Sooo No takers on Stephenson

[spikelovetheCelts]

I can't say who he is or what he does but chances are people like gms, coaches and players know more about Lance than fans or people on a message board. Just because we don't hear anything substantial about him doesn't mean a thing because chances are, we don't know 10% of what actually goes on inside the NBA. Look at all the times people fail drug tests before we hear about it and that's only because of a suspension. They keep a tight lip on people but it is getting harder now that we have social media and the cheapest phones have cameras/video .

I believe you are right here. Lance is more than meets the eye. Bird said he is not bringing him back, maybe that will change. There is not many teams with money left. The Nets are the team who I thought would try and with Marks not doing anything. He must be poison.

[ThaPreacher]

I actually thought he played decent in Memphs. Not set the world on fire, but enough to get a vet minimum... perhaps he has gotten vet minimum offers and has turned them down.

He actually did set the world on fire

Memphis as posted
In 26 minutes off the bench

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/4244/lance-stephenson

Now let's do a comparison shall we......


 Lance Steph     (26 MPG)    14.2 PPG     .474 Shooting %    .355 3PT %    .815 FT %    4.4 RPG
 Marcus Smart  (27.3 MPG)  9.1  PPG     .348 Shooting %   .253 3PT %     .777 FT %    4.2 RPG   
 Gerald Green   (22.6 MPG)  8.9  PPG      .392 Shooting %    .323 3PT %     .783 FT %    2.8 RPG


Give Lance 35 minutes a game, likely  he is close to 20 PPG and 7 RPG. 
 
So there must be a story within a story.I'm surprised no one seems to know. Lance Stephenson clearly has a ton of potential and ability. His performance in Memphis again reflects this.
I think that Lance has to invest in Lance, before anyone else is willing to.

[Beat LA]

He seems like a real locker room cancer. There weren't any juicey stories out of Memphis but they didn't want him after the Clippers gave up on him and he tanked the two locker rooms he was in before those teams. If he was still playing at a near-all star level like he was that one year in Indiana, maybe someone could take a flier on him, but he's not.

I saw an interview where Doc said that he was shocked at how someone with his physical tools could be such a bad defender, to which I thought, "right, because Jamal Crawford is first team all defense (sarcasm)." I mean, seriously?  Doc couldn't figure out how to use Stephenson, at all, either?  Wow . He would have really helped against the Blazers, imo, but whatever .

[max215]

He was pretty good in Memphis. I'd assume he really is that much of a headcase.

[Beat LA]

my question is did he do something that p---ed off brass in Memphis & the NBA?

Yes, he sucked.

Trolling LeBron James will only get you that far.

If by 'sucked' you mean averaging a career best in ppg in 26 games for Memphis, only 3 of which were starts, setting personal bests in terms of percentage from 3 and at the line (I don't count his slightly better ft% from his rookie year due to the sample size) while also turning in his second best year in terms of overall fg%, and playing extremely well for the Grizzlies against the Spurs in the playoffs, then yes, he 'sucked' .

Unfortunately, and while I've always been a big fan of his on the court (as his off court actions are, at the absolute minimum, deplorable), I just don't see how he fits on our team.  He should have stayed in Indiana, in my view.  Put him on last year's Pacers, as opposed to Monta Ellis, and they likely beat the Raptors, and perhaps in far fewer games .

Personally, I don't understand why the Mavs elected to re-sign the corpse of Deron Williams instead of, say, signing Lance.  Start him at point guard, along with Matthews, Barnes, Dirk, and Bogut, and that has the makings of a very good team, on both ends, imo .

Got to slightly disagree with you. Unlike many on this forum. ( I really hope i'm wrong) but I don't think Brown is ready yet. He's only 19. Many on this forum seems to think he's the solution at the 3. Maybe in about 2 years but I don't see it. So we have Gerald Green at the 3 (who i'm still not that high on) and ............Mckey, Young , Holland? I mean I'm looking at all our 3's and I'm sorry I'd rather take a chance on a Lance who is well aware he needs to get his act together. As he did in Memphis. The clippers had too many 3's on the squad he really didn't fit in. Other than him being a disappointment in Charlotte... Again someone tell me some things he has done that would make the title "locker room cancer" fit him.

