The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)

[Big333223]

I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season.  He will help them but not significantly.

Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?

[libermaniac]

I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season.  He will help them but not significantly.

Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?

Why is that a smart move?  Their smartest move would be to trade Lopez for a first rounder, and take the Philly route of stinking for a few years to get some nice draft picks.  If you add Porter and Ibaka, they are likely to be in the mid-end of the lottery (6th-10th) worst record.  There is still the hope for lotto luck, but there would be a VERY good chance you get picks in the 8th-12th range, that don't help you change your franchise, and then you are stuck in NBA purgatory.  The only way that makes sense is a HUGE overpay on a one year deal just to put butts in the seats since it won't be their pick they are hurting next year.  But, not sure if those players would go for huge one year deals ... maybe.

[mef730]

THE MAGIC NUMBER IS 1!

Sorry for the shouting, I'm just excited. BKN is exactly 27 games behind us, with 27 left to go. One Brooklyn loss or Celtics win between now and the end of the season means that they are switching picks with us.*

I don't like to get ahead of myself on these things, but I'm feeling pretty good about this one.

Mike

*Technically, even if we finish ahead of BKN, we could still be in a situation where we wouldn't switch picks. Without involving trades or other teams, a TP to the first person who can tell me how such a situation could occur.

If both the Cs and Brooklyn were in the lottery and the Celtics pick won it/was higher than the Brooklyn pick even if Brooklyn was worse during the regular season.

TP to you.

Mike

[mef730]

I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season.  He will help them but not significantly.

Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?

Why is that a smart move?  Their smartest move would be to trade Lopez for a first rounder, and take the Philly route of stinking for a few years to get some nice draft picks.  If you add Porter and Ibaka, they are likely to be in the mid-end of the lottery (6th-10th) worst record.  There is still the hope for lotto luck, but there would be a VERY good chance you get picks in the 8th-12th range, that don't help you change your franchise, and then you are stuck in NBA purgatory.  The only way that makes sense is a HUGE overpay on a one year deal just to put butts in the seats since it won't be their pick they are hurting next year.  But, not sure if those players would go for huge one year deals ... maybe.

I don't think they would go for huge one-year deals, because there is likely somebody out there willing to offer them huge four-year deals.

You are right about the best option to go all Philly on the NBA, but this ownership team has not shown any common sense so far. Wonder if that'll change.

Mike

[Redz]

THE MAGIC NUMBER IS 1!

Sorry for the shouting, I'm just excited. BKN is exactly 27 games behind us, with 27 left to go. One Brooklyn loss or Celtics win between now and the end of the season means that they are switching picks with us.*

I don't like to get ahead of myself on these things, but I'm feeling pretty good about this one.

Mike

*Technically, even if we finish ahead of BKN, we could still be in a situation where we wouldn't switch picks. Without involving trades or other teams, a TP to the first person who can tell me how such a situation could occur.

If both the Cs and Brooklyn were in the lottery and the Celtics pick won it/was higher than the Brooklyn pick even if Brooklyn was worse during the regular season.

TP to you.

Mike

Or if we make a trade swapping the picks back again with them I guess. 

[Quetzalcoatl]

THE MAGIC NUMBER IS 1!

Sorry for the shouting, I'm just excited. BKN is exactly 27 games behind us, with 27 left to go. One Brooklyn loss or Celtics win between now and the end of the season means that they are switching picks with us.*

I don't like to get ahead of myself on these things, but I'm feeling pretty good about this one.

Mike

*Technically, even if we finish ahead of BKN, we could still be in a situation where we wouldn't switch picks. Without involving trades or other teams, a TP to the first person who can tell me how such a situation could occur.

If both the Cs and Brooklyn were in the lottery and the Celtics pick won it/was higher than the Brooklyn pick even if Brooklyn was worse during the regular season.

Yeah but the priority is to get them as bad of a pick as possible in a loaded draft.  I'd much rather them get say Tyler Lydon than Dwayne Bacon.  Plus, someone like Harry Giles could slip to 20 at this point, although it's unlikely.  Let's just win more games and hope that they draft a scrub.  After next year, hopefully they can start getting their act together because I am feeling bad for their fans.

[trickybilly]

Speaking of the swap, another incentive to chase down Cleveland is making sure the Nets get the 27th pick. Not the 26th.

