C's have a great young nucleus

[walker834]

I don't necessarily buy this theory but we have a lot of young talented players now that can play up tempo and hustle and develop all on affordable rookie to secondary deals.  Brown, Smart, Yab, Zizic, BEntil, Jackson, Rozier etc.. Plus vets like Bradley, KO, Crowder and Isaiah.  Decisions to make on Turner, Sully, Jerebko and Zeller.

We can go out and offer max contracts to guys like Durant and Horford and keep a guy like Jerebko too.

San Antonio  had Duncan and guys like that but they also were able to develop a guy like Kawii and their young players to replace them and add energy  in this interm.

[walker834]

Making trades for guys like Butler etc made sense if it was the right price or deal. But not the end all be all. We did better in ways.  Same with Okafor.    Why sacrifice our future making shortsighted deals.

Philly wanted us to take on 2 more late first picks and covington for noel.  Chicago wanted too much for Butler. Those aren't smart deals.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

NBA Allstars: Thomas
NBA Starters: Bradley, Crowder, Johnson
NBA Role Players: Olynyk, Jerebko, Turner (FA), Sullinger (FA), Zeller (FA)
NBA Prospects with Allstar potential: Smart, Brown, Yabasule
NBA Prospects with Starter potential: Rozier, Mickey, Zizic
NBA Prospects with Role Player potential: Hunter, Bentil, Jackson

It seems to me that we are replacing good role players with higher potential guys, while still putting out a solid NBA starting lineup. I'd like to trade a few of our prospects and get another starter who fits our culture--this would free up coaches to focus on the development of a few guys--but I trust Ainge and CBS.

[Dino Pitino]

Making trades for guys like Butler etc made sense if it was the right price or deal. But not the end all be all. We did better in ways.  Same with Okafor.    Why sacrifice our future making shortsighted deals.

Philly wanted us to take on 2 more late first picks and covington for noel.  Chicago wanted too much for Butler. Those aren't smart deals.

"Take on"? Huh? As if they were burdens??

[walker834]

Fans want Jimmy Chitwood.  It's like Gene Hackman in hoosiers where fans don't understand the situation. Funny Danny wanted that role in hoosiers too

http://nesn.com/2013/10/danny-ainge-wanted-role-of-jimmy-chitwood-in-hoosiers-warned-actor-he-would-take-his-spot/

Danny wants to deliver the goods? But is doing it the right way.  I feel like we have just good young players and a team though.  I'm not too worried about it.  It says something Ainge is willing to explore these situations and he does, but he's not making bad deals and can't control what those players or teams do.

[walker834]

There's no set way to do it is all I know.   GS had players like Jason richardson, Iggy off their bench.  San Antonio has a good mix.  You need talent and a nucleus young or old. When we had KG, Ray and Pierce we had guys like Rondo, Perk, Davis, Posey etc as well.  Talent is talent to me.  Having a talented roster and then adding a couple stars with the cap space and talent we have isn't out of the question. That's how dynasties are built.

[PaulAllen]

Please for God sake stop thinking this team EVER had a chance at Durant...

[walker834]

I'm not saying it's happening but that's even more reason not to make shortsighted deals for Jimmy Butler or Okafor. What does that solve? OKC just made a deal giving up Ibaka though. Durant might give them another shot and probably will but that team could fall apart imo.

Making short sighted deals is how teams get stuck in the middle and end up then losing those players.

We still have a shot at those guys vs being a team making short sighted deals and then losing them and being left with nothing.

We have a good  young nucleus to develop vs being that.  We are still in the game.

[walker834]

We get a couple max guys though and the right guys and suddenly this is very different.  That's all I'm saying.  In the meantime we are drafting and developing our own talent. We have more nets picks coming up as well. Picked up another 1st round pick.   The Celtics have never promised this is going to happen but the right situation comes up they are prepared for it.

If it doesn't our own draft picks will be good by then anyways and we'll be signing them to big contracts.  They are on rookie deals right now.

[walker834]

We have kept flexibility to sign 2 max players.   We didn't do anything shortsighted and sell the farm for Butler.  Or take on a bunch of crap for Noel.  We also drafted well and increased our talent level where our own players can become those stars.