I'm with you, there, but at the same time, the guy was, for better or worse, the 3rd pick in the draft, and if we keep signing such reclamation projects like Turner, and I guess a 'shooter' in Gerald Green, how is he ever going to get on the court?  There's no point in drafting players if you never give them any minutes, and I don't mean in the d-league.  I say play him until he fouls out, bc you can only get better through experience, but I'm not getting my hopes up in terms of him making a substantial impact this year until I see him on an actual NBA court, and even then, I'll still be skeptical, but he does need to develop.  Period.

As for the locker room stuff, the guy got into a fistfight with Evan Turner while the two of them were in Indiana, iirc, although I can't remember the exact details.

[Tr1boy]

He needs the ball in his hands to be effective and play with fire

Pacers situation was near ideal for him. Hill is not a true pg but defends pg.  So lance could handle the ball alot

Lance imo would fit here like turner did. I think he is a talent but kocky and misunderstood.  Lacks leadership. Needs to be surrounded by leaders

[tarheelsxxiii]

He needs the ball in his hands to be effective and play with fire

Pacers situation was near ideal for him. Hill is not a true pg but defends pg.  So lance could handle the ball alot

Despite the fact that you're solely responsible for my dislike of J. Mickey, triboy, I agree with this. He may be a knucklehead, but you can't take away the fact that he was arguably the 2nd best player in that series AND didn't back down from LBJ at any point. Bird was sharp enough to get the best out of him at that particular time.

When effectively reigned in, you can't deny the significant roles that guys like JR Smith and Draymond played in title runs, that Nate Rob did for the Bulls in a playoff series, Delonte and Sheed provided us at one point, etc. And for as much as we all clamor for Boogie, there's no doubt he would come with a degree of similar challenges. A reigned in knucklehead can do wonders for a team's intensity and confidence.

[crimson_stallion]

Ok, I know  , I know I seem like a cheerleader for the guy. (I guess i'm on a planet by myself because i would LOVE to see him in green) but my question is did he do something that p---ed off brass in Memphis & the NBA? For the life of me I can't understand how teams are seriously looking and considering bringing back Ray Allen, Stephen Jackson, Rip Hamilton & old man Derek Fisher , but no takers on a 25 yr old Lance Stephenson who proved he had some gas left in the tank this past season in memphis?
 Hell even "nut case" Michael Beasley is on a roster. Someone , other than the "blowing in Lebron's ear" fiasco, why is Lance Stephenson getting dumped on like he's sprewell immediately after the choking incident. Metta world Peace. Old , LONG history of being a cancer , responsible for the brawl in the palace but he's good?
 Just saying we still have a weakness at the 3, we sure could use some "toughness" I don't see why a low-ball one year Stephenson contract will be such a terrible thing.

Because he's a d**chebag, a headcase and a locker-room cancer of the highest level and has not proven useful on a single team since he left Indiana.  I want him nowhere near this locker-room.

[crimson_stallion]

He needs the ball in his hands to be effective and play with fire

Pacers situation was near ideal for him. Hill is not a true pg but defends pg.  So lance could handle the ball alot

Lance imo would fit here like turner did. I think he is a talent but kocky and misunderstood.  Lacks leadership. Needs to be surrounded by leaders

Wasn't he in LA with Doc Rivers, Paul Pierce and Chris Paul on the same roster?  Can't get much better leadership then that.

I know people here have their hatred towards Doc, and that people criticism his "X and O" decision making - but Doc has always been an exceptionally good motivator.  He's one of the best coaches in the league in that regard.

Chris Paul is basically a modern day John Stockton. 

Pierce is one of the great leaders of this era.

If Stephenson couldn't snap out of it around those guys, good luck ever getting through to him.

[chiken Green]

Some guys might not want to hear this but the current Celtic big Guns Are not going to win us a Chip.. It's the younger guys  in shadows who will do it for us... Smart & Brown, Rozier  will be the work horses when we are finally a contender.  Bringing in Another Ball dominate non starter will directly effect their development..
Lance is not a

(And IF we do make a serious run it will be all about our chemistry - which has not been lances Strong suit with any team so far)

We need for our Youth to step up.. Bringing in pieces that stifle their playing time will not help us down the road.

