Not a fan of IT as a starter

[Tr1boy]

Having both AB and IT launch shots after shots is not the way I want to see this team start the game.  It doesnt matter if we are down 20 (like tonight), these guys have no conscious and keep chucking the ball

CBS is also at fault for letting this happen.  Where is the ball movement?  I remember those few games without Rondo or IT , the team passing was good.   When everyone becomes involved at both ends,  you become a team that is hard to beat.

IT should come off the bench again and we should start Smart at the pg position.  This way you get the team passing going as well as sufficate the starting pg early in the game

[Ilikesports17]

dont count on it. At this point would probably be pretty terrible for team chemistry and its tough to justify benching a dude who is averaging 25 and 7.

[PhoSita]

IT is one of the few players in the league capable of being a top scoring option on a good team.  He is a legit 20-25 ppg scorer at the most important offensive position on the floor.

Talking about bringing him off the bench is silly.  The Celts are good on that end of the floor and it's mostly thanks to IT.


Isaiah is not the problem.  Nor is Avery, given how he's been playing.  The problem is a lack of consistency and toughness in the frontcourt, and overall cohesiveness on the defensive end.

[jpotter33]

Yeah, our offense has went almost completely IT-dependent since Horford left (and with no KO), because we legitimately have no other big guys who are playmakers. Things will get back to normal once Horford and Crowder are back.

[mr. dee]

Oh boy, another reactionary thread. Gotta love CB.

[Tr1boy]

dont count on it. At this point would probably be pretty terrible for team chemistry and its tough to justify benching a dude who is averaging 25 and 7.

Of course he does... when he gets to launch unlimited shots... im starting to get annoyed by those ill advised quick 3s. 

Pg doing 25 and 7 while the most of the other players are not productive, is not a good sign... pg needs to get their team involved.... IT is not a natural pg but as a vet by now he should know how to get Amir, Zeller some more easy buckets

Its only when he runs into a dead end, he passes up the ball

IT is the opposite of Rondo in terms of one looking to score 1st, wants to get their scoring  going 1st and the other looking for that perfect pass... both have in common having the ball way too long in their hands....

For example watch how Dragic plays. He barely dribbles the ball half the time.   He makes good passes, runs around, when open hits the 3. When there is an open lane drives in.  But the 1st thing he does is try to get ppl involved and make the correct play. It doesnt matter if you are a 10 year vet or a rookie. You get the pass when open

I know IT is not a natural this way. But he could take a notch down in wanting to get his scoring 1st so much and understand if the other starters are also in double digits in points , its just better for the team to have a chance to win

[BlackCeltic]

Having both AB and IT launch shots after shots is not the way I want to see this team start the game.  It doesnt matter if we are down 20 (like tonight), these guys have no conscious and keep chucking the ball

CBS is also at fault for letting this happen.  Where is the ball movement?  I remember those few games without Rondo or IT , the team passing was good.   When everyone becomes involved at both ends,  you become a team that is hard to beat.

IT should come off the bench again and we should start Smart at the pg position.  This way you get the team passing going as well as sufficate the starting pg early in the game

I agree and feel the same way about IT and Bradley playing like the Splash Brothers. I don't like it at all, and I feel as long as IT pads his stats in games like this nothing will change.

[max215]

IT is an elite scorer. He's a stud and belongs in the starting lineup.

[alldaboston]

please delete this thread now. after that awful start, where Isaiah was the ONLY guy scoring, you want him off the bench?? just stop.

[Tr1boy]

IT is one of the few players in the league capable of being a top scoring option on a good team.  He is a legit 20-25 ppg scorer at the most important offensive position on the floor.

Talking about bringing him off the bench is silly.  The Celts are good on that end of the floor and it's mostly thanks to IT.


Isaiah is not the problem.  Nor is Avery, given how he's been playing.  The problem is a lack of consistency and toughness in the frontcourt, and overall cohesiveness on the defensive end.

Yes bc the other players dont get a chance to be involved consistently

These guys are not leftovers... expect them to just be out there and do the dirty work ... and do it with excitement

Maybe if they get some passes or chance to score   they will play with more enthuthiasm on the defensive end as well

Just look at how the spurs play. The ball gets passed around. The open man (doesnt matter who half the game) , shoots the ball...   there is team synergy

[BlackCeltic]

please delete this thread now. after that awful start, where Isaiah was the ONLY guy scoring, you want him off the bench?? just stop.

IT gets into anything you can do I can do better mode when a player goes off on him. Hero ball isn't going to dig us out of a hole as tonight shows. Its great when he takes it to the basket, but chucking a 3 without passing once is deflating to everyone on the court. In the first quarter I watched Jaylen run up and down the court 6 times without touching the ball once.

[alldaboston]

please delete this thread now. after that awful start, where Isaiah was the ONLY guy scoring, you want him off the bench?? just stop.

IT gets into anything you can do I can do better mode when a player goes off on him. Hero ball isn't going to dig us out of a hole as tonight shows. Its great when he takes it to the basket, but chucking a 3 without passing once is deflating to everyone on the court. In the first quarter I watched Jaylen run up and down the court 6 times without touching the ball once.

He's had enough success doing both of those things that I think it's ok if he has an off night at that. Literally the last guy you can blame for this game is Isaiah.

[alldaboston]

IT is one of the few players in the league capable of being a top scoring option on a good team.  He is a legit 20-25 ppg scorer at the most important offensive position on the floor.

Talking about bringing him off the bench is silly.  The Celts are good on that end of the floor and it's mostly thanks to IT.


Isaiah is not the problem.  Nor is Avery, given how he's been playing.  The problem is a lack of consistency and toughness in the frontcourt, and overall cohesiveness on the defensive end.

Yes bc the other players dont get a chance to be involved consistently

These guys are not leftovers... expect them to just be out there and do the dirty work ... and do it with excitement

Maybe if they get some passes or chance to score   they will play with more enthuthiasm on the defensive end as well

Just look at how the spurs play. The ball gets passed around. The open man (doesnt matter who half the game) , shoots the ball...   there is team synergy

Do you want Tyler Zeller to be involved in the offense?

[droopdog7]

Without IT and Avery we average like 50 points a game.  We almost literally have no other real scoring threats so they basically have to game the lions share of shots.

The problem isn't IT or Avery chucking shots.  The problem is that neither is the caliber star that can carry a team all that far. 

[guava_wrench]

The offense is going to be tougher to generate with 2 of our starters out with injury. Especially when one is Horford.