Warrior's have Four of the top 15 players in the NBA

[Moranis]

Didn't we look into it and find that no team in history has had 4 all-NBA players on the same team at once ?

I think after about title 7, people are going to grow tired of the golden state Globetrotters

Depending on how you did the criteria, the Celtics in the 60's certainly had 4 All-NBA type players on their team. 

[PhoSita]

They are good players no question, but I wouldn't put either in the top 15 in the NBA.

Curry, LeBron, Durant, Leonard, Westbrook, Harden, Paul, George, Davis, Towns.

That's more or less my top 10.

After that group, I think Draymond gets into the conversation.  You can talk about Lowry, Wall, Irving, Butler, Drummond, Lillard, Deandre, Griffin.  Thompson comes into the conversation somewhere around there as well, along with Paul Millsap and LaMarcus.

So yeah, I see your point.  I think it's debatable if they are "top 15" as opposed to, say, "top 20" or "top 25."

I think you could argue their value is in excess of some of those names because of their health, consistency, and defensive ability.  Whereas Irving, Lillard, Griffin, LaMarcus, and Drummond are all limited on one end or the other, have significant injury issues, or both.


Anyway, the bottom line is, regardless of where you want to rank them, Draymond and Thompson are really, really good, and would be capable of serving as the focal point for a very good team.  Despite that, they are clearly the 3rd and 4th best players on the Warriors. 

I don't think there has ever been a team with such talented, in-their-prime players as the clear-cut 3rd and 4th best guys on the roster.

[bdm860]

Didn't we look into it and find that no team in history has had 4 all-NBA players on the same team at once ?

I think after about title 7, people are going to grow tired of the golden state Globetrotters

And neither do the Warriors.  Ya know those 2017 awards haven't come out yet. 

Sure they have 4 All-NBA players from the prior year coming together (which has technically never been done before), but when this year is all said and done, I don't think the Warriors are going to get 4.  Kevin Love was All-NBA before he joined the Cavs, now he's not even an All-Star.



I'm with Moranis here.  Klay Thompson and Draymond Green are very good players, no doubt, but I'm not sure how good they really are.  Maybe they really are top 15 players, but maybe they just look like borderline All-Stars (Top 30ish) on another team.  What do last years Bulls look like if you swap out Butler for Klay?  How about Harden for Klay? What happens if you swapped Millsap and Draymond Green last year?  If you did that are either Klay or Green All-NBA last year?

[Moranis]

They are good players no question, but I wouldn't put either in the top 15 in the NBA.

Curry, LeBron, Durant, Leonard, Westbrook, Harden, Paul, George, Davis, Towns.

That's more or less my top 10.

After that group, I think Draymond gets into the conversation.  You can talk about Lowry, Wall, Irving, Butler, Drummond, Lillard, Deandre, Griffin.  Thompson comes into the conversation somewhere around there as well, along with Paul Millsap and LaMarcus.

So yeah, I see your point.  I think it's debatable if they are "top 15" as opposed to, say, "top 20" or "top 25."

I think you could argue their value is in excess of some of those names because of their health, consistency, and defensive ability.  Whereas Irving, Lillard, Griffin, LaMarcus, and Drummond are all limited on one end or the other, have significant injury issues, or both.


Anyway, the bottom line is, regardless of where you want to rank them, Draymond and Thompson are really, really good, and would be capable of serving as the focal point for a very good team.  Despite that, they are clearly the 3rd and 4th best players on the Warriors. 

I don't think there has ever been a team with such talented, in-their-prime players as the clear-cut 3rd and 4th best guys on the roster.

Are they really that much better than Odom and Bynum?  Or whichever 2 of the Pistons 4 you want to pick?  Or Chandler and Kidd (since Dirk and Terry were the 2 best players).  Heck I'd almost take Bosh and Haslem over those two, because I think Bosh is by far the best player of those 4. 

