Something has to happen right?

[TheSundanceKid]

The signs seem to point to it. Not the rumours or the fantasies but the moves that are actually being made. We have 18 contracts on the books at the moment, 17 with some kind of guarantee. Realistically only cutting 1 fully guaranteed contract. However it doesn't seem Danny like to have no roster flexibility throughout the year.
On top of that we have the talk of interest in guys like Ray Allen and at ome point JR Smith. If Danny didn't have something up his sleeve then would Ray even consider us?

It doesn't need to be a superstar trade, it just needs to be a 2 for 1 or maybe even a 3 for 1. This is why I think the Philly rumours have some truth to them, they are one of few teams who would take some of our depth in exchange for a consolidated piece like Noel or Okafor.

I suppose then the question becomes what is the hesitation? Is DA still waiting to see if a big trade develops? I don't see one out there, not this late in the summer. Cousins won't be available til the trade deadline at the earliest. Griffin appears to be staying. Unless Ainge has a trick up his sleeve we have what we have.

Basically it doesn't make sense for him to still be in free agent rumours unless there really is something on in the background. I'm just itching to find out what it is

[kozlodoev]

Yes, we'll waive 3 people. It has happened before.

[PhoSita]

Cut, waive, or trade dump three guys. Probably Young, Bentil, Holland. Not that hard.

[walker834]

We were in a similar position last year.  We had 17 players under contract going into camp.  I think the players we have now are a little better than Perry Jones though although Young is debateable.  I think roles are in question too this year.  Last year we had David Lee who a lot of people thought would be our starter and best player.  It ended up Amir and Sully starting and we struggled with our big men last year.  This year with Horford it's more set in stone that he is the starter.

Last year roles between  Crowder and Turner were in question.  I think this year it's more the young guys and how they are going to contribute.

With Turner gone and Sully, it's pretty clear Horford is going to eat up minutes.  I don't know what is going to happen with everyone else. I expect Rozier and Smart to take on more responsibility and KO.  Where Brown fits and  guys like Hunter and Green and Jerebko I don't know right now.  I think Brown should definately play.

[walker834]

Cut, waive, or trade dump three guys. Probably Young, Bentil, Holland. Not that hard.

I agree with this.  I'm not as high on Bentil as some and if we lose him to another team not that big a deal.  I'd like to keep Nader and hope there is an unwritten agreement there.

I think Bentil is a bit more valuable than that though where if he clears I wouldn't hesitate to put him in the d-league. 

I don't see him as a huge loss though if someone else signs him.

[Surferdad]

Cut, waive, or trade dump three guys. Probably Young, Bentil, Holland. Not that hard.

I agree with this.  I'm not as high on Bentil as some and if we lose him to another team not that big a deal.  I'd like to keep Nader and hope there is an unwritten agreement there.

I think Bentil is a bit more valuable than that though where if he clears I wouldn't hesitate to put him in the d-league. 

I don't see him as a huge loss though if someone else signs him.

Cut seems more likely than trade at this point. Most teams are dealing with too many guys at the moment because it's still a couple months before the roster limit takes effect. So it's hard to do a 2-for-1 or 3-for-1 right now unless it's a salary dump, and I just don't think Ainge wants to take on more salary even if its expiring. 

So no, something does not have to happen.

[dannyboy35]

I really think Cousins is the dream scenario for Ainge now . I think they'll cut if they have to as well. I bet he wants to hold on to assets until the deadline.

[slamtheking]

"something" is a pretty broad net to be casting.  yes, "something" has to happen even if it's just clearing the bottom 3 guys from the roster.

I think the safest assumption is that Holland will be let go.
Next, barring a major improvement in camp, if they last until then, I would strongly anticipate both Young and Hunter being moved with enough cash to cover their contracts for a highly protected second rounder from the team that gets them. 

unlikely but possible, Young and Hunter are roster-clearing throw-ins to balance out salary for a trade to Philly for Okafor.  This would naturally need a good first rounder (not the '17 Nets pick) and a decent player in the rotation.

[tankcity!]

We're building through the draft, people need to accept that by now.

[TheSundanceKid]

I understand that we can simply cut the guys. My point is Danny's actions towards that aren't logical. Are we saying Jackson and Bentil are upgrades to Hunter and Young? Are we saying that there hasn't been the option to unload one of them at all during the summer? That their value around the league is below zero?
Going out and adding G. Green is a minor move sure but I think we all agree he'll play a small role throughout the year, so why add him instead of giving Hunter those minutes? We already had a roster crunch.

Last year we cut Jones but his salary was already paid for, as was Dragic. So there was no disadvantage to taking a flyer on them. This year would be outright cutting them which is very unlike Danny.

I dunno, things just don't seem as clear as last year, it feels like the summer is unfinished

[Surferdad]

I understand that we can simply cut the guys. My point is Danny's actions towards that aren't logical. Are we saying Jackson and Bentil are upgrades to Hunter and Young? Are we saying that there hasn't been the option to unload one of them at all during the summer? That their value around the league is below zero?
Going out and adding G. Green is a minor move sure but I think we all agree he'll play a small role throughout the year, so why add him instead of giving Hunter those minutes? We already had a roster crunch.

Last year we cut Jones but his salary was already paid for, as was Dragic. So there was no disadvantage to taking a flyer on them. This year would be outright cutting them which is very unlike Danny.

I dunno, things just don't seem as clear as last year, it feels like the summer is unfinished

To respond to two of your questions:
I believe Ainge held onto Hunter/Young as options to include in a trade which never happened, NOT that their value is sub-zero.  A trade could still happen so no point in cutting them just yet.

I also believe Green is simply better than Hunter at this point and at least for a while.  RJ is a heady player for a kid and can shoot long bombs, but he lacks in most other areas such as athleticism, defense, ability to drive to the hoops, ball handling, passing.

[guava_wrench]

We're building through the draft, people need to accept that by now.

This comments makes little sense when Ainge hasn't accepted that. He is constantly trying to make deals to trade picks for stars.

You don't need fifty second round picks to build through the draft. You don't need 3 first rounders. The fact that Danny was so willing to draft Euros for stashing over BPA shows that roster management is becoming an issue.

[Celtics18]

By my count--including Nader and Holland, but not the Euros--the roster currently stands at nineteen.  That's a lot. 

I could easily see cutting both of the above mentioned guys, but two more would still have to go.  I guess James Young and Ben Bentil (or maybe Demetrius Jackson) would be the next two?

Yeah, there's still a lot to be sorted out by opening night.

[tankcity!]

We're building through the draft, people need to accept that by now.

This comments makes little sense when Ainge hasn't accepted that. He is constantly trying to make deals to trade picks for stars.

You don't need fifty second round picks to build through the draft. You don't need 3 first rounders. The fact that Danny was so willing to draft Euros for stashing over BPA shows that roster management is becoming an issue.

It doesn't matter what he wants. So does every other GM in the league, haha. What's your point? Can you name a superstar that Ainge can actually trade for? It's just not realistic. Are you going to continue to be misled by Ainge and the owner? I'm sorry but we are not getting a franchise player in the next two years. So that means we have to use the Brooklyn picks, which means build through the draft.

Hopefully you understand what I mean now.

[Beat LA]

Cut, waive, or trade dump three guys. Probably Young, Bentil, Holland. Not that hard.

Please keep Bentil soup .