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the art dunking in games
« on: September 20, 2016, 03:46:00 AM »

Offline rollie mass

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there was a snap of jaylen dunking between the legs with ease -so i started looking at this and how it translates to game and it seems that jaylen took off from quite a distance and that triggered from memory, that green seems to get up higher and quicker using his head to rim as a measure and using game videos of him dunking
it just made me realize how little i know on dunking and its use in games
i give green the nod here for experience  in taking off in nba traffic and what looks to be height and verticality opposed to long jump  and power
the art of dunking  is more than the two points it can be electrifying or punishing ,it can be other wordly and awe inspiring or sometimes just boring and two points-but it must intimidate defense and break opponents moral leaving them very exposed to a high flyer back door or put  backs
rozier has vertical and uses it with his length to rebound-why is green not strong in this area-
is standing vertical more important than max vertical


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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2016, 04:31:44 AM »

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Quote from: rollie mass on September 20, 2016, 03:46:00 AM
there was a snap of jaylen dunking between the legs with ease -so i started looking at this and how it translates to game and it seems that jaylen took off from quite a distance and that triggered from memory, that green seems to get up higher and quicker using his head to rim as a measure and using game videos of him dunking
it just made me realize how little i know on dunking and its use in games
i give green the nod here for experience  in taking off in nba traffic and what looks to be height and verticality opposed to long jump  and power
the art of dunking  is more than the two points it can be electrifying or punishing ,it can be other wordly and awe inspiring or sometimes just boring and two points-but it must intimidate defense and break opponents moral leaving them very exposed to a high flyer back door or put  backs
rozier has vertical and uses it with his length to rebound-why is green not strong in this area-
is standing vertical more important than max vertical



 Rollie are you asking why is Green not a strong rebounder?

 If that's what your asking it's simply toughness.  Green is just an other worldly athlete that was a Marcus Smart's attitude away from being great.

 He still could be useful as a scorer and shooter though.

 What's awesome is the team is made up of Mean Dogs that do Dirty work. Smart, Bradley, Crowder, Brown, Rozier, all tough hard nosed kids, Thomas as a scrapper too.
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2016, 04:48:17 AM »

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 Put simply the best Dunkers are the most explosive, and best athlete's, and of course being good at basketball really helps.

 Vince Carter
 Jordan
 Wilkins
 Dr J
 Blake Griffin
 Sean Kemp

 All powerful explosive jumpers. Some guys are more smooth Athletic like Clyde the glide and Zach Lavine, but if you can jump 43" like Lavine can. Your a freak athlete.

 Gerald Green might jump higher than all of the best Dunkers ever, he's just not all there mentally.
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2016, 05:10:51 AM »

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my favorite dunks come off back door cuts where defenders play decent defense but are just so over matched in air they just act stunned,although that early poster dunk of blakes ranks up there on the intimidation board
i favor green because of his speed in transition which jaylen has, then my second favorite a slash through traffic and a super quick elevation for dunk
then i like smarts great steal for a bunny layup with everyone waiting for a slam
jackson has a 43 vertical like lavine
green can teach jaylen game time use of vertical,he the one with 10 years experience
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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2016, 06:41:50 AM »

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Dunking takes a mindset too, you have to be willing to do it and attack the rim.  Though most of the time, you can either do it or you can't.   

Vertical helps, strength to handle the ball through the contact of the rim helps too but a lot of it is wanting to impose your will on the other team.   That is what makes a dunk demoralizing, it shows your physical superioriy.
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2016, 08:11:28 AM »

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I love how jaylen can throw it down with either hand! His left hand tomahawks are as vicious as his right handed ones. Also love how he goes from a crossover into his dunk, he did that two times in the same game. Many future highlights to come, can't wait!  ;D
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2016, 04:09:51 PM »

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Fast breaks and easy buckets are the best way to break down an opponent's spirit. Maybe losing Fat Sully will open up the lane for some dunks.
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2016, 06:48:29 PM »

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Quote from: KG Living Legend on September 20, 2016, 04:48:17 AM

 Put simply the best Dunkers are the most explosive, and best athlete's, and of course being good at basketball really helps.