[greece66]

He needs the ball in his hands to be effective and play with fire

Pacers situation was near ideal for him. Hill is not a true pg but defends pg.  So lance could handle the ball alot

Despite the fact that you're solely responsible for my dislike of J. Mickey, triboy, I agree with this. He may be a knucklehead, but you can't take away the fact that he was arguably the 2nd best player in that series AND didn't back down from LBJ at any point. Bird was sharp enough to get the best out of him at that particular time.

When effectively reigned in, you can't deny the significant roles that guys like JR Smith and Draymond played in title runs, that Nate Rob did for the Bulls in a playoff series, Delonte and Sheed provided us at one point, etc. And for as much as we all clamor for Boogie, there's no doubt he would come with a degree of similar challenges. A reigned in knucklehead can do wonders for a team's intensity and confidence.

how did Triboy do this? 

[Beat LA]

He needs the ball in his hands to be effective and play with fire

Pacers situation was near ideal for him. Hill is not a true pg but defends pg.  So lance could handle the ball alot

Despite the fact that you're solely responsible for my dislike of J. Mickey, triboy, I agree with this. He may be a knucklehead, but you can't take away the fact that he was arguably the 2nd best player in that series AND didn't back down from LBJ at any point. Bird was sharp enough to get the best out of him at that particular time.

When effectively reigned in, you can't deny the significant roles that guys like JR Smith and Draymond played in title runs, that Nate Rob did for the Bulls in a playoff series, Delonte and Sheed provided us at one point, etc. And for as much as we all clamor for Boogie, there's no doubt he would come with a degree of similar challenges. A reigned in knucklehead can do wonders for a team's intensity and confidence.

how did Triboy do this? 

The better question is how did you manage to miss triboy's presidential write-in campaign for Jordan Mickey (sarcasm), lol ?

[greece66]

If you had asked me earlier, I expected a team would have presented him with a short and cheap deal. 10-12 mill for 2 years. Now, I rly don't know.

[tarheelsxxiii]

He needs the ball in his hands to be effective and play with fire

Pacers situation was near ideal for him. Hill is not a true pg but defends pg.  So lance could handle the ball alot

Despite the fact that you're solely responsible for my dislike of J. Mickey, triboy, I agree with this. He may be a knucklehead, but you can't take away the fact that he was arguably the 2nd best player in that series AND didn't back down from LBJ at any point. Bird was sharp enough to get the best out of him at that particular time.

When effectively reigned in, you can't deny the significant roles that guys like JR Smith and Draymond played in title runs, that Nate Rob did for the Bulls in a playoff series, Delonte and Sheed provided us at one point, etc. And for as much as we all clamor for Boogie, there's no doubt he would come with a degree of similar challenges. A reigned in knucklehead can do wonders for a team's intensity and confidence.

how did Triboy do this? 

Messing around in reference to his prior Mickey propaganda.  I appreciate his contributions to college talk.

[tarheelsxxiii]

He needs the ball in his hands to be effective and play with fire

Pacers situation was near ideal for him. Hill is not a true pg but defends pg.  So lance could handle the ball alot

Despite the fact that you're solely responsible for my dislike of J. Mickey, triboy, I agree with this. He may be a knucklehead, but you can't take away the fact that he was arguably the 2nd best player in that series AND didn't back down from LBJ at any point. Bird was sharp enough to get the best out of him at that particular time.

When effectively reigned in, you can't deny the significant roles that guys like JR Smith and Draymond played in title runs, that Nate Rob did for the Bulls in a playoff series, Delonte and Sheed provided us at one point, etc. And for as much as we all clamor for Boogie, there's no doubt he would come with a degree of similar challenges. A reigned in knucklehead can do wonders for a team's intensity and confidence.

how did Triboy do this? 

The better question is how did you manage to miss triboy's presidential write-in campaign for Jordan Mickey (sarcasm), lol ?

Lol. See? Starting to have hope for Rozier, though.