Why are the Nets better then expected

[bdo3272]

Ball dont lie -  and the nets ARE better this year

coach is much better than last year. reading all about the lin/atkinson bond and development is pretty impresive. alternately i remember lionel burying his face in his hands throughout the season. he seemed ashamed of his team, as well he should be. and his players seemed disinterested in his input.  next, getting rid of players like jarret jack and joe johnson, they rid themselves of older, stat first/me first players in exchange the players they brought in are all young, hungry and never quit. as we learned last year with the celtics, sometimes just having a team that likes playing with each other, has a coach that believes in them (and vice versa) and who flat out just play balls out every night, theyre gonna win some games.. i was super hopeful for that #1 spot at the beginning of the season but im settling into more of the 4-8 range(with no, phil and pho as worse teams) if the nets stay in there current iteration, which by the way is no given.

[Denis998]

Ball dont lie -  and the nets ARE better this year

coach is much better than last year. reading all about the lin/atkinson bond and development is pretty impresive. alternately i remember lionel burying his face in his hands throughout the season. he seemed ashamed of his team, as well he should be. and his players seemed disinterested in his input.  next, getting rid of players like jarret jack and joe johnson, they rid themselves of older, stat first/me first players in exchange the players they brought in are all young, hungry and never quit. as we learned last year with the celtics, sometimes just having a team that likes playing with each other, has a coach that believes in them (and vice versa) and who flat out just play balls out every night, theyre gonna win some games.. i was super hopeful for that #1 spot at the beginning of the season but im settling into more of the 4-8 range(with no, phil and pho as worse teams) if the nets stay in there current iteration, which by the way is no given.

I think Lin is kinda of like the stat first/me first type of player. After he went down they started to win games.

[footey]

On paper they are definitely better than last year.  Agree with above poster re: Booker, and I think Lin's offensive repertoire has been underappreciated since his time in NY.  And RHJ seems to be exceeding expectations thus far, but I'm not sold on Bogdanovic sustaining his offensive output. 

If the FO is smart, they'll start a youth movement with a Lopez trade that will likely set them back this year.  And if not, while they may not net us a top 5 pick, they're still a lotto team with a strong upcoming draft.  No worries.  As saltlover pointed out, this upcoming stretch should be rough on them.

"If the front office is smart..."
Translation: " If Celtic fans ran the Nets front office..."

[celticsclay]

By the way how much worse did we expect them to be? They have had a very easy schedule and are what 4-7? I guess I would have thought that would be 3-8 and they would have not won in Phoenix. Also seems weird to write when they are coming off a 32 point loss and losing to the lakers

[tarheelsxxiii]

On paper they are definitely better than last year.  Agree with above poster re: Booker, and I think Lin's offensive repertoire has been underappreciated since his time in NY.  And RHJ seems to be exceeding expectations thus far, but I'm not sold on Bogdanovic sustaining his offensive output. 

If the FO is smart, they'll start a youth movement with a Lopez trade that will likely set them back this year.  And if not, while they may not net us a top 5 pick, they're still a lotto team with a strong upcoming draft.  No worries.  As saltlover pointed out, this upcoming stretch should be rough on them.

"If the front office is smart..."
Translation: " If Celtic fans ran the Nets front office..."

I'm biased but do believe that.  Healthy last season and has played well, but he's aging, has an injury history, and will be 30 and and UFA in '18.

But if they're more interested in filling seats, maybe that won't matter much.

[chambers]

I don't think they're better than expected.
I think they'll end up bottom 5, if Lopez is traded then they'll be a lock for bottom 3.

They haven't beaten any .500 teams yet this season.

[chambers]

They aren't.  When fully healthy they have been a borderline playoff team for 4 straight years.  Hopefully they get stung by the injury bee again.

Troll lol lol lawwwll

[LatterDayCelticsfan]

They aren't.  When fully healthy they have been a borderline playoff team for 4 straight years.  Hopefully they get stung by the injury bee again.

