Celtics Okc trade idea

[Tr1boy]

To OKC: Jerebko, Zeller, Young, 2018 2nd round pick
To Celtics: Roberson, Ilyasova, Morrow

[saltlover]

Zeller can't be traded until January 15th.  Maybe wait until January 1st before starting trade threads with Zeller included?

[Who]

(1) I rate Jerebko > Ilyasova. Jerebko is the superior two way player.

(2) Not interested in Morrow. Gerald Green performs the same function. Morrow is not needed.

(3) Roberson is useful but not wild about his fit in this team. We do not need another scrappy defensive minded player with a dodgy offensive game. Despite being a solid player, I do not see much value added in him on this roster. Not needed.

I prefer to keep our guys.

[Tr1boy]

(1) I rate Jerebko > Ilyasova. Jerebko is the superior two way player.

(2) Not interested in Morrow. Gerald Green performs the same function. Morrow is not needed.

(3) Roberson is useful but not wild about his fit in this team. We do not need another scrappy defensive minded player with a dodgy offensive game. Despite being a solid player, I do not see much value added in him on this roster. Not needed.

I prefer to keep our guys.

You can never have enough good defenders.  This trade is mainly about getting Roberson.  He is a fantastic defender and would help with our rebounding problems

The other two are included for just salary match purposee and will be riding the bench

[Grindfather]

(1) I rate Jerebko > Ilyasova. Jerebko is the superior two way player.

(2) Not interested in Morrow. Gerald Green performs the same function. Morrow is not needed.

(3) Roberson is useful but not wild about his fit in this team. We do not need another scrappy defensive minded player with a dodgy offensive game. Despite being a solid player, I do not see much value added in him on this roster. Not needed.

I prefer to keep our guys.

You can never have enough good defenders.  This trade is mainly about getting Roberson.  He is a fantastic defender and would help with our rebounding problems

The other two are included for just salary match purposee and will be riding the bench

You can, however, have too many guys who can't score.  And Roberson is a wing, we don't have rebounding problems with our wings.  We need a big who can rebound and trading Zeller, this is sad to say, makes us weaker in the middle.   

[Tr1boy]

(1) I rate Jerebko > Ilyasova. Jerebko is the superior two way player.

(2) Not interested in Morrow. Gerald Green performs the same function. Morrow is not needed.

(3) Roberson is useful but not wild about his fit in this team. We do not need another scrappy defensive minded player with a dodgy offensive game. Despite being a solid player, I do not see much value added in him on this roster. Not needed.

I prefer to keep our guys.

You can never have enough good defenders.  This trade is mainly about getting Roberson.  He is a fantastic defender and would help with our rebounding problems

The other two are included for just salary match purposee and will be riding the bench

You can, however, have too many guys who can't score.  And Roberson is a wing, we don't have rebounding problems with our wings.  We need a big who can rebound and trading Zeller, this is sad to say, makes us weaker in the middle.   

Does it matter where you get your rebounding from?

Roberson can start alongside Horford or KO.  Cbs loves small ball anyways

So far our offense is working fine.. its the rebounding and team d that can use a jolt

[Eddie20]

To OKC: Jerebko, Zeller, Young, 2018 2nd round pick
To Celtics: Roberson, Ilyasova, Morrow

But don't they have Sabonis? Didn't you say he would be dominant right out of the gate because NBA players weren't used to playing against someone as strong as he is? So since that's obviously true I don't think OKC does it.

[Tr1boy]

To OKC: Jerebko, Zeller, Young, 2018 2nd round pick
To Celtics: Roberson, Ilyasova, Morrow

But don't they have Sabonis? Didn't you say he would be dominant right out of the gate because NBA players weren't used to playing against someone as strong as he is? So since that's obviously true I don't think OKC does it.

[D Dub]

Interesting idea.  If we didn't have Crowder all ready --whom I rate higher than Roberson-- I'd be into it; especially if we could somehow get one of OKC's future firsts included in the swap.  That might be a valuable pick to have when the Westbrook honeymoon ends...

[Eddie20]

To OKC: Jerebko, Zeller, Young, 2018 2nd round pick
To Celtics: Roberson, Ilyasova, Morrow

But don't they have Sabonis? Didn't you say he would be dominant right out of the gate because NBA players weren't used to playing against someone as strong as he is? So since that's obviously true I don't think OKC does it.

My apologies if I'm mistaken, but didn't you author this?

Note: He's on the bench and averaging 4.3 PPG, 2.7 RPG, and 0.0 APG in 13.3 MPG.

He can take his man off the dribble. He will execute the hook shot. Because he is no dummy diving into players who has outstanding length. He dribbles to the middles  fading away then raises his right arm with the baby left hook . and if you "cheat" he will fake you out , up and under, spins.    He has battled against one of the toughest /tall/lengthy opponent all his life. His dad.    You got to believe

Add take his man off the dribble, jump shot that has noticeably improved from year 1.  Again in gonzaga they wanted him 'inside" .  in the NBA he can work an inside/outside game

He is not "stuck" as you project him to be. This is very much a chess player on top of a basketball player.  He is directing players to go here there. Set picks this way that way. Turning his body methodically.     Example watch him in the low lost against guys with longer length. He will rotate one way then to the right , then back tk the middle and shoot from the opponent's chest. Unless you got a 7'7 wingspan or narrow shoulders to raise your arms with both hands touching , it's difficult to block such a shot

Limiting Sabonis that he is xyz or will struggle xyz is not smart. He still has room to grow.  Will outthink on top of trying to outwork you on the court. 

