Nerlens Noel Tweet- Overreaction Time

[LilRip]

If the rumors are true, not sure how much I like the Brown for Noel swap. All I have is summer league to base it on but I think Brown will be an impact player in this league.

[Surferdad]

I dunno. Looking at Noel's tweets, taking down his Sixers/Philly identity, talking Boston up, I think there's a decent chance something happens in the next week or two.

The Sixers can't get a lot for him since his contract is up next year. Rozier plus something else --another guard or non-Nets pick--might be reasonable. I doubt it's necessary to extend him--they'll probably be able to sign him next year if they want to.

hmmm maybe, but only based upon a few tweets.  There's really isn't any other driver to make a deal before the season starts.  Even though Colangelo has stated he is "uncomfortable" (his own word) going into the season with the current frontcourt situation, that doesn't mean it will happen.  He can be uncomfortable and still on balance prefer to see if Embiid can actually play, and if Saric is legit.  Those factors could outweigh his lack of comfort.

[MBunge]

Ainge is not trading Brown for Noel.  He already presumably said no the trading the third pick for Noel or Okafor.  If Philly throws in the Lakers pick, that would be hard to turn down.  If there's an offer, it is probably something like Rozier, KO, Young and a non-Brooklyn pick for Noel and Covington and we're just waiting to see if Philly can do any better.

Mike

[bogg]

If the rumors are true, not sure how much I like the Brown for Noel swap. All I have is summer league to base it on but I think Brown will be an impact player in this league.

There are no rumors, just Philly fans online still clinging to the idea that drafting three straight one-position players at the same position somehow put the Sixers in a position of strength.

[celticsclay]

If the rumors are true, not sure how much I like the Brown for Noel swap. All I have is summer league to base it on but I think Brown will be an impact player in this league.

There are no rumors, just Philly fans online still clinging to the idea that drafting three straight one-position players at the same position somehow put the Sixers in a position of strength.

yes just to be clear there haven't been even rumors, even at the used car salesman insider level of twitter. I think the only place the brown for noel idea was even posted was on this board. In addition to all the obvious reasons we wouldn't trade Brown (very unusual to draft a guy, make him learn your system, meet teammates and coaching stafff then immediately trade him) we also really do need Brown for wing depth. That is the position with probably the least depth on our team as it is really just Crowder and him. I think Brown will probably be expected to played 10-15 minutes of really tough defense at the wing and use a few hard fouls (while playing a few minutes at other positions)

[Moranis]

If the rumors are true, not sure how much I like the Brown for Noel swap. All I have is summer league to base it on but I think Brown will be an impact player in this league.

There are no rumors, just Philly fans online still clinging to the idea that drafting three straight one-position players at the same position somehow put the Sixers in a position of strength.

yes just to be clear there haven't been even rumors, even at the used car salesman insider level of twitter. I think the only place the brown for noel idea was even posted was on this board. In addition to all the obvious reasons we wouldn't trade Brown (very unusual to draft a guy, make him learn your system, meet teammates and coaching stafff then immediately trade him) we also really do need Brown for wing depth. That is the position with probably the least depth on our team as it is really just Crowder and him. I think Brown will probably be expected to played 10-15 minutes of really tough defense at the wing and use a few hard fouls (while playing a few minutes at other positions)

several credible writers said that Philly offered Noel, Covington, and their two late 1sts for 3 (which they would have used on Dunn not Brown). 

[bogg]

If the rumors are true, not sure how much I like the Brown for Noel swap. All I have is summer league to base it on but I think Brown will be an impact player in this league.

There are no rumors, just Philly fans online still clinging to the idea that drafting three straight one-position players at the same position somehow put the Sixers in a position of strength.

yes just to be clear there haven't been even rumors, even at the used car salesman insider level of twitter. I think the only place the brown for noel idea was even posted was on this board. In addition to all the obvious reasons we wouldn't trade Brown (very unusual to draft a guy, make him learn your system, meet teammates and coaching stafff then immediately trade him) we also really do need Brown for wing depth. That is the position with probably the least depth on our team as it is really just Crowder and him. I think Brown will probably be expected to played 10-15 minutes of really tough defense at the wing and use a few hard fouls (while playing a few minutes at other positions)

several credible writers said that Philly offered Noel, Covington, and their two late 1sts for 3 (which they would have used on Dunn not Brown).

....to draft Dunn, and they were turned down. If you believe the rumor mill Ainge was willing to move just the pick for Noel and the Lakers pick, and Philly wouldn't do that to take the guy they want, and so Ainge got his Justise Winslow facsimile a year late. Nobody outside of message boards have said anything about a Brown-for-Noel swap now being considered.

