What's James Young's contract situation?

[NHCelticsFan]

If I remember correctly, the Celtics declined Young's fourth year option.  Does that mean James is an unrestricted free agent at the end of this season?

Would be a shame to see him turn into a decent bench player and not have him on the books for the fourth year or restricted.

[alldaboston]

He will be a UFA. And, the most we can offer him is the same amount of money that we declined on his team option for next year (i think it was 2.2 million?)

[tarheelsxxiii]

Doubt we'll even get to that point.  After tonight, I suspect if he's not starting tomorrow night in NO that he will demand a trade.  Jimmy has unfortunately gotten too big for Boston. 

[saltlover]

He will be a UFA. And, the most we can offer him is the same amount of money that we declined on his team option for next year (i think it was 2.2 million?)

You've sort of got it right.  He will be an unrestricted free agent.  He will have a cap hold of $2.8 million (that's what his declined option was.)  So, if we wanted to go over the cap to sign him (i.e. use Bird rights), that's the most we could pay him.  However, we will be under the salary cap, so if he plays well and there are not better ways to use the cap room, he could be re-signed using cap space to any amount up to the max salary.  I think we'll find better ways to use the cap space myself, but I want to clarify that we are not limited to paying him just what he would have made if we hadn't declined the option.

[saltlover]

Doubt we'll even get to that point.  After tonight, I suspect if he's not starting tomorrow night in NO that he will demand a trade.  Jimmy has unfortunately gotten too big for Boston.

Can you please tell me where to get whatever you're on? 

[tarheelsxxiii]

Doubt we'll even get to that point.  After tonight, I suspect if he's not starting tomorrow night in NO that he will demand a trade.  Jimmy has unfortunately gotten too big for Boston.

Can you please tell me where to get whatever you're on? 

Haha.  Yes, but not in writing.  Agree with others that he was fun to watch tonight, though.  Hope he continues to grow. 

[alldaboston]

He will be a UFA. And, the most we can offer him is the same amount of money that we declined on his team option for next year (i think it was 2.2 million?)

You've sort of got it right.  He will be an unrestricted free agent.  He will have a cap hold of $2.8 million (that's what his declined option was.)  So, if we wanted to go over the cap to sign him (i.e. use Bird rights), that's the most we could pay him.  However, we will be under the salary cap, so if he plays well and there are not better ways to use the cap room, he could be re-signed using cap space to any amount up to the max salary.  I think we'll find better ways to use the cap space myself, but I want to clarify that we are not limited to paying him just what he would have made if we hadn't declined the option.

Ah i see. thanks man, TP. you're like, a cap guru! i always learn something from your comments, great stuff.

[LooseCannon]

He will be a UFA. And, the most we can offer him is the same amount of money that we declined on his team option for next year (i think it was 2.2 million?)

You've sort of got it right.  He will be an unrestricted free agent.  He will have a cap hold of $2.8 million (that's what his declined option was.)  So, if we wanted to go over the cap to sign him (i.e. use Bird rights), that's the most we could pay him.  However, we will be under the salary cap, so if he plays well and there are not better ways to use the cap room, he could be re-signed using cap space to any amount up to the max salary.  I think we'll find better ways to use the cap space myself, but I want to clarify that we are not limited to paying him just what he would have made if we hadn't declined the option.

You can't sign him to more than you would have paid him if you had exercised his option.  That includes using cap room.  This is to prevent teams from getting around the rookie scale and giving a player extra money.  Other teams can sign him for the max.

[saltlover]

He will be a UFA. And, the most we can offer him is the same amount of money that we declined on his team option for next year (i think it was 2.2 million?)

You've sort of got it right.  He will be an unrestricted free agent.  He will have a cap hold of $2.8 million (that's what his declined option was.)  So, if we wanted to go over the cap to sign him (i.e. use Bird rights), that's the most we could pay him.  However, we will be under the salary cap, so if he plays well and there are not better ways to use the cap room, he could be re-signed using cap space to any amount up to the max salary.  I think we'll find better ways to use the cap space myself, but I want to clarify that we are not limited to paying him just what he would have made if we hadn't declined the option.

You can't sign him to more than you would have paid him if you had exercised his option.  That includes using cap room.  This is to prevent teams from getting around the rookie scale and giving a player extra money.  Other teams can sign him for the max.

You're right.  My mind apparently is shot this week.

[footey]

Well, if this is the case, by declining to pick up his option, we basically have decided that if he plays well, he will be gone, because he will sign with another team.  What was the point of keeping him, and then not exercising his team option? 

Was that a poor management decision or am I missing something?

[Big333223]

He will be a UFA. And, the most we can offer him is the same amount of money that we declined on his team option for next year (i think it was 2.2 million?)

You've sort of got it right.  He will be an unrestricted free agent.  He will have a cap hold of $2.8 million (that's what his declined option was.)  So, if we wanted to go over the cap to sign him (i.e. use Bird rights), that's the most we could pay him.  However, we will be under the salary cap, so if he plays well and there are not better ways to use the cap room, he could be re-signed using cap space to any amount up to the max salary.  I think we'll find better ways to use the cap space myself, but I want to clarify that we are not limited to paying him just what he would have made if we hadn't declined the option.

You can't sign him to more than you would have paid him if you had exercised his option.  That includes using cap room.  This is to prevent teams from getting around the rookie scale and giving a player extra money.  Other teams can sign him for the max.

You're right.  My mind apparently is shot this week.

But as an UFA the C's would still have the option to match, no?

[NHCelticsFan]

He will be a UFA. And, the most we can offer him is the same amount of money that we declined on his team option for next year (i think it was 2.2 million?)

You've sort of got it right.  He will be an unrestricted free agent.  He will have a cap hold of $2.8 million (that's what his declined option was.)  So, if we wanted to go over the cap to sign him (i.e. use Bird rights), that's the most we could pay him.  However, we will be under the salary cap, so if he plays well and there are not better ways to use the cap room, he could be re-signed using cap space to any amount up to the max salary.  I think we'll find better ways to use the cap space myself, but I want to clarify that we are not limited to paying him just what he would have made if we hadn't declined the option.

You can't sign him to more than you would have paid him if you had exercised his option.  That includes using cap room.  This is to prevent teams from getting around the rookie scale and giving a player extra money.  Other teams can sign him for the max.

You're right.  My mind apparently is shot this week.

But as an UFA the C's would still have the option to match, no?

No, the C's would only have the option of matching if he were a restricted free agent.

[More Banners]

Well, if this is the case, by declining to pick up his option, we basically have decided that if he plays well, he will be gone, because he will sign with another team.  What was the point of keeping him, and then not exercising his team option? 

Was that a poor management decision or am I missing something?

Pretty long shot that he becomes more that a bench role player, even if he is good enough to stick in the league. Considering the roster crunch, it doesn't strike me as a big deal. They've seen enough of him to know.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Unrestricted Free-Agent

[SHAQATTACK]

No trade clause