[SHAQATTACK]

Get our Mojo back

[saltlover]

Suns up 20 on the Lakers at halftime.  If the score holds, the Nets would have to double their season win total in their final 26 games to even have a chance of not finishing with the worst record.

[Celts Fan 508]

I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season.  He will help them but not significantly.

Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?

Why is that a smart move?  Their smartest move would be to trade Lopez for a first rounder, and take the Philly route of stinking for a few years to get some nice draft picks.  If you add Porter and Ibaka, they are likely to be in the mid-end of the lottery (6th-10th) worst record.  There is still the hope for lotto luck, but there would be a VERY good chance you get picks in the 8th-12th range, that don't help you change your franchise, and then you are stuck in NBA purgatory.  The only way that makes sense is a HUGE overpay on a one year deal just to put butts in the seats since it won't be their pick they are hurting next year.  But, not sure if those players would go for huge one year deals ... maybe.

I agree, but they play in New York and it has been a disaster for them.  I think Porter is a good fit there because I like his game and he's young.  Trade Lopez for picks and an expiring, try to sign some players to one year deals and build around Porter until you hit in the draft. 

I think being in Brooklyn they could lose that crowd quick if they go full Philly. 

[jambr380]

I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season.  He will help them but not significantly.

Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?

Why in the world would either Porter or Ibaka sign with BKN, though? They are just dreadful. Since Toronto just traded for Serge, it is likely they sign him to a pretty hefty deal. They can also offer a 5th year which is humongous with his age concerns.

With Porter, he is going to have several teams lined up to offer max or near max offers (including the Wiz). Assuming he wanted to leave, why wouldn't he choose a team like the Cs over BKN? A lot of things would have to really fall right for BKN to sign anybody of consequence. We saw how things went down this past off-season when they had loads of money to spend.

[mctyson]

I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season.  He will help them but not significantly.

Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?

Why in the world would either Porter or Ibaka sign with BKN, though? They are just dreadful. Since Toronto just traded for Serge, it is likely they sign him to a pretty hefty deal. They can also offer a 5th year which is humongous with his age concerns.

With Porter, he is going to have several teams lined up to offer max or near max offers (including the Wiz). Assuming he wanted to leave, why wouldn't he choose a team like the Cs over BKN? A lot of things would have to really fall right for BKN to sign anybody of consequence. We saw how things went down this past off-season when they had loads of money to spend.

Money.

I have been of the opinion the Nets have totally blown this rebuild.  They should have traded away every valuable player on their roster last year for whatever draft picks they could get, and bottomed out, even with the Cs having their pick. 

They should then go after every young quality free agent possible, basically with the position that 'it's your team and we will build around you.'  Porter fits this mold.  Unfortunately, they have no assets to fit around him besides other FAs and these guys most likely will be vets who will not let him be the guy.

[saltlover]

I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season.  He will help them but not significantly.

Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?

Why in the world would either Porter or Ibaka sign with BKN, though? They are just dreadful. Since Toronto just traded for Serge, it is likely they sign him to a pretty hefty deal. They can also offer a 5th year which is humongous with his age concerns.

With Porter, he is going to have several teams lined up to offer max or near max offers (including the Wiz). Assuming he wanted to leave, why wouldn't he choose a team like the Cs over BKN? A lot of things would have to really fall right for BKN to sign anybody of consequence. We saw how things went down this past off-season when they had loads of money to spend.

Porter's been third fiddle in Washington, he might like the opportunity to show he's capable of being the lead dog.  Of course, he's restricted, and Washington could match (although I'm on record as saying they won't if he's offered the max.)

[Ogaju]

Game over in Brooklyn, Celtics win.

[fantankerous]

I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season.  He will help them but not significantly.

Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?

Why in the world would either Porter or Ibaka sign with BKN, though? They are just dreadful. Since Toronto just traded for Serge, it is likely they sign him to a pretty hefty deal. They can also offer a 5th year which is humongous with his age concerns.

With Porter, he is going to have several teams lined up to offer max or near max offers (including the Wiz). Assuming he wanted to leave, why wouldn't he choose a team like the Cs over BKN? A lot of things would have to really fall right for BKN to sign anybody of consequence. We saw how things went down this past off-season when they had loads of money to spend.

Porter's been third fiddle in Washington, he might like the opportunity to show he's capable of being the lead dog.  Of course, he's restricted, and Washington could match (although I'm on record as saying they won't if he's offered the max.)

Good point.  I don't think Brooklyn will be the only team offering Porter the max though.