[celticsclay]

If the rumors are true, not sure how much I like the Brown for Noel swap. All I have is summer league to base it on but I think Brown will be an impact player in this league.

There are no rumors, just Philly fans online still clinging to the idea that drafting three straight one-position players at the same position somehow put the Sixers in a position of strength.

yes just to be clear there haven't been even rumors, even at the used car salesman insider level of twitter. I think the only place the brown for noel idea was even posted was on this board. In addition to all the obvious reasons we wouldn't trade Brown (very unusual to draft a guy, make him learn your system, meet teammates and coaching stafff then immediately trade him) we also really do need Brown for wing depth. That is the position with probably the least depth on our team as it is really just Crowder and him. I think Brown will probably be expected to played 10-15 minutes of really tough defense at the wing and use a few hard fouls (while playing a few minutes at other positions)

several credible writers said that Philly offered Noel, Covington, and their two late 1sts for 3 (which they would have used on Dunn not Brown).

Moranis that is not what we are talking about. We are talking about now, in the past week when Larbrd made a joke video about Noel changing his twitter photo and opined it was because he was getting traded for Brown. I was trying to clear up that is the only current connection between Brown and Noel is Larbrd's joke and no reporters are saying that is a thing. However, now you have just added to the confusion. Great post.

[Moranis]

If the rumors are true, not sure how much I like the Brown for Noel swap. All I have is summer league to base it on but I think Brown will be an impact player in this league.

There are no rumors, just Philly fans online still clinging to the idea that drafting three straight one-position players at the same position somehow put the Sixers in a position of strength.

yes just to be clear there haven't been even rumors, even at the used car salesman insider level of twitter. I think the only place the brown for noel idea was even posted was on this board. In addition to all the obvious reasons we wouldn't trade Brown (very unusual to draft a guy, make him learn your system, meet teammates and coaching stafff then immediately trade him) we also really do need Brown for wing depth. That is the position with probably the least depth on our team as it is really just Crowder and him. I think Brown will probably be expected to played 10-15 minutes of really tough defense at the wing and use a few hard fouls (while playing a few minutes at other positions)

several credible writers said that Philly offered Noel, Covington, and their two late 1sts for 3 (which they would have used on Dunn not Brown).

Moranis that is not what we are talking about. We are talking about now, in the past week when Larbrd made a joke video about Noel changing his twitter photo and opined it was because he was getting traded for Brown. I was trying to clear up that is the only current connection between Brown and Noel is Larbrd's joke and no reporters are saying that is a thing. However, now you have just added to the confusion. Great post.

No confusion added, my point was simple, if we didn't trade 3 for Noel, Covington, 24 and 26, then we aren't going to trade Brown for Noel unless we are getting something else of real value back from Philly (like say the LAL or PHI's own pick), which isn't going to happen.  Of course, Brown makes no sense at all for Philly because they are going to play Simmons at SF. 

[LarBrd33]

Guys, forget everything I've said thus far.  I think there's more to this than we think. 

I did a little detective work and inspected Nerlens Noel's "black" twitter profile picture to see if anything appeared in Photoshop when the exposure was increased.  Made a video:  https://youtu.be/4jSNLqAoQaE

Guys, forget everything I've said thus far.  I think there's more to this than we think. 

I did a little detective work and inspected Nerlens Noel's "black" twitter profile picture to see if anything appeared in Photoshop when the exposure was increased.  Made a video:  https://youtu.be/4jSNLqAoQaE

FYI, the video was shared on a couple 76ers blogs, had something like 4000 views, got tweeted out to Noel, and he's now removed the hidden message profile pic and replaced it with a still image from this scene from "Paid in Full":



He's definitely either making a statement via twitter or trolling.  There's no doubt whatsoever.   I guess now we just need to wait until August 26th.

I thought you were trolling. But then I actually saw he changed his pic lol.

I hope we actually don't trade Brown for Noel. If Danny wanted to do that, he could have gotten Noel, Covington, 24 and 26 from philly on draft night.

Wait, I am so confused. I just thought that LarBrd33 was on some intricate trolling roll with that video. Are people saying that actually happened with the Noel picture?? Or is LarBrd33 basically "rick rolling" all of us right now?? Lol

That's what I thought. LarBrd, do us a favor and upload that pic you saved onto your computer in that video.

