2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (We Did It Guys! Fireworks!!!)

[Ilikesports17]

Sam Amick, one of the guys who initially reported the signing, tweeted:

Gordon Hayward's agent, Mark Bartelstein, is indeed saying he hasn't made decision yet. Meanwhile, Celtics celebrating his alleged decision.

Zach Lowe retweeted, adding that he's receiving the same info.

It sounds very possible to me that Hayward told the Celtics he's coming before he told the Jazz and now it's out but Hayward/his people are denying it because they want to announce their way.

I mean, this has always been the more likely/logical scenario than numerous reputable reporters getting the same thing wrong all simultaneously.

EDIT: But at this point, he's doing more damage to himself with the cover-up than the original issue.

I don't understand how he's doing damage to himself by waiting to make the announcement his own way.

Every hour that passes frustrates the participating fan bases more and more. It also p---es off agents and free agents of players who are waiting out the Hayward decision and frustrates and hamstrings the front offices of the teams involved because not all their back up plans are willing to wait him out.

Yeah, it's frustrating for us but if it's information Hayward doesn't want public yet, that frustration isn't on him its on the reporters who are putting this stuff out there.

The frustration is still directed at him and he has the ability to stem it.


Not his fault but he knows that the longer he drags this out the worse it is for his image and reputation.

[Tr1boy]

Respected reporters like Lowe Haynes and Amick all being wrong would be unprecedented wouldn't it?

Yes. We're talking about some of the most reliable names in the business in Lowe, Mannix, and Amick.

Haynes was the 1st to post it on twitter.... so these guys prob all followed him

Haynes (his fault or not) has messed up espns credibility right now

[Ilikesports17]

Respected reporters like Lowe Haynes and Amick all being wrong would be unprecedented wouldn't it?

Yes. We're talking about some of the most reliable names in the business in Lowe, Mannix, and Amick.

Haynes was the 1st to post it on twitter.... so these guys prob all followed him

Haynes (his fault or not) has messed up espns credibility right now

Yeah but those guys are not hacks.

They wouldn't just make something up in confirmation of Haynes. They must have had actual sources confirming what Haynes said.

[chilidawg]

Respected reporters like Lowe Haynes and Amick all being wrong would be unprecedented wouldn't it?

Yes. We're talking about some of the most reliable names in the business in Lowe, Mannix, and Amick.

Haynes was the 1st to post it on twitter.... so these guys prob all followed him

Haynes (his fault or not) has messed up espns credibility right now

ESPN had credibility?

[kraidstar]

After the news and smiles my wife and daughter (who couldn't care less about Gordon Who?)  dragged my surgically repaired body for ice cream.  I return and it's back to square one?  Say it ain't so.  What happenned?

Nobody knows, complete chaos. Everyone is in the dark, and there's a good chance no decision until tomorrow.

Yep. It's starting to get a little ridiculous and frustrating.

I still think the most likely explanation is that it leaked, and Hayward's camp wanted to do a proper reveal. I just find it impossible to believe that Amick and Lowe and Mannix and Haynes and Himmelsbach and Pina were all wrong. Regardless, this whole situation has devolved into a total ****show.

I agree.

I hope Hayward realizes that, in this day and age, secrets are very hard to keep.

[max215]

Respected reporters like Lowe Haynes and Amick all being wrong would be unprecedented wouldn't it?

Yes. We're talking about some of the most reliable names in the business in Lowe, Mannix, and Amick.

Haynes was the 1st to post it on twitter.... so these guys prob all followed him

Haynes (his fault or not) has messed up espns credibility right now

Probably not, though, because guys like Lowe and Amick don't need to follow anyone; they get their own scoops.

[green_bballers13]

Waiting on JaMychal, then S&T KO + Bradley for Hayward with leftover cap room.

Please?

Isn't JaMychal going to make a lot of money? If so, I'm all set...

[Roy H.]

Respected reporters like Lowe Haynes and Amick all being wrong would be unprecedented wouldn't it?

Yes. We're talking about some of the most reliable names in the business in Lowe, Mannix, and Amick.

Haynes was the 1st to post it on twitter.... so these guys prob all followed him

Haynes (his fault or not) has messed up espns credibility right now

Why? His report could be 100% accurate.

[jpotter33]

Sam Amick, one of the guys who initially reported the signing, tweeted:

Gordon Hayward's agent, Mark Bartelstein, is indeed saying he hasn't made decision yet. Meanwhile, Celtics celebrating his alleged decision.

Zach Lowe retweeted, adding that he's receiving the same info.

It sounds very possible to me that Hayward told the Celtics he's coming before he told the Jazz and now it's out but Hayward/his people are denying it because they want to announce their way.

I mean, this has always been the more likely/logical scenario than numerous reputable reporters getting the same thing wrong all simultaneously.

EDIT: But at this point, he's doing more damage to himself with the cover-up than the original issue.

