Author Topic: Marcus Smart so far: 13.5ppg, 3.8 rebounds, 2.5 assists. 36% 3 pt, 47% 2pfg  (Read 13100 times)

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i don't know about girth but i think i have noticed a drop off in explosiveness since ankle injury
in a coming back game he came up limping but got back in and i noticed that a second time but slighter-
if he has added bulk it will do him good on mismatches and getting over the top  and as season progresses he will probably shed any extra poundage
marcus's stats were always slanted because of last minute shots while playing with jerebko or kelly
marcus  only 22 years old and i believe his numbers and shooting were result of two serious injuries-
marcus shot 34.5% in playoffs 33.5% as rookie and 36% so far this year


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i don't know about girth but i think i have noticed a drop off in explosiveness since ankle injury
in a coming back game he came up limping but got back in and i noticed that a second time but slighter-
if he has added bulk it will do him good on mismatches and getting over the top  and as season progresses he will probably shed any extra poundage
marcus's stats were always slanted because of last minute shots while playing with jerebko or kelly
marcus  only 22 years old and i believe his numbers and shooting were result of two serious injuries-

It's still way too early to tell if his shooting has actually improved or if it's just a hot stretch, but 47% overall and 36% from 3 is a huge improvement.  If he keeps this up, the Tony Allen argument is completely moot.

That said, I don't think he's likely to keep it up, but league-average 3 point shooting certainly seems possible.  Just getting to the point where he's not a liability behind the arc would be a huge help
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What stats does Smart have to put up to be an all star? Given that this is an offense first league, but defense has to count for something. I think if he started, 17ppg, 5ast, 5reb, on 45%+ fg and 35+%3pt he should be a viable all star player. His defense is miles ahead of any other pg who makes the all star team in the East.

Granted this wont happen this year, just curious to see what people think it would take for him to get recognition.
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I love the new form on his jumpshot. So smooth. If he keeps getting reps with that, I could see his % continue to rise.

I agree with other posters that his explosiveness still seems lacking from his sprained ankle. When he goes up hard (like the other night) he can dunk it pretty explosively, but for whatever reason, other times he barely leaves the floor on drives. That seems like bad habits to me. Can it be broken?

I love when he goes into the pick and rolls and gets a defender on his hip. That is an area he can be elite in because of his size.

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Would love it if he can continue this. I've been very happy with his season thus far. Hopefully it isn't a hot streak. Hard not to consider him an elite player if he stays at this level for the rest of the year. He is very young and those are good stats for someone his age, as well as his elite defense.


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What stats does Smart have to put up to be an all star? Given that this is an offense first league, but defense has to count for something. I think if he started, 17ppg, 5ast, 5reb, on 45%+ fg and 35+%3pt he should be a viable all star player. His defense is miles ahead of any other pg who makes the all star team in the East.

Granted this wont happen this year, just curious to see what people think it would take for him to get recognition.
You just described Eric Bledsoe circa 2013-15. I don't think anyone considered Bledsoe a star three years ago. I'm not sure anyone does that even now.
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What stats does Smart have to put up to be an all star? Given that this is an offense first league, but defense has to count for something. I think if he started, 17ppg, 5ast, 5reb, on 45%+ fg and 35+%3pt he should be a viable all star player. His defense is miles ahead of any other pg who makes the all star team in the East.

Granted this wont happen this year, just curious to see what people think it would take for him to get recognition.
You just described Eric Bledsoe circa 2013-15. I don't think anyone considered Bledsoe a star three years ago. I'm not sure anyone does that even now.

But you're not taking Smart's defense into consideration? That's like saying Kwai Leanord wasn't an all star in his 4th year where he finally spiked up to averaging 17 points a game. Don't really get your point since Bledsoe and Smart are completely different players on both ends of the court. For example Smart can shut down players like Klay Thompson and James Harden. Bledsoe can't.......

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My hope for Marcus Smart is he becomes a "Tony Allen" kind of guy with maybe some extra offensive abilities. Is that wrong to think?

