so much with Avery Bradleys and Crowders. You need guys like IT who can devastate a defense and cause it to fold down.

yes but do it more efficiently

he is doing 3-9 on avg at the 3 pt line....   at least 2 every game are ill advised...what for??

if you are feeling hot, fine...but why chuck up 2-3 ill advised 3 for nothing? you rarely get those in

its the same crap Antoine Walker pulled during his time here

Listen I like IT but he is taking things a little too far... he needs to tone it down just a tad

he doesn't NEED to score 25 a game... doesn't need to chuck up 5 more empty shots... pass the ball a little more...  then things would be perfect

Re: Celtics (9-7) at Heat (5-11) Game #17 11/28/16
« Reply #297 on: November 28, 2016, 10:23:18 PM »

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IT -- 23 points on 23 shots  including 7 FTs.  very definition of a gunner.

I just dislike 6-20...guys standing around...everytime he passes the ball to someone, he wants it back RIGHT away.... 

He thinks he is iverson or Kobe....    but he is shooting at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line

Many mediocre nba players can avg 20 plus points if they had the green light to chuck up 20 shots and was allowed to shoot at those low fg percentages

I dislike "hot dog" basketball
Whats his true shooting percentage at? Isn't that what really matters

no...  those "side" stats can't help you if you shoot at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line...

7-23...  at least 5-7 shots could have made by other players.... IT could of made a conscious effort to drive and kick
TS% is not a "side" stat. It's a fairly good estimate of points per possession and Thomas is one of the most efficient players in the NBA.

i disagree...    IT is considered somewhat efficient bc he gets to the FT line

but he can be better at non FT line shooting..... 

I have yet to see him go 8-10,  10-12, 15-17 .....  its always 7-22, 7-18,  6-20  etc.

He could do better
he is shooting 43% from the field so your examples of 31%, 39% 30% are misleading.

after tonight it prob dropped to 41 percent ... 7-23 = way too many shots missed. unacceptable

Re: Celtics (9-7) at Heat (5-11) Game #17 11/28/16
« Reply #298 on: November 28, 2016, 10:23:24 PM »

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IT -- 23 points on 23 shots  including 7 FTs.  very definition of a gunner.

I just dislike 6-20...guys standing around...everytime he passes the ball to someone, he wants it back RIGHT away.... 

He thinks he is iverson or Kobe....    but he is shooting at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line

Many mediocre nba players can avg 20 plus points if they had the green light to chuck up 20 shots and was allowed to shoot at those low fg percentages

I dislike "hot dog" basketball
Whats his true shooting percentage at? Isn't that what really matters

no...  those "side" stats can't help you if you shoot at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line...

7-23...  at least 5-7 shots could have made by other players.... IT could of made a conscious effort to drive and kick
TS% is not a "side" stat. It's a fairly good estimate of points per possession and Thomas is one of the most efficient players in the NBA.

i disagree...    IT is considered somewhat efficient bc he gets to the FT line

but he can be better at non FT line shooting..... 

I have yet to see him go 8-10,  10-12, 15-17 .....  its always 7-22, 7-18,  6-20  etc.

He could do better
By your standards you would be complaining if Westbrook was on our team.

Coming to that conclusion I don't see any point in entertaining you with carrying on this conversation. 

Re: Celtics (9-7) at Heat (5-11) Game #17 11/28/16
« Reply #299 on: November 28, 2016, 10:24:20 PM »

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IT -- 23 points on 23 shots  including 7 FTs.  very definition of a gunner.

I just dislike 6-20...guys standing around...everytime he passes the ball to someone, he wants it back RIGHT away.... 

He thinks he is iverson or Kobe....    but he is shooting at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line

Many mediocre nba players can avg 20 plus points if they had the green light to chuck up 20 shots and was allowed to shoot at those low fg percentages

I dislike "hot dog" basketball
Whats his true shooting percentage at? Isn't that what really matters

no...  those "side" stats can't help you if you shoot at 42 percent and 31 percent at the 3 pt line...

7-23...  at least 5-7 shots could have made by other players.... IT could of made a conscious effort to drive and kick
TS% is not a "side" stat. It's a fairly good estimate of points per possession and Thomas is one of the most efficient players in the NBA.
Thank you. It's even more impressive that he's able to be so efficient off the dribble so much. He's not a player relying on others to get open.

You can only do so much with Avery Bradleys and Crowders. You need guys like IT who can devastate a defense and cause it to fold down.

yes but do it more efficiently

he is doing 3-9 on avg at the 3 pt line....   at least 2 every game are ill advised...what for??

if you are feeling hot, fine...but why chuck up 2-3 ill advised 3 for nothing? you rarely get those in

its the same crap Antoine Walker pulled during his time here

Listen I like IT but he is taking things a little too far... he needs to tone it down just a tad

he doesn't NEED to score 25 a game... doesn't need to chuck up 5 more empty shots... pass the ball a little more...  then things would be perfect
hes doing 2.3/6.7 not 3/9 from 3.

He shoots his way out of slumps. Its a bummer and I agree with you in general, but he does deserve more latitude than anyone else on the team in this regard.