Marcus Smart can't develop properly with IT

[feckless]

What makes people think Marcus isn't a worker though?  I have heard everything to the contrary that he is one of our hardest workers.

Where --other than here and from Marcus--find me a quote from Brad or Danny?  And as far as I can see no one says he doesn't work they say he needs more work!  Very different.

Everything I've read and seen from Smart says that he is a hard worker.  I just have a hard time believing between him and Brad that Marcus is not going to do great things this year.  Just google Stevens, Smart and hard work.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/osusportsextra/brad-stevens-praises-marcus-smart-i-see-the-daily-work/article_8d88336d-16be-5d6b-81c2-d91b79b7b62e.html

Your quote was from before last year and it was Brad complimenting his work on defense, for his school newspaper.  Not really what we are talking about, is it?

[Evantime34]

What makes people think Marcus isn't a worker though?  I have heard everything to the contrary that he is one of our hardest workers.

Where --other than here and from Marcus--find me a quote from Brad or Danny?  And as far as I can see no one says he doesn't work they say he needs more work!  Very different.

Here is a post from a couple of months ago when I answered a similar question to the one you posed

Here is a quote from Stevens himself

"I see the daily work that he puts in, so he’s getting better,” Stevens said Tuesday night before the Celtics’ open practice for season ticket holders at TD Garden.

Here is a quote from Danny Ainge

“You’ve got to put in the time and the work, and Marcus is putting in the work,” Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge said.

Here is a quote from James Harden

“Good hands. Good feet. Starting to shoot the ball a lot better. He’s getting a lot better. I’m sure he works extremely hard. I saw him this past summer with USA Basketball and he looked really good.”

Quote from the beat writer of his college team

Smart’s never going to be a guy who gets his paycheck and becomes satisfied. He works on his game like crazy, so maybe his shot will get better, but his whole game will get better, too, because of the way he works. Number one, he wants to win and that will always be, I think, at the top of the list for him.”

[jpotter33]

Thank goodness someone created this forum topic. I mean, we haven't had a space to rant about Marcus Smart in almost four days!

Yeah, though I don't necessarily agree with the premise of this thread, these types of Smart threads become Smart-bashing echo chambers rather quickly, which I don't understand since he's legitimately contributed more to a winning playoff team than any other player that's came out in the last two years. That's why I generally try to stay out of them.

[jpotter33]

What makes people think Marcus isn't a worker though?  I have heard everything to the contrary that he is one of our hardest workers.

Where --other than here and from Marcus--find me a quote from Brad or Danny?  And as far as I can see no one says he doesn't work they say he needs more work!  Very different.

Here is a post from a couple of months ago when I answered a similar question to the one you posed

Here is a quote from Stevens himself

"I see the daily work that he puts in, so he’s getting better,” Stevens said Tuesday night before the Celtics’ open practice for season ticket holders at TD Garden.

Here is a quote from Danny Ainge

“You’ve got to put in the time and the work, and Marcus is putting in the work,” Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge said.

Here is a quote from James Harden

“Good hands. Good feet. Starting to shoot the ball a lot better. He’s getting a lot better. I’m sure he works extremely hard. I saw him this past summer with USA Basketball and he looked really good.”

Quote from the beat writer of his college team

Smart’s never going to be a guy who gets his paycheck and becomes satisfied. He works on his game like crazy, so maybe his shot will get better, but his whole game will get better, too, because of the way he works. Number one, he wants to win and that will always be, I think, at the top of the list for him.”

Yeah, I would say that questioning Smart's fairly obvious elite work ethic is the threshold for being a genuine Smart-hater.

[walker834]

What makes people think Marcus isn't a worker though?  I have heard everything to the contrary that he is one of our hardest workers.

Where --other than here and from Marcus--find me a quote from Brad or Danny?  And as far as I can see no one says he doesn't work they say he needs more work!  Very different.

