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What is Jaylen Browns ceiling?
« on: July 07, 2016, 02:25:44 AM »

Offline j804

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This kid has got me super excited, it is just SL but he already looks like he's got WAY more potential than Danny's binky Justice Winslow who we were gonna give up the farm for. How good can he be?
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I will say this, he is, by far, the player on our team with the highest ceiling, and I think best case he is a Tracy McGrady (his role model for his game) btw.

He's truly got that "it" to me.

I love him already, wouldn't trade him for much right now.

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I will say this, he is, by far, the player on our team with the highest ceiling, and I think best case he is a Tracy McGrady (his role model for his game) btw.

He's truly got that "it" to me.

I love him already, wouldn't trade him for much right now.

McGrady was a great passer, though.

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Ceiling? How about Vince Carter?

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No one really has a "ceiling," but a top-end comparison for Brown would be a wing version of Russell Westbrook.
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Best Case scenario he becomes the next Jimmy Butler. You guys may hate, but a SG/SF that can average 25 PPG, 6-8 RPG, and 2-4 APG while being a two way threat is the greatest commodity you can have. I think this is most of the reason we couldn't get him at the deadline too because his ability as a shooter and playmaker as a 2-Way player are just so valuable.

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Best Case scenario he becomes the next Jimmy Butler. You guys may hate, but a SG/SF that can average 25 PPG, 6-8 RPG, and 2-4 APG while being a two way threat is the greatest commodity you can have. I think this is most of the reason we couldn't get him at the deadline too because his ability as a shooter and playmaker as a 2-Way player are just so valuable.

Great comparison. And I think Brown has what it takes to get there. But he has LOTS to improve upon when it comes to his shooting. At a minimum, Brown should be as good of a weapon and as good of a defender as Jae Crowder. That would be my threshold.

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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2016, 04:05:17 AM »

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This kid has got me super excited, it is just SL but he already looks like he's got WAY more potential than Danny's binky Justice Winslow who we were gonna give up the farm for. How good can he be?

Tommy Point has been giveth! Haha  ;D I am also super excited about him! In terms of crazy athleticism/body and everything he is like Russell Westbrook in a SF body. I also love that he takes it to the hole, as we haven't had someone do that since Pierce (before he decided to be a non-stop 3 point shooter), which I think will lead to him being a 20 PPG+ scorer in a couple years. I just worry about injuries, and we better not trade him!


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Best Case scenario he becomes the next Jimmy Butler. You guys may hate, but a SG/SF that can average 25 PPG, 6-8 RPG, and 2-4 APG while being a two way threat is the greatest commodity you can have. I think this is most of the reason we couldn't get him at the deadline too because his ability as a shooter and playmaker as a 2-Way player are just so valuable.

I think Brown is a significant better athlete the Butler though, but other then that I think the comparison is pretty on point.

I always think of Butler and Dominique when I look at Brown.  Even a little bit of Lebron (minus the PG skills).

His combination of strength and explosiveness is pretty rare.  Seeing how he gets to the basket, and the physicality he plays with, the strength and body control - looks a bit Lebron like to me.  Not Lebron like in any other way, but definitely in terms of his ability to get to the paint.

Demar Derozan is another who comes to mind - albiet Brown is I think a lot more physical and a lot stronger. 

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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2016, 04:32:02 AM »

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Actually I think he has the ability to be a top 5 SF in the nba.   I don't think he is Dominique Wilkins. He's got really good potential though. Wiggins is closer to Dominique and I don't even think Wiggins is that.

His ceiling is as an underrated top SF though. He can be one of the best. Kawii Leonard is that.

I don't even think he is on Pierce's level coming in though.  I really like him however.  Better athlete than pierce and plays with aggression taking it to the rim.  Or more protypical athlete.  It depends on what you define as athlete.  Pierce was an underrated athlete. He was a really good athlete just different from what people define as that.

I think Brown is underrated in his own way.  He isn't the basketball player some of these guys like dwade or kobe coming in were but he's underrated that way.  Experts talked like he has no game.  He can play.
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I actually really liked one thing that Ainge said when referring to Brown.  He said something like:

"When I'm scouting young prospects I don't focus on what they can't do - I focus on what they can do". 

The way I interpreted his words is that so many of these prospects are really just kids, at a 18 or 19 years of age.  They aren't just playing basketball, they are growing up.  They are getting girlfriends, trying to study and pass exams, trying to learn to manage their finances, trying to plan their careers. 

These guys aren't close to fully developed because they have so many other things going at their age that they can't focus all of their mind, their time and their money on one art.  So when you see these guys play, a lot of what you are seeing is their natural, raw, god given talents.

Once they get into the league they become professionals.  They get full time trainers, dieticians, agents who handle their big career decisions, accounts to help take care of their financial interests.  They don't have to ever again worry about not having the money or the resources.  They can devote their entire life, for the most part, on improving their game...and so it's only natural they are going to get better.

This is why I think it's important to recognise the prospects out there who have anything that they are truly "great" at.

I look at Brown and I can tell you, with a straight face, that this kid is a great athlete.

I look at Simmons and I can tell you, with a straight face, that this kid is a great passer, a great ball handler, and has great basketball IQ.

I look at Buddy Hield and I can tell you, with a straight face, that this kid is a great shooter.

I look at Kris Dunn and I can tell you, with a straight face, that this kid id a great athlete, defender and ball handler.

Not good - no, no.  Great.

I can look at any player and I can tell you what they aren't good at.  I can tell you Lebron James can't shoot to save his life.  I can look at Kyrie Irving and tell you that kid isn't quick enough, he's arms are too short, and he's not a good defender.  I can tell you Isaiah Thomas is so [dang] small that it's almost comical watching him try to play defense.

But those guys are all stars, because they are all GREAT at something.

Jaylen Brown is a great athlete.  He has flaws in his game.  He has areas that are undeveloped.  He needs a great deal of work.  We don't have a clue if he'll ever develop into a star - but the fact that he is a great athlete is a strong foundation to build on.  There are guys in the NBA who have all the skills in the world, but are held back by physical attributes that they cannot possible change, because it's just what they were born with. Jaylen Brown will never have that problem.  He has all the natural physical gifts you could ask for.

If he ever develops the skills to go with those physical tools, then the sky is pretty much the limit.

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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2016, 04:50:35 AM »

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I think he is underrated as a player as well. He's got certain moves already that are go to moves for him.  What I love about him is his mindset.  He really takes it to the rim and is a tough player that way. He is silky smooth and can leap out of the gym.

That's the thing though.  There are certain players that do things that just stand out.  Bo jackson wasn't this polished thing coming out. But his talent was apparent.  Marcus Smart is the same thing.  JUst look at him. It's pretty clear what these guys can do.

I don't care what the numbers say overly.

Even Pierce. People say he wasn't a great athlete.  It was pretty apparent Pierce was talented the minute he got here and what he could do.

Sure jaylen has to work on his shot and how he positions himself on defense sometimes but that's what playing basketball is for.

He's not Gerald Green here. He has a lot more toughness than that and will get to the line.  james young might be but he's still very young. Even he is a completely different player than Gerald Green.

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jaylen brown can shoot. He can score.  he can take it to the rim and score as a cutter and on putbacks and finishes as well.  He has can play defense.  He doesn't have many weaknesses when you look at him like that.  He isnt MKG here.  He has to improve in areas sure.

His main asset is as a slasher and his ability to take it to the basket but he can do other things.  He's not limited like some of these other guys. He may never be a buddy hield level shooter but he can shoot.