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Should have never taken Olynyk
« on: November 05, 2016, 12:05:03 AM »

Offline zubi.anaba

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Wondering if ppl have finally accepted that DA blew it big time by not taking Gianni's at 13 in 2013.

At the time Cs where desperate for a stud in the draft that was fairly weak in terms of top tier talent. Danny had 2 options:

Olynyk who at best was going to be an Nba rotation player

Or

Giannis an unknown quantity with soo many physical tools. He was either going to be a bust or a blue chipper talent. No in between

This was the chance for DA to swing for the fences, instead he chickened out and went with the safe pick

3years later Gianni's has signed a 100mil extension, is avg 24 8 6 while being on a path to multiple all star teams. Olynyk on the other hand can barely get consistent minutes for a pseudo contender

At this point Gianni's is turning out to be by far the best player of that 2013 draft. Danny really could have had him instead of KO. It's probably more frustrating because everyone knew Olynyk would be nothing more that a rotation player. Far too limited physically to have any impact in today's game. Yet there Gianni's was, breaming with potential and perfectly placed for Danny to swoop in and pick him up.

Danny messed up big time :-* :( >:(


Re: Should have never taken Olynyk
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2016, 12:14:33 AM »

Offline KG Living Legend

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 Talking about beating a dead horse. Everyone here is aware. Danny scouted him he just didn't pill the trigger.

 This is what I'm thankful for on my Bday. This year's #3 overall pick was not an easy choice, and it appears that Ainge hit a Grand Slam. Let's rejoice Celtics fans.

Re: Should have never taken Olynyk
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2016, 12:15:16 AM »

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And we should have taken Butler, D Jordan, and M Gasol, as well  ::)

Be happy we walked away with a decent rotation player in that draft at 13. If the Cavs had not signed Lebron for free, they would still be sucking it up with Anthony Bennett getting spot minutes off the bench.

There were some good players taken in that draft, but not a lot of great ones. We can consider ourselves lucky to have gotten one of those good ones.

Re: Should have never taken Olynyk
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2016, 12:21:33 AM »

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Re: Should have never taken Olynyk
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2016, 12:27:20 AM »

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@KG: Cheers! To you and Jaylen Brown.  I wish "Freak" wasn't taken from NBA2k career mode --  JB would be well-suited with that nickname.  Taking LeBron off the dribble and finishing, grabbing offensive rbs and finishing over legit NBA talent... man. Looks like we got a freak on our hands here, folks.

@zubi: Even though the discussion has been had, it's good to question decisions among GM, coach, players, etc.  I didn't get it then, still don't... but I also thought passing on Dunn was insane, and JB is looking pretty dang good.
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Re: Should have never taken Olynyk
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2016, 12:37:34 AM »

Offline alldaboston

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Go blame every other GM who didn't take Giannis either.
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

you vs. the guy she tells you not to worry about

Re: Should have never taken Olynyk
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2016, 01:20:29 AM »

Offline Smartacus

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A. Trashing Olynyk when he hasn't played a game this season reeks of what have you done for me lately? Kelly is capable of holding his own against top competetion and does so while remaining a solid passer, off ball cutter, and shooter. Did we already forget this game? https://youtu.be/-0TPXUl2T3o

B. I'm sorry but do we really want to root for a team run by Giannis Antetokoumpo? I love the kid, think he's a generational talent, and even wanted us to draft him at the time but I am totally content with him being a league pass fixture instead of a Celtic.

Milwaukee is the perfect situation for him. He would not be this far along in his development in Boston. He's the primary ball handler for the Bucks, would be getting those touches here? I'm sorry but I'd rather see us with Kelly than the akward Giannis show every night.

Could be play in Stevens system? Who knows... but I know Kelly can.

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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2016, 01:23:07 AM »

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Re: Should have never taken Olynyk
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2016, 01:26:17 AM »

Offline RockinRyA

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I didnt like the pick, I wanted Giannis as a swing for the fence type. This is where having multiple picks help you. Since we only had 1 pick, it was very risky taking Giannis since if he doesnt pan out, we end up not getting anything out of the draft at all. Ainge went with a safe pick, but remember that Giannis couldve been another Fab Melo. From what I can see, danny rarely takes a gamble in drafts where he only has 1 pick.

Re: Should have never taken Olynyk
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2016, 01:45:39 AM »

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Re: Should have never taken Olynyk
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2016, 01:52:27 AM »

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I was in Gobert camp.

Re: Should have never taken Olynyk
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2016, 02:17:43 AM »

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I'm curious what the roster looked like that draft.  I  think the celtics were in desparate need of a big man who could at least be on the court his rookie year.  I think that was the year we unloaded pierce and KG.


He took jj who was a 4 year college big man and it flopped. There was a series of that.  Fab etc where he was takng chances..

Giannis was on a lot of peoples radars at that time but at that point in his career there were still questions with him.  He was more like bender that way to me.  Paul George for example was clear he had something more to me but yet he slid.  Giannis was overseas though for me.  Ainge did go and scout him.  But i really think Giannis as a prospect was not that far along at that point.

I was aware of giannis.  I was also looking for a big man that draft though. I wanted Adams but there really wasn't anyone that draft that jumped out at me like i really want this guy.  Also looked at KO.  Shabazz.Schroder was that draft.  It was a lot of those pretty good but i wasnt falling head over heals for anyone.  Giannis was the sleeper with the big upside but at that point he really did not look nba ready.

I think we desparately needed someone at that point who could at least be on the court and wouldnt be a total bust.

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Re: Should have never taken Olynyk
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2016, 02:31:21 AM »

Offline walker834

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KO shot the ball really well in drills here too where the celtics probably felt he could do that.

WE got Sully but jj was a flop and I dont think Ainge felt good about going with Sully and Fab Melo as our big men for the next few years as we rebuilt if that's how it was.  I can't remember the specifics but I think it was like that.

I think KO was a safe pick by him. 

It's easy to second guess. But you take a gamble at that point. That completely destroys franchises too. Yeah you may have been right that time. 

What about all the times you've been wrong? Would we be the bucks or even worse? Who knows?

Ainge even said after the draft he did not see KO as a star. He also he was intrigued by giannis's potential before it and liked him. his explanation if you listened to him was right there.
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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2016, 02:43:45 AM »

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Never pick the soft player.

Re: Should have never taken Olynyk
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2016, 02:47:44 AM »

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That was one of the few drafts I was actually wrong about who we actually took though.  I was sort of in the ballpark with Adams.  We needed a big man who could come in and play. I usually nail who we actually take.  I've been wrong on a few but my logic and ballpark stuff is usually right there because i try to figure out what fits for the celtics situation vs my own selfish this guy or that guy. I take all that into account when i scout.

Ainge does that too I know he does. He will agonize over stuff. HE seems to be lightening up a bit though.

Ainge does not like to give up flexibility and tries for the best option. He will miss the mark on occasion.

He's still better than 90 percent of gm's because of what he does. He may be the best period when it's all said and done.  He's not a hackjob or a one trick pony.  He actually evolves too.
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