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Re: Detective investigating Derrick Rose rape allegation found dead
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2016, 02:45:27 PM »

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The local CBS news report I read said that Whittier, CA police were investigating it as a suicide...


Re: Detective investigating Derrick Rose rape allegation found dead
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2016, 03:19:23 PM »

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I don't get how it's ruled as a suicide..guess we have to wait for more news to come out...

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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2016, 03:22:10 PM »

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If it was a suicide, where's the gun?
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

you vs. the guy she tells you not to worry about

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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2016, 03:52:48 PM »

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If it was a suicide, where's the gun?

Nadine Hernandez, 44, was found around 2:45 p.m., after police responded to reports of a shooting. Paramedics transported Hernandez to a hospital where she later died. A firearm was recovered at the scene, police said.

Also, it's nearly impossible to stage a suicide via gun. Gunshot residue is tested for and would be found on the deceased's dominant hand.

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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2016, 04:34:41 PM »

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If it was a suicide, where's the gun?

Nadine Hernandez, 44, was found around 2:45 p.m., after police responded to reports of a shooting. Paramedics transported Hernandez to a hospital where she later died. A firearm was recovered at the scene, police said.

Also, it's nearly impossible to stage a suicide via gun. Gunshot residue is tested for and would be found on the deceased's dominant hand.
Why? The murderer could physically force her by pulling the trigger while she's holding the gun. 

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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2016, 04:34:44 PM »

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If it was a suicide, where's the gun?

Nadine Hernandez, 44, was found around 2:45 p.m., after police responded to reports of a shooting. Paramedics transported Hernandez to a hospital where she later died. A firearm was recovered at the scene, police said.

Also, it's nearly impossible to stage a suicide via gun. Gunshot residue is tested for and would be found on the deceased's dominant hand.

oh lol, thanks. i had read another article today where it made no mention of a gun, and i just assumed that it was the same article here too.
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

you vs. the guy she tells you not to worry about

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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2016, 04:43:40 PM »

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If it was a suicide, where's the gun?

Nadine Hernandez, 44, was found around 2:45 p.m., after police responded to reports of a shooting. Paramedics transported Hernandez to a hospital where she later died. A firearm was recovered at the scene, police said.

Also, it's nearly impossible to stage a suicide via gun. Gunshot residue is tested for and would be found on the deceased's dominant hand.
Why? The murderer could physically force her by pulling the trigger while she's holding the gun.

Then there would likely be signs of a struggle, which again wouldn't be indicative of it being self inflicted. Also, the entry/exit wound wouldn't be consistent with it being self inflicted. The pattern would be "off" and would show the trajectory pattern not indicative of it being from her. What you suggested might be pulled off in the movies, but not in the real world. Try playing around in a mock scenario against your gf/wife and you'll see that despite the smaller size it's impossible to pull of what you suggested against an unwilling individual and have it not look like a homicide.

Oh, and it's not as though this case won't be reassigned to a new detective.
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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2016, 05:15:55 PM »

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The gunshot wound was to the chest. It has always seemed a little strange to me that people use that method, but apparently it accounts for ~25% of gun-related suicides.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3598521


On a side note, it's pretty sad that Derrick Rose's reputation has slipped so far that this is even a story. A few years he was a bona-fide superstar, now we're contemplating (though not endorsing) conspiracy theories about his potentially murdering cops.

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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2016, 05:23:01 PM »

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The gunshot wound was to the chest. It has always seemed a little strange to me that people use that method, but apparently it accounts for ~25% of gun-related suicides.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3598521

That's usually as it relates to females since they care about disfiguring their face. A study with more collective data would probably reflect that.

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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2016, 03:42:30 PM »

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Just want to voice my opinion that some of the jokes about a dead police officer in this thread come off in incredibly poor taste.

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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2016, 05:01:35 PM »

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Just want to voice my opinion that some of the jokes about a dead police officer in this thread come off in incredibly poor taste.
I can't tell if you're joking cause I don't see any jokes unless they were deleted.

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« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2016, 05:05:47 PM »

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Just want to voice my opinion that some of the jokes about a dead police officer in this thread come off in incredibly poor taste.
I can't tell if you're joking cause I don't see any jokes unless they were deleted.

They were deleted, thankfully.

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« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2016, 08:29:43 PM »

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The gunshot wound was to the chest. It has always seemed a little strange to me that people use that method, but apparently it accounts for ~25% of gun-related suicides.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3598521

That's usually as it relates to females since they care about disfiguring their face. A study with more collective data would probably reflect that.

That's how Junior Seau killed himself if I recall correctly.  Couple other ex-NFL guys too. Though that was to preserve their brain tissue for studying I think.