Discuss, considering the vast pages other forumers have invested disproving that last season in particular:
1. There win loss hardly changes within seasons due to injuries
2. They hardly suffered more injuries than is the norm for an NBA regular season
3. They have hardly had stable clear thinking management till this off season.

[LarBrd33]

They aren't.  When fully healthy they have been a borderline playoff team for 4 straight years.  Hopefully they get stung by the injury bee again.

Discuss, considering the vast pages other forumers have invested disproving that last season in particular:
1. There win loss hardly changes within seasons due to injuries
2. They hardly suffered more injuries than is the norm for an NBA regular season
3. They have hardly had stable clear thinking management till this off season.

I've already explained this at length to folks understating the catastrophic injuries the Nets faced last season, but to sum it up in short... 

In Mid-December last year, the Nets began an improbable 12 game win streak spurred in large part by the shockingly rapid development of rookie Rondae Hollis-Jefferson and the blazing hot shooting streak of Jarret Jack.  This resulted in the up-start Nets surprisingly finishing with 42 wins, narrowly making the playoffs and causing the Boston Celtics to select 15th in the 2016 NBA Draft.

But of course, you didn't see any of this... because Rondae Hollis-Jefferson's tragic injury in early December (despite the player already proving to be a defensive specialist and leading the team in both defensive and offensive rating), caused a fracture in the space time continuum and a backwards splinter universe resulting in a butterfly snowball effect in which RHJ's rapid development never happened, Jarret Jack ended up getting injured, Joe Johnson found himself cut, the Nets shockingly plummeted to a bottom 5 record, the Oklahoma City Thunder choked away a 3-1 lead in the WCF, the Golden State Warriors choked away a 3-1 lead in the Finals, Kevin Durant improbably joined the Warriors, the Indians choked away a 3-1 lead to the Cubs in the World Series, and Hilary Clinton choked away a 3-1 lead in the Presidential election to Donald Trump. 

As a result of the dimensional rift, many of us are now living in this cartoon alternate reality (Earth 3.1) in which Trump is President, Durant is a Warrior, The Cavs and Cubs are Champions and the Nets didn't make the playoffs for the 4th straight year.   Some of us who practice multi-dimensional astral projection, commonly known as "the see-ers", still see mirrored glimpses of our true reality in our lucid dreams and are conscious to the deja-vu-esque signs of our splinter existence.  For instance, I can ascertain that in the original version of Earth 3, the popular children's book "BerenstEin Bears" was spelled with an "E" instead of the "BerenstAin Bears" (spelled with an "A") that exists in this Hollis Jefferson injury reality fracture. 



Another popular theory as to why I'm aware of the true Brooklyn path is that when we fall asleep, our consciousness is capable of swapping places with the mirror versions of ourselves living in the splinter reality and while our memories of the previous reality SHOULD be replaced with our new existence, those of us programmed with reveries are capable of tapping into our memories of both dimensions.  If you too remember growing up with BerenstEin Bears books, it's possible you are also experiencing the effects of this dimensional rift.   

That's it, in short.  I'm tired of explaining this for people.  Simple stuff, really.

[YoungOne87]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. They are about to be 4-7... which projects to a bottom 5 or 6 team. They have 1 win again a team over .500, the Pistons. By Thanksgiving there's a good chance they'll be 4-10, maybe 5-9.

All this while being healthy. If anyone gets hurt, their bench is horrid.

Sure they are capable of winning 30-40 games if everything breaks right, but they're not even on pace for that.

Lin who played pretty well is already hurt.

[celticsclay]

They aren't.  When fully healthy they have been a borderline playoff team for 4 straight years.  Hopefully they get stung by the injury bee again.

Discuss, considering the vast pages other forumers have invested disproving that last season in particular:
1. There win loss hardly changes within seasons due to injuries
2. They hardly suffered more injuries than is the norm for an NBA regular season
3. They have hardly had stable clear thinking management till this off season.