I don't understand how he's doing damage to himself by waiting to make the announcement his own way.

Every hour that passes frustrates the participating fan bases more and more. It also p---es off agents and free agents of players who are waiting out the Hayward decision and frustrates and hamstrings the front offices of the teams involved because not all their back up plans are willing to wait him out.

This is the big one, imo. The fanbases are whatever, but I think this is really frustrating the rest of the parties involved in free agency who are all waiting on his decision.

I don't get that at all. Why is Hayward not allowed to take, like, 3 hours and make the announcement the way he wants to? It's his life.

There's already been reliable reports that other free agents, agents, and teams are frustrated with this stalling by the Hayward camp.

But he's had 4 days now to make this decision. I think people don't think he really has the status of a KD/Lebron type to drag it out this long. Even KD's decision came earlier than this one by about 5 hours so far on the fourth day.

[celticinorlando]

Haynes was first but every one of those other said they independently confirmed it with league sources

[Ilikesports17]

Sam Amick, one of the guys who initially reported the signing, tweeted:

Gordon Hayward's agent, Mark Bartelstein, is indeed saying he hasn't made decision yet. Meanwhile, Celtics celebrating his alleged decision.

Zach Lowe retweeted, adding that he's receiving the same info.

It sounds very possible to me that Hayward told the Celtics he's coming before he told the Jazz and now it's out but Hayward/his people are denying it because they want to announce their way.

I mean, this has always been the more likely/logical scenario than numerous reputable reporters getting the same thing wrong all simultaneously.

EDIT: But at this point, he's doing more damage to himself with the cover-up than the original issue.

I don't understand how he's doing damage to himself by waiting to make the announcement his own way.

Every hour that passes frustrates the participating fan bases more and more. It also p---es off agents and free agents of players who are waiting out the Hayward decision and frustrates and hamstrings the front offices of the teams involved because not all their back up plans are willing to wait him out.

This is the big one, imo. The fanbases are whatever, but I think this is really frustrating the rest of the parties involved in free agency who are all waiting on his decision.

I don't get that at all. Why is Hayward not allowed to take, like, 3 hours and make the announcement the way he wants to? It's his life.

There's already been reliable reports that other free agents, agents, and teams are frustrated with this stalling by the Hayward camp.

But he's had 4 days now to make this decision. I think people don't think he really has the status of a KD/Lebron type to drag it out this long. Even KD's decision came earlier than this one by about 5 hours so far on the fourth day.

And KD met with twice as many teams.

[Mike Pemulis]

GH should be p---ed at his trainer, hopefully not at the Celtics. This sucks. He could've been minutes away. ESPN's tinkering. Who is the mole? Lifshatz? Riley? Embiid?

[RJ87]

Sam Amick, one of the guys who initially reported the signing, tweeted:

Gordon Hayward's agent, Mark Bartelstein, is indeed saying he hasn't made decision yet. Meanwhile, Celtics celebrating his alleged decision.

Zach Lowe retweeted, adding that he's receiving the same info.

It sounds very possible to me that Hayward told the Celtics he's coming before he told the Jazz and now it's out but Hayward/his people are denying it because they want to announce their way.

I mean, this has always been the more likely/logical scenario than numerous reputable reporters getting the same thing wrong all simultaneously.

EDIT: But at this point, he's doing more damage to himself with the cover-up than the original issue.

I don't understand how he's doing damage to himself by waiting to make the announcement his own way.

Every hour that passes frustrates the participating fan bases more and more. It also p---es off agents and free agents of players who are waiting out the Hayward decision and frustrates and hamstrings the front offices of the teams involved because not all their back up plans are willing to wait him out.

Yeah, it's frustrating for us but if it's information Hayward doesn't want public yet, that frustration isn't on him its on the reporters who are putting this stuff out there.

The frustration is still directed at him and he has the ability to stem it.


Not his fault but he knows that the longer he drags this out the worse it is for his image and reputation.

Agreed. If he's really not resigning in Utah then's he's ripping their hearts out, giving them a glimmer of hope, just to rip out their hearts again. That's brutal and unnecessary. The only way this salvages his rep is if he stays.

Now, I'm not saying that's what I think is happening. But I don't understand the thought process that walking it back and trying to save the announcement to do on his own terms is logical or a good PR move.

[kraidstar]

I wouldn't be surprised if Pat Riley is the one who leaked this , to cause this mess

He is the ultimate troll, I wouldn't be surprised at all.

[jpotter33]

https://twitter.com/tribjazz?lang=en

Can concur. Several agents have said this to me

Fellow NBA free agents are annoyed by this Gordon Hayward mess. They've been waiting on the GH domino to fall, and now it's being drawn out.

Yeah, now the Jazz's most reliable reporter is even corroborating Kennedy's report about other agents, players, and teams getting frustrated about this whole Hayward situation.