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IMO The reason Young is here is for Ainge's Legacy
« on: November 03, 2016, 06:07:36 PM »

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 Zizic would help the Celtics win two or three more games this year. I know he'd be q rookie, but he rebounds like a Man, and his standing reach is 9'3". That's Elite.

 However, If Young does develop into a Legit rotation player, it still could go down as the greatest GM move of all time. It might anyway but Young could be the Icing on the Taco.

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 James Young
 Jaylen Brown
 2017 Josh Jackson
 2018 One of the Bigs, my favorite Michael Porter Jr, Wendell Carter, Deandre Ayton, Mohamed Bamba

 If we go on to win two titles or more and these guys turn into stars and play here for a decade, it just might be the greatest trade of all time.

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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2016, 06:12:21 PM »

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I think the biggest reason zizic isn't here is so that his rookie contract starts next year and we get one extra year of that sweet sweet low contract (even though that is going up)
I trust Danny Ainge

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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2016, 06:51:05 PM »

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 Zizic would help the Celtics win two or three more games this year. I know he'd be q rookie, but he rebounds like a Man, and his standing reach is 9'3". That's Elite.

 However, If Young does develop into a Legit rotation player, it still could go down as the greatest GM move of all time. It might anyway but Young could be the Icing on the Taco.

 Example List

 James Young
 Jaylen Brown
 2017 Josh Jackson
 2018 One of the Bigs, my favorite Michael Porter Jr, Wendell Carter, Deandre Ayton, Mohamed Bamba

 If we go on to win two titles or more and these guys turn into stars and play here for a decade, it just might be the greatest trade of all time.

We also got Isaiah Thomas and Tyler Zeller as a result of the trade.

Ainge used the Paul Pierce trade exception to trade for Tyler Zeller, Marcus Thorton, and a Cavs first-rounder.

He then flipped Thornton and the same first-rounder for IT.

We could end up with 4 or 5 rotation players as a result of the Nets trade. Pretty awesome stuff.

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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2016, 06:58:08 PM »

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 Zizic would help the Celtics win two or three more games this year. I know he'd be q rookie, but he rebounds like a Man, and his standing reach is 9'3". That's Elite.

 However, If Young does develop into a Legit rotation player, it still could go down as the greatest GM move of all time. It might anyway but Young could be the Icing on the Taco.

 Example List

 James Young
 Jaylen Brown
 2017 Josh Jackson
 2018 One of the Bigs, my favorite Michael Porter Jr, Wendell Carter, Deandre Ayton, Mohamed Bamba

 If we go on to win two titles or more and these guys turn into stars and play here for a decade, it just might be the greatest trade of all time.

We also got Isaiah Thomas and Tyler Zeller as a result of the trade.

Ainge used the Paul Pierce trade exception to trade for Tyler Zeller, Marcus Thorton, and a Cavs first-rounder.

He then flipped Thornton and the same first-rounder for IT.

We could end up with 4 or 5 rotation players as a result of the Nets trade. Pretty awesome stuff.
It's the gift that keeps on giving.  ;)

The Ainge legacy plays no part in this. Maybe someday you could look back and say that but not now.

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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2016, 07:13:10 PM »

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I think the biggest reason zizic isn't here is so that his rookie contract starts next year and we get one extra year of that sweet sweet low contract (even though that is going up)

excellent point!

but the real reason he's still here is no one wanted him. Ainge shopped him and no one bit, so it's not like there's some secret reason.

imo if we cut Young at any point some team would scoop him up immediately because there is potential there... which is why i believe Ainge hasn't cut him and why he'd prefer to get something for him.

also i kind of feel Olynyk is being dealt at the trade deadline or before and suspect Young will be part of the deal. just a hunch though.

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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2016, 07:18:17 PM »

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However, If Young does develop into a Legit rotation player, it still could go down as the greatest GM move of all time. It might anyway but Young could be the Icing on the Taco.
 

