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Ainge Big Men Darfting History
« on: October 18, 2016, 10:10:31 PM »

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2003 - Perk (hit)
2004 - Al Jefferson (massive hit)
2005 - Ryan Gomes (hit)
2006 - Leon Powe (hit)
2007 - Davis (hit)
2008 - Semih Erden (push)*
2009 - x
2010 - Luke Harandgody (push)*
2011 - JaJuan (miss)
2012 - Jared Sullinger (push)
2012 - Feb Melo (miss)
2013 - KO (hit/push)
2013 - Colton Iverson (miss)
2014 - x
2015 - Jordan Mickey (push)
2016 - ???

Any second rounders* included in future trades get a push. Sully gets a push because, well I don't know why, I'm willing to concede that was a miss I guess.. Gomes gets a hit because he's forged a decent career for a super low pick

All in all - 1 big hit, 4 hits, 3 misses, and 5 pushes

Danny has done an  above average job of drafting bigs. The big knock will always be Fab and JaJuan: that will leave a taste in people's mouths for a long time because they occurred almost back to back.

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Re: Ainge Big Men Darfting History
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2016, 10:17:25 PM »

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Perk is another massive hit. BBD was a hit, as well. Sully was a good pick, relative to draft slot.


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Re: Ainge Big Men Darfting History
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2016, 10:19:09 PM »

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I'll forgive him since he landed us Garnett and Horford.

Re: Ainge Big Men Darfting History
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2016, 10:40:44 PM »

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For a realistic assessment, I think you have to compare the selection to who else was realistically available.  Personally, I consider Olynyk a miss because I think Ainge should have taken the Greek Freak.  In hindsight, I'd also prefer Gobert to Olynyk but no one would have reasonably projected Gobert to be picked that early so I wouldn't consider that a miss. 

Re: Ainge Big Men Darfting History
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2016, 10:52:17 PM »

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Colton iverson was the 53rd pick in the draft. Unless you somehow weight their draft position the comparisons become strained.
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Re: Ainge Big Men Darfting History
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2016, 10:57:23 PM »

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considering Sully is a solid rotation player picked in the mid-twenties, he's more than a push, he's a hit.

also, Semih was the #60 pick in the draft.  the fact he made the team, got playing time and was seen as enough of an asset to be worth something in a trade is far more than a push, he was a hit as well.

considering where Danny was picking and who was left on the board who was also an obviously better player -- not a shot in the dark , Danny's done pretty well not just picking big men but players in general.

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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2016, 11:03:56 PM »

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For a realistic assessment, I think you have to compare the selection to who else was realistically available.  Personally, I consider Olynyk a miss because I think Ainge should have taken the Greek Freak.  In hindsight, I'd also prefer Gobert to Olynyk but no one would have reasonably projected Gobert to be picked that early so I wouldn't consider that a miss.

It's a hit because KO have been productive on the team, although we expect more on him.

Sully should also be a hit. I think Danny would resign him if the bid on both Durant and Horford fell.

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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2016, 11:08:23 PM »

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For a realistic assessment, I think you have to compare the selection to who else was realistically available.  Personally, I consider Olynyk a miss because I think Ainge should have taken the Greek Freak.  In hindsight, I'd also prefer Gobert to Olynyk but no one would have reasonably projected Gobert to be picked that early so I wouldn't consider that a miss.

It's a hit because KO have been productive on the team, although we expect more on him.

Sully should also be a hit. I think Danny would resign him if the bid on both Durant and Horford fell.
I guess Olynyk should be considered a hit but the Greek Freak would have been a homerun. 

Re: Ainge Big Men Darfting History
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2016, 11:11:51 PM »

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The only real misses were Fab Melo and JaJuan Johnson, and even they were both picks in the 20s, which somewhat mitigates the miss.

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« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2016, 11:18:15 PM »

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I see KO as more of a push

Re: Ainge Big Men Darfting History
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2016, 11:45:33 PM »

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His "darfting" history with bigs was certainly better earlier in his tenure, but i guess it's just averaged out over the past few years. i still dont have a huge problem with danny drafting for us. if jaylen develops as well as we hope he will, i'll take back any negative criticism i've said about Danny prior and immediately after this year's draft.
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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2016, 05:59:19 PM »

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Relative to draft position, I think he's done pretty well.

The thing that always bugs me about rating a GM like this is there's no context. Who are the best GM's and how often to they draft stars? Rotation players? How often does the best GM in the league totally miss on a draft pick?
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« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2016, 06:03:01 PM »

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I see KO as more of a push

Yeah, no kidding. I **** hated the KO pick, and I still do. Can he be a role player? Yes. Will he be on this team in a couple of years? In my opinion, no. I would have taken a flier on an athletic player over KO. Smart, Jaylen Brown, and Rozier made up for this awful pick.
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Re: Ainge Big Men Darfting History
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2016, 06:10:00 PM »

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He has a much better success rate with guards because he knows that position.