I've already explained this at length to folks understating the catastrophic injuries the Nets faced last season, but to sum it up in short... 

In Mid-December last year, the Nets began an improbable 12 game win streak spurred in large part by the shockingly rapid development of rookie Rondae Hollis-Jefferson and the blazing hot shooting streak of Jarret Jack.  This resulted in the up-start Nets surprisingly finishing with 42 wins, narrowly making the playoffs and causing the Boston Celtics to select 15th in the 2016 NBA Draft.

But of course, you didn't see any of this... because Rondae Hollis-Jefferson's tragic injury in early December (despite the player already proving to be a defensive specialist and leading the team in both defensive and offensive rating), caused a fracture in the space time continuum and a backwards splinter universe resulting in a butterfly snowball effect in which RHJ's rapid development never happened, Jarret Jack ended up getting injured, Joe Johnson found himself cut, the Nets shockingly plummeted to a bottom 5 record, the Oklahoma City Thunder choked away a 3-1 lead in the WCF, the Golden State Warriors choked away a 3-1 lead in the Finals, Kevin Durant improbably joined the Warriors, the Indians choked away a 3-1 lead to the Cubs in the World Series, and Hilary Clinton choked away a 3-1 lead in the Presidential election to Donald Trump. 

As a result of the dimensional rift, many of us are now living in this cartoon alternate reality (Earth 3.1) in which Trump is President, Durant is a Warrior, The Cavs and Cubs are Champions and the Nets didn't make the playoffs for the 4th straight year.   Some of us who practice multi-dimensional astral projection, commonly known as "the see-ers", still see mirrored glimpses of our true reality in our lucid dreams and are conscious to the deja-vu-esque signs of our splinter existence.  For instance, I can ascertain that in the original version of Earth 3, the popular children's book "BerenstEin Bears" was spelled with an "E" instead of the "BerenstAin Bears" (spelled with an "A") that exists in this Hollis Jefferson injury reality fracture. 



Another popular theory as to why I'm aware of the true Brooklyn path is that when we fall asleep, our consciousness is capable of swapping places with the mirror versions of ourselves living in the splinter reality and while our memories of the previous reality SHOULD be replaced with our new existence, those of us programmed with reveries are capable of tapping into our memories of both dimensions.  If you too remember growing up with BerenstEin Bears books, it's possible you are also experiencing the effects of this dimensional rift.   

That's it, in short.  I'm tired of explaining this for people.  Simple stuff, really.

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[tankcity!]

They aren't.  When fully healthy they have been a borderline playoff team for 4 straight years.  Hopefully they get stung by the injury bee again.

Discuss, considering the vast pages other forumers have invested disproving that last season in particular:
1. There win loss hardly changes within seasons due to injuries
2. They hardly suffered more injuries than is the norm for an NBA regular season
3. They have hardly had stable clear thinking management till this off season.

I've already explained this at length to folks understating the catastrophic injuries the Nets faced last season, but to sum it up in short... 

In Mid-December last year, the Nets began an improbable 12 game win streak spurred in large part by the shockingly rapid development of rookie Rondae Hollis-Jefferson and the blazing hot shooting streak of Jarret Jack.  This resulted in the up-start Nets surprisingly finishing with 42 wins, narrowly making the playoffs and causing the Boston Celtics to select 15th in the 2016 NBA Draft.

But of course, you didn't see any of this... because Rondae Hollis-Jefferson's tragic injury in early December (despite the player already proving to be a defensive specialist and leading the team in both defensive and offensive rating), caused a fracture in the space time continuum and a backwards splinter universe resulting in a butterfly snowball effect in which RHJ's rapid development never happened, Jarret Jack ended up getting injured, Joe Johnson found himself cut, the Nets shockingly plummeted to a bottom 5 record, the Oklahoma City Thunder choked away a 3-1 lead in the WCF, the Golden State Warriors choked away a 3-1 lead in the Finals, Kevin Durant improbably joined the Warriors, the Indians choked away a 3-1 lead to the Cubs in the World Series, and Hilary Clinton choked away a 3-1 lead in the Presidential election to Donald Trump. 