Nothing we have seen thus far, indicates this happening.   It is a reach at best, and delusional at the worst.

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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2016, 07:52:53 PM »

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However, If Young does develop into a Legit rotation player, it still could go down as the greatest GM move of all time. It might anyway but Young could be the Icing on the Taco.
 

Nothing we have seen thus far, indicates this happening.   It is a reach at best, and delusional at the worst.


 Delusional? Really Man?

 I hate Young more than anyone, but he was always an "Upside" pick that was going to take a long time.

 My guy was Hood, he was older, more athletic IMO, and had much shorter arm's.

 I think I was right about Hood being better but it's not over yet, Young will score 14ppg somewhere in the NBA.

 Admittedly Young was my Second choice behind Hood, I never noticed how bad his defense was. In that sense it's strange that Ainge of all people drafted such a poor defender.

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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2016, 08:33:01 PM »

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However, If Young does develop into a Legit rotation player, it still could go down as the greatest GM move of all time. It might anyway but Young could be the Icing on the Taco.
 

Nothing we have seen thus far, indicates this happening.   It is a reach at best, and delusional at the worst.


 Delusional? Really Man?

 I hate Young more than anyone, but he was always an "Upside" pick that was going to take a long time.

 My guy was Hood, he was older, more athletic IMO, and had much shorter arm's.

 I think I was right about Hood being better but it's not over yet, Young will score 14ppg somewhere in the NBA.

 Admittedly Young was my Second choice behind Hood, I never noticed how bad his defense was. In that sense it's strange that Ainge of all people drafted such a poor defender.

I was also split between hood and young
but thought young over hood because of his potential due to his physical stats though worried about young's ability to create offense
I thought hood had a lower ceiling but higher floor as a catch and shoot kind of player

Looking now hood is definitely better than young and has advanced his overall game much better
Ainge probably drafted young based on potential to become better as he drafted smart who was a safe pick based on his defense so they felt they could gamble on the Brooklyn pick

I think this might be the last of young as we still have 2 promising rookies overseas in yabusele and zizic as well as the nets draft pick to make room for in the roster

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I thought he was trying to trade him for a 2nd rounder?

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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2016, 09:30:16 PM »

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However, If Young does develop into a Legit rotation player, it still could go down as the greatest GM move of all time. It might anyway but Young could be the Icing on the Taco.
 

Nothing we have seen thus far, indicates this happening.   It is a reach at best, and delusional at the worst.

I think it became a coin flip who to keep, although I think RJ would have been the better choice. James Young looks incompetent on defense. He also parks himself in corners. Someone said that's Brad's call, but I don't think so. I didn't see anyone else parking in corners as much as James. Maybe I'm wrong.

They kept Young because he has seniority with the team and is still basically a kid. It was charity. Maybe keeping Pressey at some point was the same thing, but I remember Phil winning us games and helping Olynyk's confidence. RJ is 23 and he simply didn't show enough other than one great preseason game against the Knicks. I thought he won it with that performance, but now I know it's true Danny and Brad do not make decisions on one game. I heard one of them say that once.

RJ is a chucker. We've know this since last year. I found it surprising. If he sucks at shooting, what is he good for unless he tones his body and becomes a defensive menace? RJ is smooth and I think he might become a real NBA rotation guy, a Bayless maybe even a Delonte who worked his way into big moments.

I think James Young is out of the NBA when his contract runs out. Maybe he can pull off a Gerald Green story, but that might be in ten years. I don't know. It's said piano players need to start as young as possible. James Young might be a Fab Melo and incapable of competing in the NBA to justify a 15th roster spot.

Jaylen Brown is a natural. He could be a cross between LeBron, Michael Jordan and M.L. Carr. I just pulled that out of my hat. I don't know. He seems to have the "it" factor as does Marcus Smart. And we are still discussing James Young. My excuse is it's halftime.

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Young like rozier is a wasted pick