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Why more guards, when we really need a Center?
« on: June 23, 2016, 05:33:31 PM »

Offline Johnny Mic

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Shouldn't we be drafting to address our needs?  This board screams rim protection all year and all the hype is about guards. All this talk of the Brown-Heild-Dunn muddies an already crowded roster.  We have players that can score.

We already have our own 3 point shooting, 7' stretch 4-5 with KO...so forget Bender - more redundancy.

Why not take the arguably former pre-season #1: Skal Labissiere.

He held his own with Ben Simmons in the tournament.  He can help right away, he blocks shots.  He can hit the spot up jumper.  He's an upgrade over Zeller and Johnson.

We'd be crazy to pass on his potential for yet another volume scoring guard.

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Re: Why more guards, when we really need a Center?
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2016, 05:37:00 PM »

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Shouldn't we be drafting to address our needs?   This board screams rim protection all year and all the hype is about guards. All this talk of the Brown-Heild-Dunn muddies an already crowded roster.  We have players that can score.

We already have our own 3 point shooting, 7' stretch 4-5 with KO...so forget Bender - more redundancy.

Why not take the arguably former pre-season #1: Skal Labissiere.

He held his own with Ben Simmons in the tournament.  He can help right away, he blocks shots.  He can hit the spot up jumper.  He's an upgrade over Zeller and Johnson.

We'd be crazy to pass on his potential for yet another volume scoring guard.

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Put this kid in the weight room and let Brad unlock this kid's Jedi powers.
Ainge has stated numerous time that he will draft BPA.

That said, I just convinced myself he will take Bender.  If he takes one of the many guards available, the logjam created will put him in an underdog position in any trade negotiations, much like the situation Philly is in now with their frontcourt.

Re: Why more guards, when we really need a Center?
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2016, 05:37:32 PM »

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Re: Why more guards, when we really need a Center?
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2016, 05:38:52 PM »

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Draft BPA not for need.  No need to reach at #3.


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Re: Why more guards, when we really need a Center?
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2016, 05:42:43 PM »

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When you're a 48 win playoff team picking #3 overall you go BPA all day, every day.

Re: Why more guards, when we really need a Center?
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2016, 05:45:34 PM »

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Shouldn't we be drafting to address our needs?  This board screams rim protection all year and all the hype is about guards. All this talk of the Brown-Heild-Dunn muddies an already crowded roster.  We have players that can score.

We already have our own 3 point shooting, 7' stretch 4-5 with KO...so forget Bender - more redundancy.

Why not take the arguably former pre-season #1: Skal Labissiere.

He held his own with Ben Simmons in the tournament.  He can help right away, he blocks shots.  He can hit the spot up jumper.  He's an upgrade over Zeller and Johnson.

We'd be crazy to pass on his potential for yet another volume scoring guard.

Pre Draft Workout: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4aTa6Ng3pM

Put this kid in the weight room and let Brad unlock this kid's Jedi powers. 
I believe most teams would like to have all of Bender, Olynyk and Labissiere, at least the smart one's.  They can certainly play together and be devastating to opposing defenses.  I am rooting hard for the C's to somehow draft both Bender and Lab enabling them to get ahead of the curve on 2 way stretch bigs that are exceedingly hard to find. 

Re: Why more guards, when we really need a Center?
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2016, 05:46:31 PM »

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When you're a 48 win playoff team picking #3 overall you go BPA all day, every day.
So, Okafor.

Re: Why more guards, when we really need a Center?
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2016, 05:50:23 PM »

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Draft BPA not for need.  No need to reach at #3.

Foolish and lazy planning is this mind set.  If you have a prospect that fills the need you draft him otherwise you're in our position where you have potentially with Dunn....4 [dang] point guards on the roster!  How are guys gonna get minutes?  How are guys gonna develop?  Should a #6 pg aka Marcus smart ride the pine because. #3 unproven college player has been chosen?  Or do we play small ball all year and get killed inside?

We got a guard last year when we clearly needed a wing, with a decent wing available...rhj.  We can argue who woulda had the bigger long term impact, but as it stands we'll never know.

And I don't think Dunn is BPA.  I think hield or Murray are at that spot, and they provide us depth and scoring at sg.  Something we need.  Go figure  :-X

Re: Why more guards, when we really need a Center?
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2016, 05:51:43 PM »

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Shouldn't we be drafting to address our needs?  This board screams rim protection all year and all the hype is about guards. All this talk of the Brown-Heild-Dunn muddies an already crowded roster.  We have players that can score.

We already have our own 3 point shooting, 7' stretch 4-5 with KO...so forget Bender - more redundancy.

Why not take the arguably former pre-season #1: Skal Labissiere.

He held his own with Ben Simmons in the tournament.  He can help right away, he blocks shots.  He can hit the spot up jumper.  He's an upgrade over Zeller and Johnson.

We'd be crazy to pass on his potential for yet another volume scoring guard.