Smart may not be "the superstar", but none of you can deny that any championship team would love to have that "Tony Allen" kind of guy who can play extremely tough defense, hustle on the floor, cause turnovers and even score about 13-15 points per game (hopefully Smart keeps it up on offense).
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What stats does Smart have to put up to be an all star? Given that this is an offense first league, but defense has to count for something. I think if he started, 17ppg, 5ast, 5reb, on 45%+ fg and 35+%3pt he should be a viable all star player. His defense is miles ahead of any other pg who makes the all star team in the East.

Granted this wont happen this year, just curious to see what people think it would take for him to get recognition.
You just described Eric Bledsoe circa 2013-15. I don't think anyone considered Bledsoe a star three years ago. I'm not sure anyone does that even now.

I wouldn't exactly consider Bledsoe a lock down defender though. His problem is that he has all of the athleticism in the world, just not the defensive fundamentals. If you took Bledsoe, and added an amazing defense to him, there is an argument that that is one of the best 2 way pgs around. But most people tend to focus on defense. So that is what I was getting at.
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What stats does Smart have to put up to be an all star? Given that this is an offense first league, but defense has to count for something. I think if he started, 17ppg, 5ast, 5reb, on 45%+ fg and 35+%3pt he should be a viable all star player. His defense is miles ahead of any other pg who makes the all star team in the East.

Granted this wont happen this year, just curious to see what people think it would take for him to get recognition.
You just described Eric Bledsoe circa 2013-15. I don't think anyone considered Bledsoe a star three years ago. I'm not sure anyone does that even now.

But you're not taking Smart's defense into consideration? That's like saying Kwai Leanord wasn't an all star in his 4th year where he finally spiked up to averaging 17 points a game. Don't really get your point since Bledsoe and Smart are completely different players on both ends of the court. For example Smart can shut down players like Klay Thompson and James Harden. Bledsoe can't.......
Kawhi Leonard, in fact, wasn't an all-star until his fifth year when he was voted to an all-star team. And he definitely wasn't consider any sort of star prior to 2014-15 when he was part of the championship SAS team. Not sure how this example is helping your argument.
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What stats does Smart have to put up to be an all star? Given that this is an offense first league, but defense has to count for something. I think if he started, 17ppg, 5ast, 5reb, on 45%+ fg and 35+%3pt he should be a viable all star player. His defense is miles ahead of any other pg who makes the all star team in the East.

Granted this wont happen this year, just curious to see what people think it would take for him to get recognition.
You just described Eric Bledsoe circa 2013-15. I don't think anyone considered Bledsoe a star three years ago. I'm not sure anyone does that even now.

But you're not taking Smart's defense into consideration? That's like saying Kwai Leanord wasn't an all star in his 4th year where he finally spiked up to averaging 17 points a game. Don't really get your point since Bledsoe and Smart are completely different players on both ends of the court. For example Smart can shut down players like Klay Thompson and James Harden. Bledsoe can't.......
Kawhi Leonard, in fact, wasn't an all-star until his fifth year when he was voted to an all-star team. And he definitely wasn't consider any sort of star prior to 2014-15 when he was part of the championship SAS team. Not sure how this example is helping your argument.

Yes I know he wasn't voted in until his 5th year, but I mean all the basketball experts thought he should be considered an all star. If you didn't think he wasn't an all star at that point, then we just disagree on player valuation.

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12 points, 10 assists, 6 rebounds, 3 steals tonight vs the Knicks.
Only 2 of 7 from three but he took 2 or 3 shot clock savers tonight.

Brad is giving him the green light to shoot threes, he's attempting 6 three point shots per game.

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His ball handling in the pick and roll is stellar at the moment. Very surprising and very exciting.
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What stats does Smart have to put up to be an all star? Given that this is an offense first league, but defense has to count for something. I think if he started, 17ppg, 5ast, 5reb, on 45%+ fg and 35+%3pt he should be a viable all star player. His defense is miles ahead of any other pg who makes the all star team in the East.

Granted this wont happen this year, just curious to see what people think it would take for him to get recognition.

Just put up a prime-Rondo stats while getting many wins.

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marcus took three forced threes due to no time on clock-this ruins 3 point stats