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Re: Demarcus Cousins attrocious
« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2016, 11:06:36 PM »

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Between the way the Olympic game is officiated and the relative poor fit of Team USA with a bunch of individuals with no real team, I can't imagine a worse environment for Cousins to succeed in than that. It's hardly fair to judge him based on this little bit rather than his years of NBA experience.
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Re: Demarcus Cousins attrocious
« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2016, 12:49:24 AM »

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Right because he's been such a hinderance to the team and has been a major factor in all those team USA loses this year....Oh wait.

He has been a major hindrance as to why this team is dominant anymore. In fact they are beatable, by these small countries.

Re: Demarcus Cousins attrocious
« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2016, 03:15:21 AM »

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Right because he's been such a hinderance to the team and has been a major factor in all those team USA loses this year....Oh wait.

He has been a major hindrance as to why this team is dominant anymore. In fact they are beatable, by these small countries.

That has nothing to do with cousins being on the team, and everything to do with the fact that team USA doesn't play at all like a team.

Watching that game against Australia, the entire offense pretty much revolved around Melo and KD isolating and chucking up contested jumpers.  The world's teams have gotten much stronger over the past few years, and the US can't just go in expecting to get 30 point blowouts without trying anymore.

Re: Demarcus Cousins attrocious
« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2016, 05:14:50 AM »

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Totally amateur attitude towards Cousins as a player. If you look closely how whole US team takes their opponents, you will realize that they're all underestimating others. Quite close winns against Australia, Serbia and France.
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Re: Demarcus Cousins attrocious
« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2016, 07:56:41 AM »

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Cousins is shooting 68% from the field, 7th best among all players. He's first in the Olympic tournament in offensive rebounds. He's only gotten 25 shots total. He's hardly the "problem".


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Re: Demarcus Cousins attrocious
« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2016, 08:37:35 AM »

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Cousins is shooting 68% from the field, 7th best among all players. He's first in the Olympic tournament in offensive rebounds. He's only gotten 25 shots total. He's hardly the "problem".

Hard to take much from games vs China and Venezuela, but in the last 2 games versus much tougher competition (France & Serbia) he's had 9 turnovers and USA is minus 2 with him on the floor.

Re: Demarcus Cousins attrocious
« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2016, 08:55:13 AM »

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Between the way the Olympic game is officiated and the relative poor fit of Team USA with a bunch of individuals with no real team, I can't imagine a worse environment for Cousins to succeed in than that. It's hardly fair to judge him based on this little bit rather than his years of NBA experience.
Do like this point. Cousins is probably better focused when he is slighted and has a chip. Isn't that the whole C's MO right now? I have no issues adding him to the C's at the right cost.

Re: Demarcus Cousins attrocious
« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2016, 10:41:26 AM »

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With how coach K is using DJ and DMC hassan would have been better going along with DJ. There is very few postups and normally there with the shotclock winding down. DJ thrives because coach K uses his wing players all DJ has to do is catch lobs and play D thats what he does with the clips but its not in DMC's game he likes to shoot jumpers and post up with NBA rules.

Re: Demarcus Cousins attrocious
« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2016, 10:43:10 AM »

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Every time I see him play, I come away thinking the same thing. I wouldn't want him any where near this Celtic team. 

Re: Demarcus Cousins attrocious
« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2016, 10:49:16 AM »

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I knew this for a while, but watching the olympics gives the opportunity for fans to see how bad this guy can be

He is not a winning basketball player. As you get older, you start to throw away all the stupid hype talk from every end of the spectrum. You start to break down the reality of basketball.

If you start watching Euroleague ball as well as the entire world basketball you become even more smarter, then you begin to see how NBA players are not as good as advertised.

With all that said you see the differences of team basketball and one on one ball.

You also see how FIBA basketball play defense. They do not give you 5 feet to shoot at will like the NBA does, they play tight.

You watch Cousins and you realize he is a drifter basketball player, posing as an All Star. He need the ball, or he becomes a lazy worthless ball player on offense. Defensively he is attrocious. Lazy, non caring, also low low IQ.

No way you want a guy like Cousins here to win a ring. The team he is on , any team , besides maybe a Warriors team will not win a ring.




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If Cousins  played for Red Auerbach and he had this attitude.  Red would get him more touches.
Some players defense feeds off their offense.  Cousins many be one of those, as you so aptly pointed out.  It doesn't make him a bad attitude.  I think you have to put more of this  on the coaches.  Team chemistry at the defensive end, starts with the coaches.

Cousins only having 25 shots and shooting over 60 percent. Perhaps team USA shouldn't  be playing so much iso basketball.  The system seems to be outside, dribble drive.