Pre Draft Workout: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4aTa6Ng3pM

Put this kid in the weight room and let Brad unlock this kid's Jedi powers. 
I believe most teams would like to have all of Bender, Olynyk and Labissiere, at least the smart one's.  They can certainly play together and be devastating to opposing defenses.  I am rooting hard for the C's to somehow draft both Bender and Lab enabling them to get ahead of the curve on 2 way stretch bigs that are exceedingly hard to find.

The only think Olynyk has shown the ability to devastate is Kevin Love's shoulder.


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Re: Why more guards, when we really need a Center?
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2016, 06:00:29 PM »

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Shouldn't we be drafting to address our needs?  This board screams rim protection all year and all the hype is about guards. All this talk of the Brown-Heild-Dunn muddies an already crowded roster.  We have players that can score.

We already have our own 3 point shooting, 7' stretch 4-5 with KO...so forget Bender - more redundancy.

Why not take the arguably former pre-season #1: Skal Labissiere.

He held his own with Ben Simmons in the tournament.  He can help right away, he blocks shots.  He can hit the spot up jumper.  He's an upgrade over Zeller and Johnson.

We'd be crazy to pass on his potential for yet another volume scoring guard.

Pre Draft Workout: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4aTa6Ng3pM

Put this kid in the weight room and let Brad unlock this kid's Jedi powers. 
I believe most teams would like to have all of Bender, Olynyk and Labissiere, at least the smart one's.  They can certainly play together and be devastating to opposing defenses.  I am rooting hard for the C's to somehow draft both Bender and Lab enabling them to get ahead of the curve on 2 way stretch bigs that are exceedingly hard to find.

The only think Olynyk has shown the ability to devastate is Kevin Love's shoulder.
Every statistical analysis available would beg to differ.  This whole forum is blind to his actual value as are pretty much everyone else.  You will see soon enough.  There is a definitive advantage to be had that I will post about but probably not until after free agency.  You can believe me or not.

Re: Why more guards, when we really need a Center?
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2016, 06:03:35 PM »

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Every statistical analysis available would beg to differ.

That's nonsense.


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Re: Why more guards, when we really need a Center?
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2016, 06:03:36 PM »

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Shouldn't we be drafting to address our needs?  This board screams rim protection all year and all the hype is about guards. All this talk of the Brown-Heild-Dunn muddies an already crowded roster.  We have players that can score.

We already have our own 3 point shooting, 7' stretch 4-5 with KO...so forget Bender - more redundancy.

Why not take the arguably former pre-season #1: Skal Labissiere.

He held his own with Ben Simmons in the tournament.  He can help right away, he blocks shots.  He can hit the spot up jumper.  He's an upgrade over Zeller and Johnson.

We'd be crazy to pass on his potential for yet another volume scoring guard.

Pre Draft Workout: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4aTa6Ng3pM

Put this kid in the weight room and let Brad unlock this kid's Jedi powers. 
I believe most teams would like to have all of Bender, Olynyk and Labissiere, at least the smart one's.  They can certainly play together and be devastating to opposing defenses.  I am rooting hard for the C's to somehow draft both Bender and Lab enabling them to get ahead of the curve on 2 way stretch bigs that are exceedingly hard to find.

The only think Olynyk has shown the ability to devastate is Kevin Love's shoulder.

That's pretty funny, but I remember KO dropping 30+ on Golden State this year, so humph.

Re: Why more guards, when we really need a Center?
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2016, 06:03:43 PM »

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Draft BPA not for need.  No need to reach at #3.

Foolish and lazy planning is this mind set.  If you have a prospect that fills the need you draft him otherwise you're in our position where you have potentially with Dunn....4 [dang] point guards on the roster!  How are guys gonna get minutes?  How are guys gonna develop?  Should a #6 pg aka Marcus smart ride the pine because. #3 unproven college player has been chosen?  Or do we play small ball all year and get killed inside?

We got a guard last year when we clearly needed a wing, with a decent wing available...rhj.  We can argue who woulda had the bigger long term impact, but as it stands we'll never know.

And I don't think Dunn is BPA.  I think hield or Murray are at that spot, and they provide us depth and scoring at sg.  Something we need.  Go figure  :-X

You'd have a more convincing argument if we drafted at #16 again, like last year, but at #3, you have to go BPA.
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Re: Why more guards, when we really need a Center?
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2016, 06:10:17 PM »

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It stinks that Marcus hasn't developed to what the media pumped him up to be. I'm not crazy about yet another pg but then again Marcus hasn't BEEN a pg thanks to coach Brad . But the way I look at it is with Marcus not being what they had hoped we can't let that stop us from drafting the next Wade ( who some people compare Dunn too).

Re: Why more guards, when we really need a Center?
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2016, 06:16:16 PM »

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When you're a 48 win playoff team picking #3 overall you go BPA all day, every day.
So, Okafor.

He's definitely not the BPA.

But if you can get him as a free throw-in on a Nerlens Noel deal I'll take it.