 Vince Carter
 Jordan
 Wilkins
 Dr J
 Blake Griffin


 Sean Kemp

 All powerful explosive jumpers. Some guys are more smooth Athletic like Clyde the glide and Zach Lavine, but if you can jump 43" like Lavine can. Your a freak athlete.

 Gerald Green might jump higher than all of the best Dunkers ever, he's just not all there mentally.

You do have to be able to get over the rim to throw it down, but being explosive doesn't mean you can dunk well in a game.

There are lots of guys who can really jump and can do incredible dunks in a layup line, but rarely dunk in games.

Consider Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett. Garnett could probably reach a foot higher if they both had a clear path, but Garnet struggled to dunk any time there was a defensive challenge. Pierce was much better at dunking over defenders.

Leaping ability, balance, strength, aggression and big hands all matter, but Garnett had all of those, and still was a lousy dunker. It's a particular type of talent. Some guys just don't get thrown off by defensive challenges and some do.
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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2016, 07:27:13 PM »

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Quote from: td450 on September 20, 2016, 06:48:29 PM
Quote from: KG Living Legend on September 20, 2016, 04:48:17 AM

 Put simply the best Dunkers are the most explosive, and best athlete's, and of course being good at basketball really helps.

 Vince Carter
 Jordan
 Wilkins
 Dr J
 Blake Griffin


 Sean Kemp

 All powerful explosive jumpers. Some guys are more smooth Athletic like Clyde the glide and Zach Lavine, but if you can jump 43" like Lavine can. Your a freak athlete.

 Gerald Green might jump higher than all of the best Dunkers ever, he's just not all there mentally.

You do have to be able to get over the rim to throw it down, but being explosive doesn't mean you can dunk well in a game.

There are lots of guys who can really jump and can do incredible dunks in a layup line, but rarely dunk in games.

Consider Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett. Garnett could probably reach a foot higher if they both had a clear path, but Garnet struggled to dunk any time there was a defensive challenge. Pierce was much better at dunking over defenders.

Leaping ability, balance, strength, aggression and big hands all matter, but Garnett had all of those, and still was a lousy dunker. It's a particular type of talent. Some guys just don't get thrown off by defensive challenges and some do.



 The one thing I have to disagree about KG is the strength thing. He was never that strong, he lacked that base that Phil Jackson talks about with Porzingis. Same problem. Really long and skinny.

 If Garnett had Shaq's butt muscles, he would have been one of the five best players ever.
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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2016, 08:23:30 AM »

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Quote from: td450 on September 20, 2016, 06:48:29 PM
Quote from: KG Living Legend on September 20, 2016, 04:48:17 AM

 Put simply the best Dunkers are the most explosive, and best athlete's, and of course being good at basketball really helps.

 Vince Carter
 Jordan
 Wilkins
 Dr J
 Blake Griffin


 Sean Kemp

 All powerful explosive jumpers. Some guys are more smooth Athletic like Clyde the glide and Zach Lavine, but if you can jump 43" like Lavine can. Your a freak athlete.

 Gerald Green might jump higher than all of the best Dunkers ever, he's just not all there mentally.

You do have to be able to get over the rim to throw it down, but being explosive doesn't mean you can dunk well in a game.

There are lots of guys who can really jump and can do incredible dunks in a layup line, but rarely dunk in games.

Consider Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett. Garnett could probably reach a foot higher if they both had a clear path, but Garnet struggled to dunk any time there was a defensive challenge. Pierce was much better at dunking over defenders.

Leaping ability, balance, strength, aggression and big hands all matter, but Garnett had all of those, and still was a lousy dunker. It's a particular type of talent. Some guys just don't get thrown off by defensive challenges and some do.

jaylen doesn't fear contact but it does throw off his shot at rim but i think green will be able to help jaylen with balance ,footwork and body control and how to survive and land-the when and how of a nba dunk
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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2016, 12:16:26 PM »

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To the topic, Jeff Green is one of my favorite in game dunkers of all time when he chose to really attack the rim.  Worthy-esque and truly incredible.

To me, Shawn Kemp is the best all time in game dunker.  Just incredible.
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2016, 03:56:01 PM »

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Not really off-topic. but "The Art Of Dunking in-Game" sounds like a sports illustrated promo-video from the 90's. It's all Shawn Kemp.
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