As a result of the dimensional rift, many of us are now living in this cartoon alternate reality (Earth 3.1) in which Trump is President, Durant is a Warrior, The Cavs and Cubs are Champions and the Nets didn't make the playoffs for the 4th straight year.   Some of us who practice multi-dimensional astral projection, commonly known as "the see-ers", still see mirrored glimpses of our true reality in our lucid dreams and are conscious to the deja-vu-esque signs of our splinter existence.  For instance, I can ascertain that in the original version of Earth 3, the popular children's book "BerenstEin Bears" was spelled with an "E" instead of the "BerenstAin Bears" (spelled with an "A") that exists in this Hollis Jefferson injury reality fracture. 



Another popular theory as to why I'm aware of the true Brooklyn path is that when we fall asleep, our consciousness is capable of swapping places with the mirror versions of ourselves living in the splinter reality and while our memories of the previous reality SHOULD be replaced with our new existence, those of us programmed with reveries are capable of tapping into our memories of both dimensions.  If you too remember growing up with BerenstEin Bears books, it's possible you are also experiencing the effects of this dimensional rift.   

That's it, in short.  I'm tired of explaining this for people.  Simple stuff, really.

I disagree. Majority disagrees with you as well. You sounds like Skip Bayless picking at small things to make your point, even though it doesn't swing your point one way or the other. Popular vote wins. You were wrong. Sometimes it happens. Time to get over it.

[alldaboston]

They aren't.  When fully healthy they have been a borderline playoff team for 4 straight years.  Hopefully they get stung by the injury bee again.

Discuss, considering the vast pages other forumers have invested disproving that last season in particular:
1. There win loss hardly changes within seasons due to injuries
2. They hardly suffered more injuries than is the norm for an NBA regular season
3. They have hardly had stable clear thinking management till this off season.

I've already explained this at length to folks understating the catastrophic injuries the Nets faced last season, but to sum it up in short... 

In Mid-December last year, the Nets began an improbable 12 game win streak spurred in large part by the shockingly rapid development of rookie Rondae Hollis-Jefferson and the blazing hot shooting streak of Jarret Jack.  This resulted in the up-start Nets surprisingly finishing with 42 wins, narrowly making the playoffs and causing the Boston Celtics to select 15th in the 2016 NBA Draft.

But of course, you didn't see any of this... because Rondae Hollis-Jefferson's tragic injury in early December (despite the player already proving to be a defensive specialist and leading the team in both defensive and offensive rating), caused a fracture in the space time continuum and a backwards splinter universe resulting in a butterfly snowball effect in which RHJ's rapid development never happened, Jarret Jack ended up getting injured, Joe Johnson found himself cut, the Nets shockingly plummeted to a bottom 5 record, the Oklahoma City Thunder choked away a 3-1 lead in the WCF, the Golden State Warriors choked away a 3-1 lead in the Finals, Kevin Durant improbably joined the Warriors, the Indians choked away a 3-1 lead to the Cubs in the World Series, and Hilary Clinton choked away a 3-1 lead in the Presidential election to Donald Trump. 

As a result of the dimensional rift, many of us are now living in this cartoon alternate reality (Earth 3.1) in which Trump is President, Durant is a Warrior, The Cavs and Cubs are Champions and the Nets didn't make the playoffs for the 4th straight year.   Some of us who practice multi-dimensional astral projection, commonly known as "the see-ers", still see mirrored glimpses of our true reality in our lucid dreams and are conscious to the deja-vu-esque signs of our splinter existence.  For instance, I can ascertain that in the original version of Earth 3, the popular children's book "BerenstEin Bears" was spelled with an "E" instead of the "BerenstAin Bears" (spelled with an "A") that exists in this Hollis Jefferson injury reality fracture. 