Everything I've read and seen from Smart says that he is a hard worker.  I just have a hard time believing between him and Brad that Marcus is not going to do great things this year.  Just google Stevens, Smart and hard work.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/osusportsextra/brad-stevens-praises-marcus-smart-i-see-the-daily-work/article_8d88336d-16be-5d6b-81c2-d91b79b7b62e.html

Your quote was from before last year and it was Brad complimenting his work on defense, for his school newspaper.  Not really what we are talking about, is it?

you asked for an example and I gave you an example.  Just google Marcus and hard work or work ethic and there are plenty of examples. Also when Ainge drafted him  he praised his leadership and work ethic.  I have seen nothing to the contrary. His shot isn't falling. It doesn't mean he isn't putting in work to improve those areas. That does take time.

[walker834]

"Marcus has had his ups and downs," said Stevens, who also praised Smart's earlier defensive work against Kyle Korver. "But Marcus on this stage -- and with his consistent work ethic and competitive spirit -- you really trust that good things will happen."

There's a recent quote from stevens too

http://www.nba.com/2016/news/features/ian_thomsen/04/24/marcus-smart-latest-young-celtics-to-grow-up-down-stretch/

[inverselock]

IT's fault right?

[feckless]

What makes people think Marcus isn't a worker though?  I have heard everything to the contrary that he is one of our hardest workers.

Where --other than here and from Marcus--find me a quote from Brad or Danny?  And as far as I can see no one says he doesn't work they say he needs more work!  Very different.

Here is a post from a couple of months ago when I answered a similar question to the one you posed

Here is a quote from Stevens himself

"I see the daily work that he puts in, so he’s getting better,” Stevens said Tuesday night before the Celtics’ open practice for season ticket holders at TD Garden.

Here is a quote from Danny Ainge

“You’ve got to put in the time and the work, and Marcus is putting in the work,” Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge said.

Here is a quote from James Harden

“Good hands. Good feet. Starting to shoot the ball a lot better. He’s getting a lot better. I’m sure he works extremely hard. I saw him this past summer with USA Basketball and he looked really good.”

Quote from the beat writer of his college team

Smart’s never going to be a guy who gets his paycheck and becomes satisfied. He works on his game like crazy, so maybe his shot will get better, but his whole game will get better, too, because of the way he works. Number one, he wants to win and that will always be, I think, at the top of the list for him.”

Yeah, I would say that questioning Smart's fairly obvious elite work ethic is the threshold for being a genuine Smart-hater.

Fairly obvious elite work ethic??

Brad's quote was from pres-season a year ago, Danny's who knows when and Harden and a college  sportswriter I could find the same about almost anyone?

Walker834 's quotes were better and show a good level of work for an NBA young player--"obvious elite" is a figment of your imagination --just not in those quotes.

I am not bashing Marcus's work, I don't really know ---I am saying he needs work and I don't see Brad or Danny regularly praising him. 

Too much hyperbole when it comes to Marcus--let the kid earn what he earns.

[kozlodoev]

Thank goodness someone created this forum topic. I mean, we haven't had a space to rant about Marcus Smart in almost four days!

Yeah, though I don't necessarily agree with the premise of this thread, these types of Smart threads become Smart-bashing echo chambers rather quickly, which I don't understand since he's legitimately contributed more to a winning playoff team than any other player that's came out in the last two years. That's why I generally try to stay out of them.

Saying that Smart is a limited player who may or may not get better, regardless of how hard he works is now somehow a "bashing echo chamber"?!

Some folks seem to subscribe to the sentiment that because he's such a hard worker, he's bound to develop a three-point shot, magically acquire a first step, and stop making boneheaded decisions. That's far from a given.

An extension of this is the sentiment that other players on the roster have somehow "stunted" Smart's ability to improve on any or all of this, which would be pretty hilarious if it weren't extremely aggravating already.

[walker834]

Yes it is.  Smart is not as limited as the doubters think.  He does a lot right where his offense is going to be just fine if he works at it.  He's not limited.  There is so much he can and will do on a basketball court that a lot of players don't.