[Celtics18]

Please for God sake stop thinking this team EVER had a chance at Durant...

We don't have a chance at Durant?!!!

[walker834]

Had we done any stupid deals we wouldn't have a chance at durant that's the point.  Trading for Noel who is on a 1 year deal and crap wasn't making that happen.  Neither was selling the farm for Butler.  That would have been us banking our entire future on getting durant. We'd have no other players left.

What is it that some fans don't understand here? I don't mind fans expressing their displeasure and wanting to win but they are not thinking logically. If they were they would have been cheering what Ainge did.

Because it was exactly the right thing to do.

Fans don't research this stuff themselves or look at it logically. They are followers. They were promised fireworks according to them. They didn't get it so they boo. 

If they actually looked at it logically they'd be cheering because what Danny is doing is right. But people don't think that way. 

They are like booooooo.  "We don't understand what we are booing about. But booooo anyways. We deserve to win etc, etc.  We were promised this."  This is really what goes on in some peoples minds.

Even though Ainge has said repeatedly what he is doing, will do and is trying to do.

I get people wanted other things have other ideas.  But even still.   What Ainge is doing is concrete in that regard.

[walker834]

It's the same with how danny decided to draft as well.  A lot of fans thought we should take who was consensus rated such and such but a lot of these players are overhyped.  Think they are better than they are. Have different motivations etc.  Aren't going to fit into the team concept or what we are trying to do. Ainge drafted players that fit what we are trying to do.

Drafting a guy like Dunn or Valentine or Davis or whoever.  Those situations might not have been as good as people think.  Ainge is drafting players that fit a certain style, want to play here and are part of something bigger than that.

He also drafted the best player in Brown I feel and kept the 3rd pick vs trading down picking up more picks or whatever which isn't what we needed.

[walker834]

We have Sully, Zeller, Jerebko, and Turner we are making decisions on. In the playoffs last year that was really our achilles heel. The consensus said it was our shooting.  But we really lacked energy and atheticism and talent at those spots.

All the guys Ainge drafted.  Brown, Zizic, yab, Bentil, Jackson all are potential upgrades there plus have stash potential and give us flexibilty.  Plus they are stevens type players who bring energy and toughness and give a different dynamic to our team we lacked last year.

Plus they are players we can develop for the future as well who could be key roleplayers down the road.

People also say Ainge is trying to rip people off himself and win trades. No he's not. He'd do a fair deal if it was there and helped both teams.  He would have traded for Butler if it was a fair deal and was good for both sides.  Finding those deals is difficult. Same with Okafor.  If we could have gotten Okafor and Saric for the Dunn and something else I bet he would have done it or at least thought hard about it. I bet he would have traded Bradley plus the 3 and something else for Butler as well.  Or even work to find other parties to get teams what they wanted.   He wasn't going to do those deals that were offered though.

Brown is a really good player. I'm glad he didn't do those deals anyways.  He was willing to talk about them though in the right situation he may have done them.  Something didn't feel right there though with me either.

[mctyson]

NBA Allstars: Thomas
NBA Starters: Bradley, Crowder, Johnson
NBA Role Players: Olynyk, Jerebko, Turner (FA), Sullinger (FA), Zeller (FA)
NBA Prospects with Allstar potential: Smart, Brown, Yabasule
NBA Prospects with Starter potential: Rozier, Mickey, Zizic
NBA Prospects with Role Player potential: Hunter, Bentil, Jackson

It seems to me that we are replacing good role players with higher potential guys, while still putting out a solid NBA starting lineup. I'd like to trade a few of our prospects and get another starter who fits our culture--this would free up coaches to focus on the development of a few guys--but I trust Ainge and CBS.

This is how you build a franchise and a dynasty. 

This is not 2007 when we had one All-Star and a bunch of nothing from a 27-win team.  That team had to supplement Paul Pierce with others like him or Pierce needed to go.

In 2016, we have one of the youngest rosters in the league and legitimately should have won 50 games last season.  Adding multiple young guys who could be studs for a decade is EXACTLY what we should be doing.