It is hard to get read on what they will actually do in the 3rd and 4th roles because they have not been in those roles.  And here is the thing Thompson is a great shooter and a solid defender, but he doesn't rebound well, doesn't pass well, doesn't generate steals or blocks, etc.  He is basically a better shooting worse defending bigger version of Avery Bradley.  If you put Bradley on that team next to Curry, I'm not so sure you aren't talking about him like he is an All NBA player even though he is not.  Green is a do everything type player, but I'm not sure you could rely on him in a lead role.  He is perfectly suited to play second fiddle though, and I'd much rather have him on my team than Klay.  I just can't figure out if Green is a bigger version of Kidd, which makes him a 1st ballot HOF type player, or more like a Rasheed Wallace type player (obviously Green is a better passer than Sheed ever was), which is still very good, but not elite.

[LarBrd33]

Without KD, that team is still the favorite to win the title.  They won 73 games last year and came like 2 minutes away from being back-to-back champs.   

You could take Draymond and Klay off that team and it would still be the favorite to win the title.  Steph + Durant is SIGNIFICANTLY better than Westbrook + Durant (Westbrook is overrated).

That team is ridiculous.  Them jumping up 53 points and sitting the second half should be the norm.

[Tr1boy]

 Or pretty close to that. They also have three out of the top five shooters in the league. How are you supposed to beat this team? Good luck.

No they dont

[Donoghus]

 Or pretty close to that. They also have three out of the top five shooters in the league. How are you supposed to beat this team? Good luck.

No they dont

Who are your top 5 shooters in the NBA?

[Tr1boy]

Without KD, that team is still the favorite to win the title.  They won 73 games last year and came like 2 minutes away from being back-to-back champs.   

You could take Draymond and Klay off that team and it would still be the favorite to win the title.  Steph + Durant is SIGNIFICANTLY better than Westbrook + Durant (Westbrook is overrated).

That team is ridiculous.  Them jumping up 53 points and sitting the second half should be the norm.

No. Cavs are the fav

But with KD, yes

[LarBrd33]

Without KD, that team is still the favorite to win the title.  They won 73 games last year and came like 2 minutes away from being back-to-back champs.   

You could take Draymond and Klay off that team and it would still be the favorite to win the title.  Steph + Durant is SIGNIFICANTLY better than Westbrook + Durant (Westbrook is overrated).

That team is ridiculous.  Them jumping up 53 points and sitting the second half should be the norm.

No. Cavs are the fav

But with KD, yes

I strongly disagree.  Yes, it was impressive that the Cavs beat them, but they were the underdogs.  It's a testament to the godlike basketball abilities of LeBron James that they were able to pull off such a miraculous upset. 

33.2 points, 11.8 rebounds, 8.8 assists, 2.8 blocks, 2.4 steals, 52% shooting and 39% from three in the final 5 games (in which they won 4).  Unbelievable.

Despite this,  Golden State remained the favorites for the foreseeable future even without the addition of Durant.

[Tr1boy]

 Or pretty close to that. They also have three out of the top five shooters in the league. How are you supposed to beat this team? Good luck.

No they dont

Who are your top 5 shooters in the NBA?

Well he stated 4 of the top 15 players in the nba

Maybe in the top 20 but not top 10-15

Top shooters yes. Curry, Thompson, KD are up there

[Donoghus]

 Or pretty close to that. They also have three out of the top five shooters in the league. How are you supposed to beat this team? Good luck.

No they dont

Who are your top 5 shooters in the NBA?

Well he stated 4 of the top 15 players in the nba

Maybe in the top 20 but not top 10-15

Top shooters yes. Curry, Thompson, KD are up there

Just looking at the part you had quoted in your OP, it looks like you were saying they didn't have 3 of the top 5 shooters in the NBA.

[Tr1boy]

Without KD, that team is still the favorite to win the title.  They won 73 games last year and came like 2 minutes away from being back-to-back champs.   

You could take Draymond and Klay off that team and it would still be the favorite to win the title.  Steph + Durant is SIGNIFICANTLY better than Westbrook + Durant (Westbrook is overrated).

That team is ridiculous.  Them jumping up 53 points and sitting the second half should be the norm.