I don't think that your observations are wrong,  but I also don't think its fair to put this all on Cousins. I think he remains a product of the players around him. And that might never change.
Are you forgetting that he has been in Sacramento  where all coaches have pretty much been axed when they tried to instill discipline in him. 
Cousins remains a gifted player with a flawed attitude. Not unlike many of today's athletes.
Still, I'd welcome him to Boston, in a Faneuil Hall heartbeat with a Bill Russell dinner and conversation.
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Re: Demarcus Cousins attrocious
« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2016, 11:06:29 AM »

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I knew this for a while, but watching the olympics gives the opportunity for fans to see how bad this guy can be

He is not a winning basketball player. As you get older, you start to throw away all the stupid hype talk from every end of the spectrum. You start to break down the reality of basketball.

If you start watching Euroleague ball as well as the entire world basketball you become even more smarter, then you begin to see how NBA players are not as good as advertised.

With all that said you see the differences of team basketball and one on one ball.

You also see how FIBA basketball play defense. They do not give you 5 feet to shoot at will like the NBA does, they play tight.

You watch Cousins and you realize he is a drifter basketball player, posing as an All Star. He need the ball, or he becomes a lazy worthless ball player on offense. Defensively he is attrocious. Lazy, non caring, also low low IQ.

No way you want a guy like Cousins here to win a ring. The team he is on , any team , besides maybe a Warriors team will not win a ring.




When we are evaluating a basketball team. All you have to do is ask yourself one question.
The answer to that question will often result in solving the problem.

WWRD

What would Red Do?


If Cousins  played for Red Auerbach and he had this attitude.  Red would get him more touches.
Some players defense feeds off their offense.  Cousins many be one of those, as you so aptly pointed out.  It doesn't make him a bad attitude.  I think you have to put more of this  on the coaches.  Team chemistry at the defensive end, starts with the coaches.

Cousins only having 25 shots and shooting over 60 percent. Perhaps team USA shouldn't  be playing so much iso basketball.  The system seems to be outside, dribble drive.

I don't think that your observations are wrong,  but I also don't think its fair to put this all on Cousins. I think he remains a product of the players around him. And that might never change.
Are you forgetting that he has been in Sacramento  where all coaches have pretty much been axed when they tried to instill discipline in him. 
Cousins remains a gifted player with a flawed attitude. Not unlike many of today's athletes.
Still, I'd welcome him to Boston, in a Faneuil Hall heartbeat with a Bill Russell dinner and conversation.
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Re: Demarcus Cousins attrocious
« Reply #41 on: August 15, 2016, 12:20:43 PM »

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Right because he's been such a hinderance to the team and has been a major factor in all those team USA loses this year....Oh wait.

He has been a major hindrance as to why this team is dominant anymore. In fact they are beatable, by these small countries.

That has nothing to do with cousins being on the team, and everything to do with the fact that team USA doesn't play at all like a team.

Watching that game against Australia, the entire offense pretty much revolved around Melo and KD isolating and chucking up contested jumpers.  The world's teams have gotten much stronger over the past few years, and the US can't just go in expecting to get 30 point blowouts without trying anymore.

This. Nailed it. TP.


Re: Demarcus Cousins attrocious
« Reply #42 on: August 15, 2016, 01:28:47 PM »

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I once believed I would take AD over Cousins, but my mindset has changed.

Cousins is a monster. He can dribble from full court to finishing with a tomahawk dunk with a behind the back shake and bake on another big men.

You can't stop him. Only Cousins can stop himself.

He's one of the only big man who can consistently knock down 3's, hit mid range shots, dribble, pass, defend, and most importantly still one of the most dominant low post scorers in the game...

If he had the right team, he could certainly be the go to guy.
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Re: Demarcus Cousins attrocious
« Reply #43 on: August 15, 2016, 01:42:07 PM »

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Cousins is another Derrick Coleman. Coleman had huge talent, there isn't much Coleman couldn't do, but he couldn't stop acting like a nitwit, until finally his time ran out.

The Kings of last year had enough talent to win 46-48 games. They needed someone to unite them, and lead by example, and Demarcus simply didn't show up.

Frankly, he needs someone to lead him.

Or a coach the team doesn't quit on



 
Weak minded, immature players quite on a coach. It's not like he's being asked to go to combat and risk his life. Leaders unite, and lead by example. They don't second guess strategy, unless they have a history of being a winner.

Of which he doesn't.

Re: Demarcus Cousins attrocious
« Reply #44 on: August 15, 2016, 02:03:21 PM »

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Right because he's been such a hinderance to the team and has been a major factor in all those team USA loses this year....Oh wait.

He has been a major hindrance as to why this team is dominant anymore. In fact they are beatable, by these small countries.

That has nothing to do with cousins being on the team, and everything to do with the fact that team USA doesn't play at all like a team.

Watching that game against Australia, the entire offense pretty much revolved around Melo and KD isolating and chucking up contested jumpers.  The world's teams have gotten much stronger over the past few years, and the US can't just go in expecting to get 30 point blowouts without trying anymore.

This. Nailed it. TP.

This particular USA team is a bunch of chuckers to me.