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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Meeting With Boston Over)
« Reply #615 on: July 03, 2017, 12:58:50 AM »

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Nothing leaking out other than the usual 'meeting went well' which has come out of Miami and now here.  (don't they always 'go well'?).
that's what I thought but I got curious and researched the topic and found that the fakers meeting 2 years ago with lamarcus alridge went terrible lol

https://twitter.com/Mike_Bresnahan/status/616344498944151553

He didnt like the basketball portion haha

Oh yeah, the infamous Aldridge meeting, where the Lakers were like "It's great to be a star in LA. Let's show you the sights and celebrities."  LMA is like, "Um, basketball?"  And the Lakers said "Ah, yeah, that thing on the court.  Here are all the big names sitting courtside."

(Not an actual transcription -- just how I imagined it in my head."
and then they told him he's contractually obligated to pass the ball to Kobe every time. Lol

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Meeting With Boston Over)
« Reply #616 on: July 03, 2017, 01:00:46 AM »

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Honestly, I hope the pitch to Hayward involved some kind of offer of proof on Ainge's part to explain how they're gonna add another piece.

Seems to me that's what these stars want to hear.  If you can't offer the most $$, you need to explain how you can offer them a fantastic winning situation like what Golden State offered Durant.

If Hayward joins the Celts as constructed, they will be the clear cut #2 team in the East with a chance to actually challenge Cleveland in the playoffs.  That's nice, but it's not so much better than what he has in Utah.

Can Ainge grab another star after adding Hayward?  Who is left at this point?
While I agree in principle, I am not sure how either Miami or Utah could trump Boston on this point.
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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Meeting With Boston Over)
« Reply #617 on: July 03, 2017, 01:04:07 AM »

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Honestly, I hope the pitch to Hayward involved some kind of offer of proof on Ainge's part to explain how they're gonna add another piece.

Seems to me that's what these stars want to hear.  If you can't offer the most $$, you need to explain how you can offer them a fantastic winning situation like what Golden State offered Durant.

If Hayward joins the Celts as constructed, they will be the clear cut #2 team in the East with a chance to actually challenge Cleveland in the playoffs.  That's nice, but it's not so much better than what he has in Utah.

Can Ainge grab another star after adding Hayward?  Who is left at this point?

We may not be far off from AD being available if things sour in New Orleans. If Boogie leaves next summer, that franchise is in shambles. As long as Boogie's departure spells the end for Dell Demps, it'll be safe to assume that AD will be on the table for the right offer. Does Jaylen, Jayson, 2018 BKN, 2018/19 LAL/SAC, and 2019 Memphis get it done? I think there's a real chance. Does a lot need to go right for this to happen? Sure, but it's certainly possible.
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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Meeting With Boston Over)
« Reply #618 on: July 03, 2017, 01:05:05 AM »

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Honestly, I hope the pitch to Hayward involved some kind of offer of proof on Ainge's part to explain how they're gonna add another piece.

Seems to me that's what these stars want to hear.  If you can't offer the most $$, you need to explain how you can offer them a fantastic winning situation like what Golden State offered Durant.

If Hayward joins the Celts as constructed, they will be the clear cut #2 team in the East with a chance to actually challenge Cleveland in the playoffs.  That's nice, but it's not so much better than what he has in Utah.

Can Ainge grab another star after adding Hayward?  Who is left at this point?

I'd assume that isn't necessary in this situation for several reasons: Utah is at a dead end; Celtics are fleeced with pics; Hayward is still young; There's opportunity to win now (at least ECF, for now), and multiple top draft picks developing during through his contract.  This should be a no-brainer for him, unless he's a) dumb or b) controlled by his wife (completely understandable).
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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Meeting With Boston Over)
« Reply #619 on: July 03, 2017, 01:05:13 AM »

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Can someone remind me how it went down with Al last year.  Were we the last meeting and he decided shortly after?  Or did he meet with others after?

Trying to wrap my mind around the idea that Hayward would meet with the jazz and then turn around and pick the Celts.

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« Reply #620 on: July 03, 2017, 01:08:13 AM »

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Honestly, I hope the pitch to Hayward involved some kind of offer of proof on Ainge's part to explain how they're gonna add another piece.

