Tradeable Asset Hierarchy (Player A > Pick A > Pick B > Player B > Pick C > etc)

[Dino Pitino]

Saw somebody do a truncated version of this on another board, thought it was an interesting exercise. Just rank the Celtics' assets in order of trade value. However you define that, whether it's market value according to the rest of the league or team importance according to us.

Here's mine.

Horford excluded because he's not tradeable. Our own picks excluded because, depending on which other picks are traded, our own picks' tradeability is limited per Stepian. 2nds excluded, too. I don't know where to rank Amir, his value is some kind of blend of the value of a big TPE and the value of an underpaid starting big in his prime, which means...?

BRK '17 > Brown > BRK '18 > Smart > Thomas > Crowder > Bradley > MEM 1st > Olynyk > Rozier > Mickey > Yabusele > LAC 1st* > Johnson > Jerebko > Zizic > Jackson > Bentil > Hunter > Nader > Young

* Unless traded back to LAC, in which case move up 4 or 5 spots

Am I missing anything, besides what I already excluded?

p.s. I am aware that I'll be in the minority re: Smart's value. Let's not turn this into a Smart thread, though, eh? Post your own asset hierarchy.

EDIT: In list form if that's easier to read...

BRK '17
Brown
BRK '18
Smart
Thomas
Crowder
Bradley
MEM 1st
Olynyk
Rozier
Mickey
Yabusele
LAC 1st*
Johnson
Jerebko
Zizic
Jackson
Bentil
Hunter
Nader
Young

[wiley]

Saw somebody do a truncated version of this on another board, thought it was an interesting exercise. Just rank the Celtics' assets in order of trade value. However you define that, whether it's market value according to the rest of the league or team importance according to us.

Here's mine.

Horford excluded because he's not tradeable. Our own picks excluded because, depending on which other picks are traded, our own picks' tradeability is limited per Stepian. 2nds excluded, too. I don't know where to rank Amir, his value is some kind of blend of the value of a big TPE and the value of an underpaid starting big in his prime, which means...?

BRK '17 > Brown > BRK '18 > Smart > Thomas > Crowder > Bradley > MEM 1st > Olynyk > Rozier > Mickey > Yabusele > LAC 1st* > Johnson > Jerebko > Zizic > Jackson > Bentil > Hunter > Nader > Young

* Unless traded back to LAC, in which case move up 4 or 5 spots

Am I missing anything, besides what I already excluded?

p.s. I am aware that I'll be in the minority re: Smart's value. Let's not turn this into a Smart thread, though, eh? Post your own asset hierarchy.

EDIT: In list form if that's easier to read...

BRK '17
Brown
BRK '18
Smart
Thomas
Crowder
Bradley
MEM 1st
Olynyk
Rozier
Mickey
Yabusele
LAC 1st*
Johnson
Jerebko
Zizic
Jackson
Bentil
Hunter
Nader
Young

BRK '17
Brown
Smart (age and potential...so over IT)
IT
BRK '18 (can/will surpass IT and perhaps Smart next summer)
Crowder
Rozier
Bradley

That's how I would list but I'm guessing.

[Ilikesports17]

Why is the clippers pick so much more important to LA. Isn't it protected?

[oldtype]

Why is the clippers pick so much more important to LA. Isn't it protected?

It gives them the option of trading their picks the year before or after in the future

[Dino Pitino]

Why is the clippers pick so much more important to LA. Isn't it protected?

Stepian rule. Frees them up to trade it and adjacent years' picks. Unhamstrings them.

[max215]

I'd move Smart down and Crowder up, but overall, a solid list.

[Big333223]

I'd move Smart down and Crowder up, but overall, a solid list.

This. Crowder is undeniably more valuable to other NBA teams right now.

[i believe in brad]

Well market value according to the rest of the league is a little difficult.  A team trying to win now would have an entirely different ranking of our assets than a team that is rebuilding.

[Dino Pitino]

I said our own picks are excluded but, of course, the '17 Nets pick technically counts as one of our own. If anyone cares about the inconsistency, just un-exclude our own picks and throw in our own '19 and '21 or '20 and '22 picks somewhere on the bottom of the list, I guess.

[loco_91]

BRK '17 > Brown > BRK '18 > Smart > Thomas > Crowder > Bradley > MEM 1st > Olynyk > Rozier > Mickey > Yabusele > LAC 1st* > Johnson > Jerebko > Zizic > Jackson > Bentil > Hunter > Nader > Young

I agree with this list almost completely. I bumped up Crowder and Yab. I boldly put Brown over Bkn '17 because of his strong SL performance and multiple sources of uncertainty around the Nets pick. I also divided into three tiers--core assets, expendable assets, borderline assets.

Brown, Bkn '17, Crowder, Bkn '18, Smart, Thomas, [gap] Bradley, Yabusele, Memphis '19, Rozier, Olynyk, [gap] LAC 1st, Johnson, Zizic, Bos '18, Hunter, Nader, Jerebko, Bentil, Jackson, Young.

[Dino Pitino]

I wonder how many teams have a worse stockpile of assets than our bottom half?

After slotting in Brook Lopez (the Bradley-MEM range?) and what the poor Nets fans must consider the "Boston '17 1st" (which will be worse than Rozier-Yabusele)...at what point on my list would you slot in Brooklyn's third best asset?

[oldtype]

I wonder how many teams have a worse stockpile of assets than our bottom half?

After slotting in Brook Lopez (the Bradley-MEM range?) and what the poor Nets fans must consider the "Boston '17 1st" (which will be worse than Rozier-Yabusele)...at what point on my list would you slot in Brooklyn's third best asset?

I think their 2020 1st may be more valuable than the "Boston 2017" 1st.

[MBunge]

I wonder how many teams have a worse stockpile of assets than our bottom half?

Most teams, even the best ones, basically tap out on assets after their 6th or 7th guy and lack extra picks.  We trail other teams at the top, not the bottom of the asset list.

Mike

[loco_91]

I wonder how many teams have a worse stockpile of assets than our bottom half?

After slotting in Brook Lopez (the Bradley-MEM range?) and what the poor Nets fans must consider the "Boston '17 1st" (which will be worse than Rozier-Yabusele)...at what point on my list would you slot in Brooklyn's third best asset?

I'd slot in RHJ between Smart/Thomas and Bradley. But otherwise, yeah.

[Dino Pitino]

BRK '17 > Brown > BRK '18 > Smart > Thomas > Crowder > Bradley > MEM 1st > Olynyk > Rozier > Mickey > Yabusele > LAC 1st* > Johnson > Jerebko > Zizic > Jackson > Bentil > Hunter > Nader > Young

I agree with this list almost completely. I bumped up Crowder and Yab. I boldly put Brown over Bkn '17 because of his strong SL performance and multiple sources of uncertainty around the Nets pick. I also divided into three tiers--core assets, expendable assets, borderline assets.

Brown, Bkn '17, Crowder, Bkn '18, Smart, Thomas, [gap] Bradley, Yabusele, Memphis '19, Rozier, Olynyk, [gap] LAC 1st, Johnson, Zizic, Bos '18, Hunter, Nader, Jerebko, Bentil, Jackson, Young.

Upon further review, considering like you said the multiple ways that the '17 Nets pick could wind up worse, whereas it's becoming apparent that Brown has the top-of-the-lottery goods, that this 2016 should probably be redefined as having an elite Top 3 not just Top 2...yep, Brown should be #1. Bold, but true!