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Low credibility Noel rumor
« on: August 16, 2016, 03:21:45 PM »

Offline arctic 3.0

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This "report" cites "rumors" and  Yabida  ::)
Essentially useless BUT unlike a lot of these click bait headlines it works on the trade machine.
I'm not posting this as news but rather as a basis for discussion.

So you don't have to click the link here is the breakdown

To philly: Rubio
To Sota: Amir Johnson
To Boston: Nerlins

I think Philly would take this deal.

Boston would likely be happy to swap AJ for a younger shot blocking center though loosing AJ may have more impact on the squads mental make up then loosing his production.

Sota, I don't know. AJ  would provide steady vet presence and would slot in behind their young bigs on the rise but IDK.

What ya'll think?

Fair deal?
Lopsided?
Stop posting unsubstantiated rumors you click bait moron?



https://www.google.com/amp/www.parentherald.com/amp/articles/61340/20160815/nba-trade-rumors-celtics-76ers-timberwolves-blockbuster-three-way-involving.htm?client=safari

Re: Low credibility Noel rumor
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2016, 03:42:48 PM »

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Doesn't philly need more shooting? Rubio isn't the answer there.
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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Re: Low credibility Noel rumor
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2016, 04:35:04 PM »

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Doesn't philly need more shooting? Rubio isn't the answer there.

Doesn't everyone outside GS need shooting?

I think what philly wants is a steady hand to run the point and help facilitate the development of their lotto talent.

Rubio can do that, he will also take a bit of pressure of BS so he doesn't have to be THE playmaker on the team.

Re: Low credibility Noel rumor
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2016, 04:36:21 PM »

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Philly just drafted a 6'10" version of Rubio.


Re: Low credibility Noel rumor
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2016, 04:37:33 PM »

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I will entertain it like it is legit and say that would be a really good get for Philly for Noel. I kind of think this would be bad for Minny because Rubio is great at passing and I think could really help Towns and Wiggins moving forward whereas Lavine does not seem like as good a distrubutor.

Re: Low credibility Noel rumor
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2016, 04:40:19 PM »

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I will entertain it like it is legit and say that would be a really good get for Philly for Noel. I kind of think this would be bad for Minny because Rubio is great at passing and I think could really help Towns and Wiggins moving forward whereas Lavine does not seem like as good a distrubutor.

I thought Chris Dunn was the second coming?

Now he's on the wolves and he's relegated to chopped liver?

Re: Low credibility Noel rumor
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2016, 04:49:41 PM »

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From a basketball point of view, makes lots of sense all the way around.  Philly needs both a PG, and they also are taking the philosophy of adding mentor-esque vets to the roster.  Rubio fits both. 

Minny, now that they have Dunn, really should move on from Rubio.  Johnson would be a nice KG replacement for them moving forward. 

C's, actually, probably have the least to gain.  Is Noel ready to play in a win-now environment?  If he is, we'd be setup for the next decade.  Seems like a deal Ainge would make none the less. 


Re: Low credibility Noel rumor
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2016, 05:21:29 PM »

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I can see it for Philly.  Trading one somewhat disappointing high draft pick for another but at a decent contract and at a position of greater need all seems in order.  I can also see MIN trading Rubio for Noel straight up but I don't see why they need Boston in this.

For Boston, would we really trade Amir for Noel.  Doesn't seem like a win now trade although I think I would do it.  I just doubt Danny would do it.

Re: Low credibility Noel rumor
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2016, 05:25:47 PM »

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I can see it for Philly.  Trading one somewhat disappointing high draft pick for another but at a decent contract and at a position of greater need all seems in order.  I can also see MIN trading Rubio for Noel straight up but I don't see why they need Boston in this.

For Boston, would we really trade Amir for Noel.  Doesn't seem like a win now trade although I think I would do it.  I just doubt Danny would do it.

AJ is a great vet presence with a track record of helping teams take the next step in rebuilding. (At least he's been on two teams who have moved from rebuild to playoffs.)

He is the kind of player thibs will want around his young core.


Re: Low credibility Noel rumor
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2016, 05:27:01 PM »

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I can't see Minnesota making this trade for a one year rental of bench veteran.  I would think Rubio would have more value than that even though I think they do need to move on from Rubio. 

Frankly, I don't even know why Boston would need to be in this trade.  Why not just trade Rubio for Noel?  I think Noel could play with Towns since Towns has a pretty nice outside game and can guard most PF's.  It would give them a nice young 3 some with Towns, Noel, and Dieng with Aldrich as the 4th big.  They could then just try to move Pekovic to a desperate team (like the Lakers). 
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Re: Low credibility Noel rumor
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2016, 05:31:58 PM »

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I will entertain it like it is legit and say that would be a really good get for Philly for Noel. I kind of think this would be bad for Minny because Rubio is great at passing and I think could really help Towns and Wiggins moving forward whereas Lavine does not seem like as good a distrubutor.

I thought Chris Dunn was the second coming?

Now he's on the wolves and he's relegated to chopped liver?

Not sure where saying Rubio can get Wiggins and Towns the ball in good spots mean's I think Kris Dunn is chopped liver. I view Dunn as more of a scoring guard (which I think most people do) so while there is some overlap and defensive issues, why can't they play together? Also, I think they are trying to make the playoffs sooner rather than later and there is a much better chance of that happening with a veteran pg.

Re: Low credibility Noel rumor
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2016, 06:01:11 PM »

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I will entertain it like it is legit and say that would be a really good get for Philly for Noel. I kind of think this would be bad for Minny because Rubio is great at passing and I think could really help Towns and Wiggins moving forward whereas Lavine does not seem like as good a distrubutor.

I thought Chris Dunn was the second coming?

Now he's on the wolves and he's relegated to chopped liver?

Not sure where saying Rubio can get Wiggins and Towns the ball in good spots mean's I think Kris Dunn is chopped liver. I view Dunn as more of a scoring guard (which I think most people do) so while there is some overlap and defensive issues, why can't they play together? Also, I think they are trying to make the playoffs sooner rather than later and there is a much better chance of that happening with a veteran pg.

I hear ya,
just poking a little fun at the whole celticsblog ethos.

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Re: Low credibility Noel rumor
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2016, 06:16:59 PM »

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 I've seen a lot of Kris Dunn and I think he actually needs to be more aggressive scoring the ball and is a good distributor.

 I think Philly needs more than Amir in return. A one year rental for Amir, not good enough.

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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2016, 06:19:42 PM »

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 I've seen a lot of Kris Dunn and I think he actually needs to be more aggressive scoring the ball and is a good distributor.

 I think Philly needs more than Amir in return. A one year rental for Amir, not good enough.

Philly is getting Rubio in this version...

Re: Low credibility Noel rumor
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2016, 06:26:45 PM »

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I can see it for Philly.  Trading one somewhat disappointing high draft pick for another but at a decent contract and at a position of greater need all seems in order.  I can also see MIN trading Rubio for Noel straight up but I don't see why they need Boston in this.

For Boston, would we really trade Amir for Noel.  Doesn't seem like a win now trade although I think I would do it.  I just doubt Danny would do it.

It doesn't seem to be a win now deal, but it's deal that gives us his RFA rights next offseason while possibly still being able to fit a max free agent with cap space.  We would probably have to give up a little more considering Amir's UFA status next offseason.  Maybe expand the deal a little to help with our roster logjam.

to Boston: Noel
to Philly: Rubio and James Young
to Minnesota: Johnson and RJ Hunter

Works in the trade machine and maybe throw in lower level picks if you need to.

I could possibly get behind that deal taking a chance on Noel's development.