I see Sabonis like I do smart, crowder but a PF version.  But with a higher iq and more efficient offensively

I see Sabonis vs Skal/poeltl as  I see  David West vs Brandan Wright. And I would take David West any day of the week.

Let's see what happens

[alldaboston]

(1) I rate Jerebko > Ilyasova. Jerebko is the superior two way player.

(2) Not interested in Morrow. Gerald Green performs the same function. Morrow is not needed.

(3) Roberson is useful but not wild about his fit in this team. We do not need another scrappy defensive minded player with a dodgy offensive game. Despite being a solid player, I do not see much value added in him on this roster. Not needed.

I prefer to keep our guys.

You can never have enough good defenders.  This trade is mainly about getting Roberson.  He is a fantastic defender and would help with our rebounding problems

The other two are included for just salary match purposee and will be riding the bench

You can, however, have too many guys who can't score.  And Roberson is a wing, we don't have rebounding problems with our wings.  We need a big who can rebound and trading Zeller, this is sad to say, makes us weaker in the middle.   

Does it matter where you get your rebounding from?

Roberson can start alongside Horford or KO.  Cbs loves small ball anyways

So far our offense is working fine.. its the rebounding and team d that can use a jolt

yep. Roberson is a very good rebounder. He played PF in college i think. he knows how to get rebounds, and has great size for a wing at 6'7"

[Tr1boy]

To OKC: Jerebko, Zeller, Young, 2018 2nd round pick
To Celtics: Roberson, Ilyasova, Morrow

But don't they have Sabonis? Didn't you say he would be dominant right out of the gate because NBA players weren't used to playing against someone as strong as he is? So since that's obviously true I don't think OKC does it.

My apologies if I'm mistaken, but didn't you author this?

Note: He's on the bench and averaging 4.3 PPG, 2.7 RPG, and 0.0 APG in 13.3 MPG.

He can take his man off the dribble. He will execute the hook shot. Because he is no dummy diving into players who has outstanding length. He dribbles to the middles  fading away then raises his right arm with the baby left hook . and if you "cheat" he will fake you out , up and under, spins.    He has battled against one of the toughest /tall/lengthy opponent all his life. His dad.    You got to believe

Add take his man off the dribble, jump shot that has noticeably improved from year 1.  Again in gonzaga they wanted him 'inside" .  in the NBA he can work an inside/outside game

He is not "stuck" as you project him to be. This is very much a chess player on top of a basketball player.  He is directing players to go here there. Set picks this way that way. Turning his body methodically.     Example watch him in the low lost against guys with longer length. He will rotate one way then to the right , then back tk the middle and shoot from the opponent's chest. Unless you got a 7'7 wingspan or narrow shoulders to raise your arms with both hands touching , it's difficult to block such a shot

Limiting Sabonis that he is xyz or will struggle xyz is not smart. He still has room to grow.  Will outthink on top of trying to outwork you on the court. 

I see Sabonis like I do smart, crowder but a PF version.  But with a higher iq and more efficient offensively

I see Sabonis vs Skal/poeltl as  I see  David West vs Brandan Wright. And I would take David West any day of the week.

Let's see what happens

Yes after 2 games, lets judge a 1st rookies performance harshly...  makes total sense

[Tr1boy]

(1) I rate Jerebko > Ilyasova. Jerebko is the superior two way player.

(2) Not interested in Morrow. Gerald Green performs the same function. Morrow is not needed.

(3) Roberson is useful but not wild about his fit in this team. We do not need another scrappy defensive minded player with a dodgy offensive game. Despite being a solid player, I do not see much value added in him on this roster. Not needed.

I prefer to keep our guys.

You can never have enough good defenders.  This trade is mainly about getting Roberson.  He is a fantastic defender and would help with our rebounding problems

The other two are included for just salary match purposee and will be riding the bench

You can, however, have too many guys who can't score.  And Roberson is a wing, we don't have rebounding problems with our wings.  We need a big who can rebound and trading Zeller, this is sad to say, makes us weaker in the middle.   

Does it matter where you get your rebounding from?

Roberson can start alongside Horford or KO.  Cbs loves small ball anyways

So far our offense is working fine.. its the rebounding and team d that can use a jolt

yep. Roberson is a very good rebounder. He played PF in college i think. he knows how to get rebounds, and has great size for a wing at 6'7"

Just like Jaylen is super quick off the ground from standstill.... but can also really rise above the rim... special jumping ability....

Roberson is AB like defender for a SF ... also can defend some pfs

He shot the 3 at 31 percent last season. And prob could improve under cbs

[Csfan1984]

Pass on this rather keep our guys.

[tazzmaniac]

(1) I rate Jerebko > Ilyasova. Jerebko is the superior two way player.

(2) Not interested in Morrow. Gerald Green performs the same function. Morrow is not needed.

(3) Roberson is useful but not wild about his fit in this team. We do not need another scrappy defensive minded player with a dodgy offensive game. Despite being a solid player, I do not see much value added in him on this roster. Not needed.

I prefer to keep our guys.

You can never have enough good defenders.  This trade is mainly about getting Roberson.  He is a fantastic defender and would help with our rebounding problems

The other two are included for just salary match purposee and will be riding the bench

Roberson will be a RFA next offseason so how much are you going to be willing to offer to keep him?