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Re: The Brooklyn picks are untradable
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2016, 01:31:36 PM »

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What I don't get is that with all this ridiculous money being tossed at average to below average players - wouldn't any of these teams have been smart enough to realize the value of draft picks and the relatively short money you have to pay them?  I'm starting to believe its true that to many GM's feel the path to job security is sign a free agent to keep the owner happy then fire the coach when the team sucks vs developing your own players.

Re: The Brooklyn picks are untradable
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2016, 01:32:00 PM »

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DeMarcus Cousins is only turning 26 next month. He is the only player who is special enough to justify giving up the Brooklyn haul. Whether or not Vlade will go for it is another question...

Pair Cousins/Horford with elite perimeter defense and depth, and it could be possible you beat Golden State, particularly if one of their key stars is injured (like this year with Steph).

Re: The Brooklyn picks are untradable
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2016, 01:32:29 PM »

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Still think they need to get Jimmy Butler.

This is the worst possible move. We would become good enough to maybe beat the Cavs, barely good enough to take a game off the Warriors, and we would lose all of our assets.

But not doing anything but collecting picks will not even get them out of East. Sitting still and trying to wait out the storm over the next 3 or 4 years will keep them exactly where they are. The NBA drafts are becoming weaker by the year.

Re: The Brooklyn picks are untradable
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2016, 01:33:44 PM »

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Cousins would be worth the 2 remaining BRK picks in my opinion.  Butler isn't, which is why I'm glad we reportedly passed on a package of #3, Crowder, Bradley, and next year's BRK pick.

Re: The Brooklyn picks are untradable
« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2016, 01:34:19 PM »

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Still think they need to get Jimmy Butler.

This is the worst possible move. We would become good enough to maybe beat the Cavs, barely good enough to take a game off the Warriors, and we would lose all of our assets.

But not doing anything but collecting picks will not even get them out of East. Sitting still and trying to wait out the storm over the next 3 or 4 years will keep them exactly where they are. The NBA drafts are becoming weaker by the year.

Trading for Jimmy Butler will keep us exactly where we are and the picks will be all gone. What does it even matter if we win the ECF if we're getting swept in the finals?


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Re: The Brooklyn picks are untradable
« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2016, 01:34:40 PM »

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Still think they need to get Jimmy Butler.

This is the worst possible move. We would become good enough to maybe beat the Cavs, barely good enough to take a game off the Warriors, and we would lose all of our assets.

But not doing anything but collecting picks will not even get them out of East. Sitting still and trying to wait out the storm over the next 3 or 4 years will keep them exactly where they are. The NBA drafts are becoming weaker by the year.

Danny has done some pick deferments already. Maybe continuing do that while picking your spots in the draft. Either way, Celtics are in good shape to keep assets, draft high and be a top team in the East. Let's roll with it for a season and then see where we are.

Re: The Brooklyn picks are untradable
« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2016, 01:34:58 PM »

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A team of Westbrook or Chris Paul, Paul George, and DMC would probably give the GSW the toughest matchup possible.

Realistically, we could build something like:

CP
Bradley
Crowder
Horford
Cousins

They probably wouldn't be competitive with Golden State.

People are seriously overrating a team of six players with no rim protection and serious questions about fit right now lol

I'll give you the rim protection (until they bring in a ring-chaser), but what questions about fit? It's the same lineup as last year, except Kevin Durant is there instead of Harrison Barnes. They're going to win the next 3-5 titles.
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Re: The Brooklyn picks are untradable
« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2016, 01:36:28 PM »

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A team of Westbrook or Chris Paul, Paul George, and DMC would probably give the GSW the toughest matchup possible.

Realistically, we could build something like:

CP
Bradley
Crowder
Horford
Cousins

They probably wouldn't be competitive with Golden State.

People are seriously overrating a team of six players with no rim protection and serious questions about fit right now lol

I'll give you the rim protection (until they bring in a ring-chaser), but what questions about fit? It's the same lineup as last year, except Kevin Durant is there instead of Harrison Barnes. They're going to win the next 3-5 titles.

Exactly. It's a perfect fit: Durant does everything that Barnes can do, only 10x better.


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Re: The Brooklyn picks are untradable
« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2016, 01:36:52 PM »

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Cousins would be worth the 2 remaining BRK picks in my opinion.  Butler isn't, which is why I'm glad we reportedly passed on a package of #3, Crowder, Bradley, and next year's BRK pick.