That's really the whole point with him is he's not limited.  He plays on both sides of the ball.  His shot just hasn't been falling.

[RJ87]

Thank goodness someone created this forum topic. I mean, we haven't had a space to rant about Marcus Smart in almost four days!

Yeah, though I don't necessarily agree with the premise of this thread, these types of Smart threads become Smart-bashing echo chambers rather quickly, which I don't understand since he's legitimately contributed more to a winning playoff team than any other player that's came out in the last two years. That's why I generally try to stay out of them.

Saying that Smart is a limited player who may or may not get better, regardless of how hard he works is now somehow a "bashing echo chamber"?!

Apparently so unless you think he's bound to be an All-Star lol. As I said a few posts ago, no one's being outright negative (aside from a poster or two), but I think it's fair discuss his lack of progress and the holes in offensive game.

[walker834]

http://boston.cbslocal.com/video/program/890/3422882-marcus-smart-on-basketball-camp-celtics-offseason/

Work. Work. Work.

[BitterJim]

What makes people think Marcus isn't a worker though?  I have heard everything to the contrary that he is one of our hardest workers.

Where --other than here and from Marcus--find me a quote from Brad or Danny?  And as far as I can see no one says he doesn't work they say he needs more work!  Very different.

Here is a post from a couple of months ago when I answered a similar question to the one you posed

Here is a quote from Stevens himself

"I see the daily work that he puts in, so he’s getting better,” Stevens said Tuesday night before the Celtics’ open practice for season ticket holders at TD Garden.

Here is a quote from Danny Ainge

“You’ve got to put in the time and the work, and Marcus is putting in the work,” Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge said.

Here is a quote from James Harden

“Good hands. Good feet. Starting to shoot the ball a lot better. He’s getting a lot better. I’m sure he works extremely hard. I saw him this past summer with USA Basketball and he looked really good.”

Quote from the beat writer of his college team

Smart’s never going to be a guy who gets his paycheck and becomes satisfied. He works on his game like crazy, so maybe his shot will get better, but his whole game will get better, too, because of the way he works. Number one, he wants to win and that will always be, I think, at the top of the list for him.”

Yeah, I would say that questioning Smart's fairly obvious elite work ethic is the threshold for being a genuine Smart-hater.

Fairly obvious elite work ethic??

Brad's quote was from pres-season a year ago, Danny's who knows when and Harden and a college  sportswriter I could find the same about almost anyone?

Walker834 's quotes were better and show a good level of work for an NBA young player--"obvious elite" is a figment of your imagination --just not in those quotes.

I am not bashing Marcus's work, I don't really know ---I am saying he needs work and I don't see Brad or Danny regularly praising him. 

Too much hyperbole when it comes to Marcus--let the kid earn what he earns.

So, despite numerous sources (including the coach) saying that he has a good work ethic, you're just going to go on assuming that Smart has a poor one because you "don't really know" and he isn't constantly praised for it?  Would you say the same of Avery Bradley, or Lebron, both of which have extremely good work ethics but aren't constantly being praised for it?

You're turning a blind eye to the evidence being presented without presenting any of your own.  Do you honestly not understand why that would be view as you bashing him? 

[RJ87]

Yes it is.  Smart is not as limited as the doubters think.  He does a lot right where his offense is going to be just fine if he works at it.  He's not limited.  There is so much he can and will do on a basketball court that a lot of players don't.

That's really the whole point with him is he's not limited.  He plays on both sides of the ball.  His shot just hasn't been falling.

Just about every advanced stat disagrees with this. He's a good defender, but he's a poor offensive player. In college he was bigger and stronger than every other guard so he could bully his way to the rim and get to the line, which helped his efficiency. He has not shown that ability in 2 years in the NBA. Maybe he finds his niche, it's totally possible. But it's also possible that he doesn't and he tops as a high level role player.

[Evantime34]

What makes people think Marcus isn't a worker though?  I have heard everything to the contrary that he is one of our hardest workers.

Where --ot