[LarBrd33]

Thesixersense.com has an article today saying the team needs to trade Noel.

http://thesixersense.com/2016/08/15/the-philadelphia-76ers-need-to-get-rid-of-nerlens-noel/

The two trade options they offer:

#1 - Noel for Marcus Smart and Boston's 2017 1st (which Boston can't actually do since they can't trade their own 2017 1st)

#2 - Noel for Avery Bradley

[celticsclay]

Thesixersense.com has an article today saying the team needs to trade Noel.

http://thesixersense.com/2016/08/15/the-philadelphia-76ers-need-to-get-rid-of-nerlens-noel/

The two trade options they offer:

#1 - Noel for Marcus Smart and Boston's 2017 1st (which Boston can't actually do since they can't trade their own 2017 1st)

#2 - Noel for Avery Bradley

Hard to take an article seriously when the first trade isn't possible eh?

[MBunge]

Thesixersense.com has an article today saying the team needs to trade Noel.

http://thesixersense.com/2016/08/15/the-philadelphia-76ers-need-to-get-rid-of-nerlens-noel/

The two trade options they offer:

#1 - Noel for Marcus Smart and Boston's 2017 1st (which Boston can't actually do since they can't trade their own 2017 1st)

#2 - Noel for Avery Bradley

Does Noel have this reality-distortion field around him from being the first real fruit of the Hinkie tank?

He's been a starter, playing good defense but putting up meh rebounding and terrible offense, on one of the worst teams in league history and they expect to get...

1.  A promising lottery pick and another first?
2.  A proven starter on a playoff team?

I mean, Smart for Noel straight up at least makes a certain amount of sense.  Thinking Ainge is going to thrown in a pick?  That's ridiculous.

Mike

[A Future of Stevens]

Thesixersense.com has an article today saying the team needs to trade Noel.

http://thesixersense.com/2016/08/15/the-philadelphia-76ers-need-to-get-rid-of-nerlens-noel/

The two trade options they offer:

#1 - Noel for Marcus Smart and Boston's 2017 1st (which Boston can't actually do since they can't trade their own 2017 1st)

#2 - Noel for Avery Bradley

Does Noel have this reality-distortion field around him from being the first real fruit of the Hinkie tank?

He's been a starter, playing good defense but putting up meh rebounding and terrible offense, on one of the worst teams in league history and they expect to get...

1.  A promising lottery pick and another first?
2.  A proven starter on a playoff team?

I mean, Smart for Noel straight up at least makes a certain amount of sense.  Thinking Ainge is going to thrown in a pick?  That's ridiculous.

Mike

I think option 1.) Is just the writer not doing their due diligence. They probably think it is a pick in the 20s which honeslty seems to be more consistent value aka smart and a late 1st. It is alot less outlandish than smart and the possible 1-3 overall.

[LarBrd33]

Thesixersense.com has an article today saying the team needs to trade Noel.

http://thesixersense.com/2016/08/15/the-philadelphia-76ers-need-to-get-rid-of-nerlens-noel/

The two trade options they offer:

#1 - Noel for Marcus Smart and Boston's 2017 1st (which Boston can't actually do since they can't trade their own 2017 1st)

#2 - Noel for Avery Bradley

Hard to take an article seriously when the first trade isn't possible eh?

I pointed it out and the author said he should have just put "Marcus Smart + a future 1st rounder". 

He compares Smart to Shumpert in the article, which is actually pretty accurate thus far.   Here's his full text on Smart.  Interesting to see fans from other teams size up our assets:

This is the type of scenario that has Boston fans all riled up. For some reason, they believe that Marcus Smart is going to be a franchise star. Many of the Celtics faithful are appalled at this trade scenario saying that it is not giving Smart enough trade value. I have seen multiple people through forums and articles quote the CARMELO formula by FiveThirtyEight as ‘proof’ that Smart will be a star one day.

For those that are not familiar already, this formula uses a set of metrics to find any players most comparable (past and present) NBA players on a points system. It then uses those metrics and comps players to attempt to accurately predict a player’s future performance, wins above replacement and market value. While I do believe the formula is intriguing and could provide predictive data, it is extremely flawed to be using it as your only basis when deciding if a player is good or that they will be in the future.

This formula lists Marcus Smart in the “Future All-Star” category and Boston Celtics fans will go to war defending that. What is interesting to me though, is that this is the same formula that lists Avery Bradley as “Average starter” when he has better ratings than Smart in any Scoring metric and is only slightly worse in the defensive categories. It also lists Kent Bazemore as a “Rotational Player” when he is nearly better than Smart in every metric aside from draft position. It is also worth noting that Smart’s top comparison is Iman Shumpert and that is the part that I strongly agree with.

Like Shumpert, Smart brings a strong defensive presence and is good at attacking the rim and drawing fouls. This is something the Sixers did not have much of, if at all, last season. That being said, Smart will need to drastically improve his shooting efficiency as he has averaged under 36 percent from the field since entering the league.