Another way to part with James Young

[otherdave]

Rather than trade him and a second rounder (the cost for getting a team to take him) to a team with cap space, how about the following:

C's must pick up their team option on James for the 2017 - 2018 season by this Oct 31.  What if they don't pick up this option and he becomes an UFA on July 1, 2017.  We save our 2nd round draft pick in the process (granted some of the 2nd rd picks that we have acquired will be selected very late in the second round).

What is the risk in the above scenario, other than injuries this coming season giving Young a chance to play and he actually figures it out? 

 

[Endless Paradise]

The risk is that you lose out on the right to match any offers he might receive in free agency. Of course, he sucks, so that's not much of a risk, if one at all.

[hwangjini_1]

Not unreasonable at all. Young has improved each year. So far, though he has a long way. To go to be a credible nba player.  It is not silly or unwise see whether he will develop even more this year.

Unless he gets. Moved. In. Some sort. Of trade, I expect to see him get some playing time. If he still is. Not good enough, then let him walk.

[otherdave]

The risk is that you lose out on the right to match any offers he might receive in free agency. Of course, he sucks, so that's not much of a risk, if one at all.

If you want the right to match offers, you have to keep Mr Young for the next 2 seasons.

[hodgy03038]

Young has improved each year.

He has? How and where has he improved? Just cut our losses. A bust.

[hardlyyardley]

How does the second round pick enter the equation?

[spikelovetheCelts]

Young has improved each year.

He has? How and where has he improved? Just cut our losses. A bust.

The D league Coaches have said he is looking better and Rozier said he doing well too. Danny said he needs to step up to make the team. Time will tell

[otherdave]

How does the second round pick enter the equation?

If C's are just cutting/waiving James this fall and eating his salary for upcoming season, then 2nd rd pick does not enter the equation.

If C's are trading JY, then C's may need to throw in a second rd pick to complete the trade.

[BitterJim]

Young has improved each year.

He has? How and where has he improved? Just cut our losses. A bust.

He's definitely improved since his rookie season (you don't need to go from bad to good to improve, you can instead go from really bad to just regular bad).  Now instead of being an active detriment to our defense all the time he's only an active detriment some of the time.  Who knows, in a couple of years he could turn out to be merely below-average on that end of the floor

[Evantime34]

Rather than trade him and a second rounder (the cost for getting a team to take him) to a team with cap space, how about the following:

C's must pick up their team option on James for the 2017 - 2018 season by this Oct 31.  What if they don't pick up this option and he becomes an UFA on July 1, 2017.  We save our 2nd round draft pick in the process (granted some of the 2nd rd picks that we have acquired will be selected very late in the second round).

What is the risk in the above scenario, other than injuries this coming season giving Young a chance to play and he actually figures it out?

I don't think they would have to give up an asset to deal him. If you are right about that, then I think the Celtics would just cut him.

[hwangjini_1]

Young has improved each year.

He has? How and where has he improved? Just cut our losses. A bust.

he actually tries to play defense and at times does so credibly well playing man on man. he still misses switches and makes mistakes, but the effort is there. it didnt used to be.

he attacks the basket in summer league, he did not before. that shows he is more aggressive.

both of these are improvements. whether he will keep improving is the unknown isnt it?

never did i say he was good, only that he was improving and he is still one of the youngest players on the team. it is still too early to know what he will become in the nba since he is still developing.

now to your point. cutting him saves the celtics resources how exactly? are you saying the celtics save salary by cutting him? if not, then what do you mean? please explain how your plan does what it says it will because i dont see it.

final point, i find it hard to label a #16 pick a bust. only about half of the players in that range make it in the nba. so it is a real roll of the dice for those players.

[Endless Paradise]

Rather than trade him and a second rounder (the cost for getting a team to take him) to a team with cap space, how about the following:

C's must pick up their team option on James for the 2017 - 2018 season by this Oct 31.  What if they don't pick up this option and he becomes an UFA on July 1, 2017.  We save our 2nd round draft pick in the process (granted some of the 2nd rd picks that we have acquired will be selected very late in the second round).

What is the risk in the above scenario, other than injuries this coming season giving Young a chance to play and he actually figures it out?

I don't think they would have to give up an asset to deal him. If you are right about that, then I think the Celtics would just cut him.

The Celtics received an asset just a year ago in a similar salary dump (the Perry Jones trade came with a second rounder and cash), so the Celtics would assuredly have to include at least the exact same compensation to get a team to take on Young.

[Pvictor11]

I think we should keep him a little more. He is just 20 years old. Dunn, for example, was just drafted with 22. Young is just a kid yet. I think he will figure it out and will be a good player. He is athletic and has a very good 3 pt shot, he just needs to undestand I little more about the way the game is played and what he has to do in the court. Some guys learn quick, others take a little longer. But I have faith in him. I think he can crack the rotation this year and give us about 8 minutes.

I expect him to come of the bench in the first games of the season, hit a couple of 3 pointers, grab 1 rebound, dish 1 assist and stay close to his matchup on defense. If he does that, I would consider myself happy with him. That will give him the confidence to try a little more. By the middle of the season he jumps to 12 minutes, start penetrating, maybe a dunk or 2, some layups, 1 or 2 rebounds more. And so on to the end of the season. I think he needs baby steps, get some confidence and doing the little thing with consistency.

I think this will be Young's year, I'm optimistic. I refuse to give up on a 20 year old kid who has athleticism and know how to shoot when those are 2 things that we need A LOT.

[Jiri Welsch]

Young is the type of guy you'll be happy to have hung on to in three years, when you have signed him to an extremely affordable contract and he finally becomes a serviceable rotation player.

[Evantime34]

Rather than trade him and a second rounder (the cost for getting a team to take him) to a team with cap space, how about the following:

C's must pick up their team option on James for the 2017 - 2018 season by this Oct 31.  What if they don't pick up this option and he becomes an UFA on July 1, 2017.  We save our 2nd round draft pick in the process (granted some of the 2nd rd picks that we have acquired will be selected very late in the second round).

What is the risk in the above scenario, other than injuries this coming season giving Young a chance to play and he actually figures it out?

I don't think they would have to give up an asset to deal him. If you are right about that, then I think the Celtics would just cut him.

The Celtics received an asset just a year ago in a similar salary dump (the Perry Jones trade came with a second rounder and cash), so the Celtics would assuredly have to include at least the exact same compensation to get a team to take on Young.

Not if they just cut young and eat his salary (which is not much)