No. Cavs are the fav

But with KD, yes

I strongly disagree.  Yes, it was impressive that the Cavs beat them, but they were the underdogs.  It's a testament to the godlike basketball abilities of LeBron James that they were able to pull off such a miraculous upset.  Despite this,  Golden State remained the favorites for the foreseeable future even without the addition of Durant.

I re disagree

The year prior even without love/irving , cavs took them to 6

But with kd now, well...

[LarBrd33]

Without KD, that team is still the favorite to win the title.  They won 73 games last year and came like 2 minutes away from being back-to-back champs.   

You could take Draymond and Klay off that team and it would still be the favorite to win the title.  Steph + Durant is SIGNIFICANTLY better than Westbrook + Durant (Westbrook is overrated).

That team is ridiculous.  Them jumping up 53 points and sitting the second half should be the norm.

No. Cavs are the fav

But with KD, yes

I strongly disagree.  Yes, it was impressive that the Cavs beat them, but they were the underdogs.  It's a testament to the godlike basketball abilities of LeBron James that they were able to pull off such a miraculous upset.  Despite this,  Golden State remained the favorites for the foreseeable future even without the addition of Durant.

I re disagree

The year prior even without love/irving , cavs took them to 6

But with kd now, well...

Golden State was likely the favorite barring another godlike triumph from arguably the greatest player ever.   But yeah, it doesn't matter.  Because you're basically adding a LeBron to a team that was already the favorite to win the title.   That Golden State team is stupid stacked on a level we've never seen in Sports before outside of the Dream Team.

[Tr1boy]

Without KD, that team is still the favorite to win the title.  They won 73 games last year and came like 2 minutes away from being back-to-back champs.   

You could take Draymond and Klay off that team and it would still be the favorite to win the title.  Steph + Durant is SIGNIFICANTLY better than Westbrook + Durant (Westbrook is overrated).

That team is ridiculous.  Them jumping up 53 points and sitting the second half should be the norm.

No. Cavs are the fav

But with KD, yes

I strongly disagree.  Yes, it was impressive that the Cavs beat them, but they were the underdogs.  It's a testament to the godlike basketball abilities of LeBron James that they were able to pull off such a miraculous upset.  Despite this,  Golden State remained the favorites for the foreseeable future even without the addition of Durant.

I re disagree

The year prior even without love/irving , cavs took them to 6

But with kd now, well...

Golden State was likely the favorite barring another godlike triumph from arguably the greatest player ever.   But yeah, it doesn't matter.  Because you're basically adding a LeBron to a team that was already the favorite to win the title.   That Golden State team is stupid stacked on a level we've never seen in Sports before outside of the Dream Team.

goodluck to them...because if they don't win the it all, there could be a new curse. Called the KD curse

[Kaz]

Without KD, that team is still the favorite to win the title.  They won 73 games last year and came like 2 minutes away from being back-to-back champs.   

You could take Draymond and Klay off that team and it would still be the favorite to win the title.  Steph + Durant is SIGNIFICANTLY better than Westbrook + Durant (Westbrook is overrated).

That team is ridiculous.  Them jumping up 53 points and sitting the second half should be the norm.

No. Cavs are the fav

But with KD, yes

I strongly disagree.  Yes, it was impressive that the Cavs beat them, but they were the underdogs.  It's a testament to the godlike basketball abilities of LeBron James that they were able to pull off such a miraculous upset.  Despite this,  Golden State remained the favorites for the foreseeable future even without the addition of Durant.

I re disagree

The year prior even without love/irving , cavs took them to 6

But with kd now, well...

Golden State was likely the favorite barring another godlike triumph from arguably the greatest player ever.   But yeah, it doesn't matter.  Because you're basically adding a LeBron to a team that was already the favorite to win the title.   That Golden State team is stupid stacked on a level we've never seen in Sports before outside of the Dream Team.

goodluck to them...because if they don't win the it all, there could be a new curse. Called the KD curse

But Lil B lifted the Curse of the Based God from Durant this summer...