Revisiting a Smart for Noel trade

[arctic 3.0]

This topic was hashed out over the winter but I thought it deserved another look.
With a 6'10 point guard now running the show in philly do the Sixers really need a ball dominant Pg?

Smart would be a good fit there.

But I'm not trying to make the '6rs better...
Does slotting Noel into the middle help this team more than Marcus "bulldog" Smart?
 
He certainly fills a need, and plays with similar passion.

We would still have Bradley, crowder manning the perimeter D.
Brown's likely to contribute some tenacious D this year and Rozier looks to be improving.

That's a good stock of hard nosed defenders on the wing.

Swapping Swapping smart for a big (especially one who brings the same passion for D) seems to me to be the right call.

Both teams need what the others got, hope they can make a trade.

(How long before the haters turn this into a criticism of DA's "no fair trade" agenda?)

[MBunge]

It's not a terrible idea, depending on how Rozier and Jackson look.  I prefer Smart but if this team comes out of the free agent market and still doesn't have a defensive center, it would certainly be worth considering.  The biggest hitch might be how much it's going to cost to resign Noel.  His value is depressed right now because Philly has just been so bleepin' awful but if he comes to Boston and puts up the same numbers on a playoff team, it would be hugely expensive to retain him.  And if you're going to be spending max or near-max dollars, wouldn't you rather have somebody like Whiteside or even Howard?

Mike

[wiley]

I think Smart is headed for a better career than Noel.  Too much leadership to give up, and eventual 2-way impact.  Or, if giving him up, wait a bit and get something much better. 

If chasing a big, I'd rather trade him out west for a decent 2-way big and good looking future pick, or a young big with good potential who won't need to be resigned next year (WCS?), plus and minus whatever needed. 

In any case, I think the return for Smart will jump a lot during or after this upcoming season, and so patience is best.

[budMovin]

I think Smart is headed for a better career than Noel.  Too much leadership to give up, and eventual 2-way impact.  Or, if giving him up, wait a bit and get something much better. 

If chasing a big, I'd rather trade him out west for a decent 2-way big and good looking future pick, or a young big with good potential who won't need to be resigned next year (WCS?), plus and minus whatever needed. 

In any case, I think the return for Smart will jump a lot during or after this upcoming season, and so patience is best.

Who are we talking about?

[wiley]

I think Smart is headed for a better career than Noel.  Too much leadership to give up, and eventual 2-way impact.  Or, if giving him up, wait a bit and get something much better. 

If chasing a big, I'd rather trade him out west for a decent 2-way big and good looking future pick, or a young big with good potential who won't need to be resigned next year (WCS?), plus and minus whatever needed. 

In any case, I think the return for Smart will jump a lot during or after this upcoming season, and so patience is best.

Who are we talking about?

The Celtics have openly talked about Marcus' effect on his teammates.  Not all leaders are stars (see Posey).

[Beat LA]

Will the obsession with Easter Island ever end?

[wiley]

Will the obsession with Easter Island ever end?

No it will not.  There are no bigs but Philly bigs.

[Diggles]

If Danny/Team has a plan for a C this off season or even mid season.   Then I'll be glad we didn't trade him. 

[hpantazo]

I would never trade Smart for Noel. Smart is such a tough nosed , two way player who impacts the game so much. I really want to see him and Brown develop together. In 2-3 years they could be a force to be reckoned with.

Noel doesn't provide anything we can't get on the free agent market right now. Biyombo can give us what Noel would give us. So can other players.

[positivitize]

I hope Smart doesn't get traded. He's so much fun to watch.

TP Hpantazo

[Beat LA]

I would never trade Smart for Noel. Smart is such a tough nosed , two way player who impacts the game so much. I really want to see him and Brown develop together. In 2-3 years they could be a force to be reckoned with.

Noel doesn't provide anything we can't get on the free agent market right now. Biyombo can give us what Noel would give us. So can other players.

Imagine Smart, Brown, and Biyombo on the court at the same time . How the hell are we going to score, lol?

[CoachBo]

This topic was hashed out over the winter but I thought it deserved another look.
With a 6'10 point guard now running the show in philly do the Sixers really need a ball dominant Pg?

Smart would be a good fit there.

But I'm not trying to make the '6rs better...
Does slotting Noel into the middle help this team more than Marcus "bulldog" Smart?
 
He certainly fills a need, and plays with similar passion.

We would still have Bradley, crowder manning the perimeter D.
Brown's likely to contribute some tenacious D this year and Rozier looks to be improving.

That's a good stock of hard nosed defenders on the wing.

Swapping Swapping smart for a big (especially one who brings the same passion for D) seems to me to be the right call.

Both teams need what the others got, hope they can make a trade.

(How long before the haters turn this into a criticism of DA's "no fair trade" agenda?)

I'd make that trade tomorrow. I don't think Smart will ever consistently score the basketball, and I have serious questions about his maturity as well.

[hpantazo]

I would never trade Smart for Noel. Smart is such a tough nosed , two way player who impacts the game so much. I really want to see him and Brown develop together. In 2-3 years they could be a force to be reckoned with.

Noel doesn't provide anything we can't get on the free agent market right now. Biyombo can give us what Noel would give us. So can other players.

Imagine Smart, Brown, and Biyombo on the court at the same time . How the hell are we going to score, lol?

Put IT and Horford out there with them. I'm expecting Brown to be quite a scorer eventually, and Smart too. Smart showed flashes of it now and then in a few big games last season, including against Westbrook, and in the playoffs. Biyombo...yeah....not so much.

[wiley]

This topic was hashed out over the winter but I thought it deserved another look.
With a 6'10 point guard now running the show in philly do the Sixers really need a ball dominant Pg?

Smart would be a good fit there.

But I'm not trying to make the '6rs better...
Does slotting Noel into the middle help this team more than Marcus "bulldog" Smart?
 
He certainly fills a need, and plays with similar passion.

We would still have Bradley, crowder manning the perimeter D.
Brown's likely to contribute some tenacious D this year and Rozier looks to be improving.

That's a good stock of hard nosed defenders on the wing.

Swapping Swapping smart for a big (especially one who brings the same passion for D) seems to me to be the right call.

Both teams need what the others got, hope they can make a trade.

(How long before the haters turn this into a criticism of DA's "no fair trade" agenda?)

I'd make that trade tomorrow. I don't think Smart will ever consistently score the basketball, and I have serious questions about his maturity as well.

Maturity issues?  So you'd trade him for a guy who trashed a rental house with marijuana, gatorade, and other crap, and left a "rest in peace" sign on the front walkway? 

[hpantazo]

This topic was hashed out over the winter but I thought it deserved another look.
With a 6'10 point guard now running the show in philly do the Sixers really need a ball dominant Pg?

Smart would be a good fit there.

But I'm not trying to make the '6rs better...
Does slotting Noel into the middle help this team more than Marcus "bulldog" Smart?
 
He certainly fills a need, and plays with similar passion.

We would still have Bradley, crowder manning the perimeter D.
Brown's likely to contribute some tenacious D this year and Rozier looks to be improving.

That's a good stock of hard nosed defenders on the wing.

Swapping Swapping smart for a big (especially one who brings the same passion for D) seems to me to be the right call.

Both teams need what the others got, hope they can make a trade.

(How long before the haters turn this into a criticism of DA's "no fair trade" agenda?)

I'd make that trade tomorrow. I don't think Smart will ever consistently score the basketball, and I have serious questions about his maturity as well.

Smart's offensive game is already miles better than Noel's and he is also a better defender. Also, it's not a good idea to bring up maturity when defending Noel, he's not exactly the best example of a mature person with what he did last year reportedly.