Seems to me that's what these stars want to hear.  If you can't offer the most $$, you need to explain how you can offer them a fantastic winning situation like what Golden State offered Durant.

If Hayward joins the Celts as constructed, they will be the clear cut #2 team in the East with a chance to actually challenge Cleveland in the playoffs.  That's nice, but it's not so much better than what he has in Utah.

Can Ainge grab another star after adding Hayward?  Who is left at this point?
While I agree in principle, I am not sure how either Miami or Utah could trump Boston on this point.


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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Meeting With Boston Over)
« Reply #621 on: July 03, 2017, 01:13:23 AM »

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Can someone remind me how it went down with Al last year.  Were we the last meeting and he decided shortly after?  Or did he meet with others after?

Trying to wrap my mind around the idea that Hayward would meet with the jazz and then turn around and pick the Celts.
Horford agreed rather quickly in order to convince KD to come to Boston.

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« Reply #622 on: July 03, 2017, 01:18:17 AM »

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Can someone remind me how it went down with Al last year.  Were we the last meeting and he decided shortly after?  Or did he meet with others after?

Trying to wrap my mind around the idea that Hayward would meet with the jazz and then turn around and pick the Celts.

He gave Atlanta the final pitch.  I believe we were second to meet after Washington, but maybe we were first.  But Atlanta was last.

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« Reply #623 on: July 03, 2017, 01:20:56 AM »

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Honestly, I hope the pitch to Hayward involved some kind of offer of proof on Ainge's part to explain how they're gonna add another piece.

Seems to me that's what these stars want to hear.  If you can't offer the most $$, you need to explain how you can offer them a fantastic winning situation like what Golden State offered Durant.

If Hayward joins the Celts as constructed, they will be the clear cut #2 team in the East with a chance to actually challenge Cleveland in the playoffs.  That's nice, but it's not so much better than what he has in Utah.

Can Ainge grab another star after adding Hayward?  Who is left at this point?

We may not be far off from AD being available if things sour in New Orleans. If Boogie leaves next summer, that franchise is in shambles. As long as Boogie's departure spells the end for Dell Demps, it'll be safe to assume that AD will be on the table for the right offer. Does Jaylen, Jayson, 2018 BKN, 2018/19 LAL/SAC, and 2019 Memphis get it done? I think there's a real chance. Does a lot need to go right for this to happen? Sure, but it's certainly possible.
Not happening, but trading everything of value we have for AD makes no sense. We've already seen that AD alone can't even get a team to the playoffs.

There is no win now scenario for the Celtics.

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Meeting With Boston Over)
« Reply #624 on: July 03, 2017, 01:29:17 AM »

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Just thinking: if Hayward calls tomorrow or Tuesday, how quickly does Danny move out salary to accommodate him?

Is there already a facilitating trade in place?

Would happily overpay for one of Denver's bigs btw..
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« Reply #625 on: July 03, 2017, 01:42:39 AM »

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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Meeting With Boston Over)
« Reply #626 on: July 03, 2017, 01:48:46 AM »

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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Meeting With Boston Over)
« Reply #627 on: July 03, 2017, 01:53:59 AM »

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Just thinking: if Hayward calls tomorrow or Tuesday, how quickly does Danny move out salary to accommodate him?

Is there already a facilitating trade in place?

Would happily overpay for one of Denver's bigs btw..

He moves pretty quickly.  Teams with cap room are dwindling, and ideally he'd get something useful back rather than doing a straight salary dump.  I'm fairly sure he's tested the waters with a few teams already.

Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Meeting With Boston Over)
« Reply #628 on: July 03, 2017, 01:57:07 AM »

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Decision could come as soon as Monday night, per Steve Bulpett.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics/2017/07/bulpett_celtics_hope_gordon_hayward_takes_their_best_pitch

My wish is to just read "Gordon Hayward agrees to 4-year, XXX million dollar max deal with the Boston Celtics" on the headlines tomorrow night.


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Re: 2016-2017 Gordon Hayward Thread (UPDATE: Meeting With Boston Over)
« Reply #629 on: July 03, 2017, 05:55:30 AM »

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Herald's article makes me feel even more that it will be Miami