Another popular theory as to why I'm aware of the true Brooklyn path is that when we fall asleep, our consciousness is capable of swapping places with the mirror versions of ourselves living in the splinter reality and while our memories of the previous reality SHOULD be replaced with our new existence, those of us programmed with reveries are capable of tapping into our memories of both dimensions.  If you too remember growing up with BerenstEin Bears books, it's possible you are also experiencing the effects of this dimensional rift.   

That's it, in short.  I'm tired of explaining this for people.  Simple stuff, really.

This, my friends, is how you effectively end a thread. Well done Lar.

[BitterJim]

They aren't.  When fully healthy they have been a borderline playoff team for 4 straight years.  Hopefully they get stung by the injury bee again.

Discuss, considering the vast pages other forumers have invested disproving that last season in particular:
1. There win loss hardly changes within seasons due to injuries
2. They hardly suffered more injuries than is the norm for an NBA regular season
3. They have hardly had stable clear thinking management till this off season.

I've already explained this at length to folks understating the catastrophic injuries the Nets faced last season, but to sum it up in short... 

In Mid-December last year, the Nets began an improbable 12 game win streak spurred in large part by the shockingly rapid development of rookie Rondae Hollis-Jefferson and the blazing hot shooting streak of Jarret Jack.  This resulted in the up-start Nets surprisingly finishing with 42 wins, narrowly making the playoffs and causing the Boston Celtics to select 15th in the 2016 NBA Draft.

But of course, you didn't see any of this... because Rondae Hollis-Jefferson's tragic injury in early December (despite the player already proving to be a defensive specialist and leading the team in both defensive and offensive rating), caused a fracture in the space time continuum and a backwards splinter universe resulting in a butterfly snowball effect in which RHJ's rapid development never happened, Jarret Jack ended up getting injured, Joe Johnson found himself cut, the Nets shockingly plummeted to a bottom 5 record, the Oklahoma City Thunder choked away a 3-1 lead in the WCF, the Golden State Warriors choked away a 3-1 lead in the Finals, Kevin Durant improbably joined the Warriors, the Indians choked away a 3-1 lead to the Cubs in the World Series, and Hilary Clinton choked away a 3-1 lead in the Presidential election to Donald Trump. 

As a result of the dimensional rift, many of us are now living in this cartoon alternate reality (Earth 3.1) in which Trump is President, Durant is a Warrior, The Cavs and Cubs are Champions and the Nets didn't make the playoffs for the 4th straight year.   Some of us who practice multi-dimensional astral projection, commonly known as "the see-ers", still see mirrored glimpses of our true reality in our lucid dreams and are conscious to the deja-vu-esque signs of our splinter existence.  For instance, I can ascertain that in the original version of Earth 3, the popular children's book "BerenstEin Bears" was spelled with an "E" instead of the "BerenstAin Bears" (spelled with an "A") that exists in this Hollis Jefferson injury reality fracture. 



Another popular theory as to why I'm aware of the true Brooklyn path is that when we fall asleep, our consciousness is capable of swapping places with the mirror versions of ourselves living in the splinter reality and while our memories of the previous reality SHOULD be replaced with our new existence, those of us programmed with reveries are capable of tapping into our memories of both dimensions.  If you too remember growing up with BerenstEin Bears books, it's possible you are also experiencing the effects of this dimensional rift.   

That's it, in short.  I'm tired of explaining this for people.  Simple stuff, really.

I disagree. Majority disagrees with you as well. You sounds like Skip Bayless picking at small things to make your point, even though it doesn't swing your point one way or the other. Popular vote wins. You were wrong. Sometimes it happens. Time to get over it.

Popular vote does not determine facts. He's either right or he's wrong, whether or not the majority agrees with him is irrelevant

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Why are they better than expected? Because Boston controls their pick. If they controlled their own pick, they'd stink. Just another example of Boston's bad lotto luck.