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Re: Next (Realistic) Target
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2016, 05:32:50 PM »

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i am in favor for a new GM....just sayin'  :-\
seriously?

Re: Next (Realistic) Target
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2016, 05:33:28 PM »

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Why do I get the impression Ainge-Stevens are shirking away from rim protectors and rebounders? They've had numerous opportunities to get one, and so far have ignored them.  The result is they have a bunch of guys up front who can't jump or rebound.

I'm excluding Horford, mind you, who can do some of these things, but I can't help but think his main attraction to them is he shoots 3 pointers!

Get a rim protector, Danny. The Celtics were nothing in the early 50s until they got Bill Russell.
And they have never been anything without a couple of good rebounders up front.

I think they believe the current NBA is all about the three point shot.
They might be right.

Re: Next (Realistic) Target
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2016, 06:34:23 PM »

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Try James Michael McAdoo.

 A 6'9 SF who can defend and has significant amount of learned experience from GSW. Quick, runs the floor well, and can shoot.

Re: Next (Realistic) Target
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2016, 06:45:53 PM »

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Jusuf Nurkic.

Why do I get the impression Ainge-Stevens are shirking away from rim protectors and rebounders? They've had numerous opportunities to get one, and so far have ignored them.  The result is they have a bunch of guys up front who can't jump or rebound.

I'm excluding Horford, mind you, who can do some of these things, but I can't help but think his main attraction to them is he shoots 3 pointers!

Get a rim protector, Danny. The Celtics were nothing in the early 50s until they got Bill Russell.
And they have never been anything without a couple of good rebounders up front.

I think they believe the current NBA is all about the three point shot.
They might be right.

They have repeatedly said they want a big man who can play inside (rim protector, rebounder, etc.), but they don't want to get one that can only do those things, thereby sacrificing the openness and fluidity of their offense and the flexibility of their defense.

Re: Next (Realistic) Target
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2016, 06:46:33 PM »

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Try James Michael McAdoo.

 A 6'9 SF who can defend and has significant amount of learned experience from GSW. Quick, runs the floor well, and can shoot.

I would support this pickup. I think he is a better role player prospect than Bentil.

Re: Next (Realistic) Target
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2016, 12:01:36 AM »

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i am in favor for a new GM....just sayin'  :-\

Well you're in for a LONG wait then....

Re: Next (Realistic) Target
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2016, 12:03:52 AM »

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just came back from vacation,m so LOTS of catching up to do apparently.

But just read that KD's contract is for 2 years, and his 2nd year is player option, doesn't that also mean he is still in play for next year. If say GSW somehow loses again next year, and the Celtics improve to 2nd round and win a game or two, or if we overachieve again and reach conference finals, do you think that is appealing to KD? Not to mention that team looks good on paper, but do you think there will be tension if they don't get things done next year?

If we don't make any panic moves and just throw money at someone just for the sake of throwing it, we still have cap space to sign KD I think?

Re: Next (Realistic) Target
« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2016, 12:31:10 AM »

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Koufos and okafor should be the targets.. let zeller and sully go

Re: Next (Realistic) Target
« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2016, 01:15:01 PM »

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Jusuf Nurkic.

Why do I get the impression Ainge-Stevens are shirking away from rim protectors and rebounders? They've had numerous opportunities to get one, and so far have ignored them.  The result is they have a bunch of guys up front who can't jump or rebound.

I'm excluding Horford, mind you, who can do some of these things, but I can't help but think his main attraction to them is he shoots 3 pointers!

Get a rim protector, Danny. The Celtics were nothing in the early 50s until they got Bill Russell.
And they have never been anything without a couple of good rebounders up front.
the celtics were a good rebounding team according to this:
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/team/_/stat/rebounds-per-game/sort/avgRebounds

as for shot blocking, it would be nice, but i dont see it as the top priority. the top priority should be a scorer.
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Re: Next (Realistic) Target
« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2016, 01:17:49 PM »

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Try James Michael McAdoo.

 A 6'9 SF who can defend and has significant amount of learned experience from GSW. Quick, runs the floor well, and can shoot.
could you be a bit more specific on this and maybe provide some support.

the numbers i saw say he has two years in the nba, has played in a total of 56 games, and has averaged 7.1 minutes per game.
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Re: Next (Realistic) Target
« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2016, 01:21:13 PM »

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I would be remiss if I didn't mention the Gerald Green is surprisingly still available. 
Time to bring him home.

Re: Next (Realistic) Target
« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2016, 01:22:11 PM »

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i am in favor for a new GM....just sayin'  :-\
seriously?

absolutely!


i am in favor for a new GM....just sayin'  :-\

Well you're in for a LONG wait then....

i know, he has wyc and the owners in his back pocket :-\

Re: Next (Realistic) Target
« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2016, 01:26:16 PM »

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Jusuf Nurkic.

Why do I get the impression Ainge-Stevens are shirking away from rim protectors and rebounders? They've had numerous opportunities to get one, and so far have ignored them.  The result is they have a bunch of guys up front who can't jump or rebound.

I'm excluding Horford, mind you, who can do some of these things, but I can't help but think his main attraction to them is he shoots 3 pointers!

Get a rim protector, Danny. The Celtics were nothing in the early 50s until they got Bill Russell.
And they have never been anything without a couple of good rebounders up front.
I don't think it's necessarily that they are shying away from a rim protector, but that they know they can put together a good defense without that defensive anchor. If anything I think they are looking for versatile big men. They don't want to give money to a player that can just block shots or is just athletic or else they would have just traded for Noel. They are looking for players like Horford who are versatile and can defend. You look at a lot of the big men they have selected and a lot of them are floor spacing, versatile big men that can do more than just rebound and block shots which are necessary to making Stevens system work. Unfortunately most of these players sacrifice rebounding and shot blocking for versatility. There are very few big men like Green, but those are the type of players that Stevens and Ainge are looking for. I don't think Ainge knows how to scout for players like that honestly or else he would've selected Portis and Giannis in those years. 

Re: Next (Realistic) Target
« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2016, 01:28:40 PM »

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Jusuf Nurkic.

Why do I get the impression Ainge-Stevens are shirking away from rim protectors and rebounders? They've had numerous opportunities to get one, and so far have ignored them.  The result is they have a bunch of guys up front who can't jump or rebound.

I'm excluding Horford, mind you, who can do some of these things, but I can't help but think his main attraction to them is he shoots 3 pointers!

Get a rim protector, Danny. The Celtics were nothing in the early 50s until they got Bill Russell.
And they have never been anything without a couple of good rebounders up front.
I don't think it's necessarily that they are shying away from a rim protector, but that they know they can put together a good defense without that defensive anchor. If anything I think they are looking for versatile big men. They don't want to give money to a player that can just block shots or is just athletic or else they would have just traded for Noel. They are looking for players like Horford who are versatile and can defend. You look at a lot of the big men they have selected and a lot of them are floor spacing, versatile big men that can do more than just rebound and block shots which are necessary to making Stevens system work. Unfortunately most of these players sacrifice rebounding and shot blocking for versatility. There are very few big men like Green, but those are the type of players that Stevens and Ainge are looking for. I don't think Ainge knows how to scout for players like that honestly or else he would've selected Portis and Giannis in those years. 

Re: Next (Realistic) Target
« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2016, 01:52:55 PM »

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to help with this thread on possible targets for the celtics, here is to the latest on the salaries for the celtics for the next few years.

jae is a steal, by the way.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/bos/salary/
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