I agree. Cousins (maybe PG too) is about the only guy I'd be willing to role the dice on at this point. If we find a way to maximize him, and just go at the Warriors with two stud bigs, maybe we'd have a chance.
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Re: The Brooklyn picks are untradable
« Reply #24 on: July 04, 2016, 01:37:04 PM »

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I think many are overvaluing those picks. The days of slowly building through the draft and watching a team mature until they win is over. The NBA now is about hired guns. You have to go out and get high level FA to win.

The Nets' picks just offer assets that will be used to go get bigger names. Don't see Jaylen Brown as a true impact player. Next year could be the same.


I believe the draft is exactly how you do it and GSW are a perfect example of this.

09: Curry
11: Thompson
12: Green and Barnes

Develop your own stars via the draft and obtain significant FA signings because they want to play with what you have created/established (KD).

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« Reply #25 on: July 04, 2016, 01:38:26 PM »

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A team of Westbrook or Chris Paul, Paul George, and DMC would probably give the GSW the toughest matchup possible.

Realistically, we could build something like:

CP
Bradley
Crowder
Horford
Cousins

They probably wouldn't be competitive with Golden State.

People are seriously overrating a team of six players with no rim protection and serious questions about fit right now lol

I'll give you the rim protection (until they bring in a ring-chaser), but what questions about fit? It's the same lineup as last year, except Kevin Durant is there instead of Harrison Barnes. They're going to win the next 3-5 titles.

Exactly. It's a perfect fit: Durant does everything that Barnes can do, only 10x better.

I think people don't realize how good this team will be. This is not the 2010 Heat. This is a monster, something the NBA has never seen before, and will never see again.
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« Reply #26 on: July 04, 2016, 01:39:30 PM »

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A team of Westbrook or Chris Paul, Paul George, and DMC would probably give the GSW the toughest matchup possible.

Realistically, we could build something like:

CP
Bradley
Crowder
Horford
Cousins

They probably wouldn't be competitive with Golden State.

People are seriously overrating a team of six players with no rim protection and serious questions about fit right now lol

I'll give you the rim protection (until they bring in a ring-chaser), but what questions about fit? It's the same lineup as last year, except Kevin Durant is there instead of Harrison Barnes. They're going to win the next 3-5 titles.

Exactly. It's a perfect fit: Durant does everything that Barnes can do, only 10x better.

I think people don't realize how good this team will be. This is not the 2010 Heat. This is a monster, something the NBA has never seen before, and will never see again.

I suspect they are about as unbalanced as the Russell Celtics were, only there were only 8 teams in the NBA back then.


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Re: The Brooklyn picks are untradable
« Reply #27 on: July 04, 2016, 01:41:19 PM »

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A team of Westbrook or Chris Paul, Paul George, and DMC would probably give the GSW the toughest matchup possible.

Realistically, we could build something like:

CP
Bradley
Crowder
Horford
Cousins

They probably wouldn't be competitive with Golden State.

People are seriously overrating a team of six players with no rim protection and serious questions about fit right now lol
Yup, way too early to think about how we can load up to "beat the Warriors".  I would instead focus on loading up to beat Cleveland. That is a real challenge they face today, otherwise the Finals are moot.

Re: The Brooklyn picks are untradable
« Reply #28 on: July 04, 2016, 01:41:21 PM »

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A team of Westbrook or Chris Paul, Paul George, and DMC would probably give the GSW the toughest matchup possible.

Realistically, we could build something like:

CP
Bradley
Crowder
Horford
Cousins

They probably wouldn't be competitive with Golden State.

People are seriously overrating a team of six players with no rim protection and serious questions about fit right now lol

I'll give you the rim protection (until they bring in a ring-chaser), but what questions about fit? It's the same lineup as last year, except Kevin Durant is there instead of Harrison Barnes. They're going to win the next 3-5 titles.

Exactly. It's a perfect fit: Durant does everything that Barnes can do, only 10x better.

I think people don't realize how good this team will be. This is not the 2010 Heat. This is a monster, something the NBA has never seen before, and will never see again.

I suspect they are about as unbalanced as the Russell Celtics were, only there were only 8 teams in the NBA back then.

Probably. Perhaps I should've given the caveat "in modern NBA history."
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Re: The Brooklyn picks are untradable
« Reply #29 on: July 04, 2016, 01:41:37 PM »

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I wouldn't say they're untradeable. Our current team plus Paul George stands a pretty good chance at beating CLE and GSW, IMO. Probably the Spurs with Gasol does as well.

Durant's impact on the game is minimized on a team like GSW, IMO.
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