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Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-9, #6 on 11/20)
« Reply #450 on: November 21, 2016, 12:12:49 AM »

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Two important wins from the kings and nuggets today. Gives the nets sole possession of the 6th seed, with half a game away from the 4th seed, which would match that of their net rating (4th from last). Realistically I expect to see NOLA, Dallas, and Washington get their acts together and win some games in the near future. 
Also a win-win games tomorrow between miami and philly, and washington and phoenix
Best case would be a ton of teams being separated by a half game for the #2 seed.
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Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
« Reply #451 on: November 21, 2016, 12:33:18 AM »

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They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes. 

Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
2-0

but yea
Ravaged by injury yet again!

Lol. Do you think they will do a 30 for 30 on the Jarrett Jack injury?

Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
« Reply #452 on: November 21, 2016, 01:16:24 AM »

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They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes. 

Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
2-0

but yea
Ravaged by injury yet again!

Lol. Do you think they will do a 30 for 30 on the Jarrett Jack injury?
What if I told you, they were secretly a playoff team despite never once crawling out of the bottom 6.

Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
« Reply #453 on: November 21, 2016, 07:09:56 AM »

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I can't believe some people are panicking that the Nets won a few games (4!). Even with their torrid pace they are exactly"2" games ahead of the 3rd worse record in the league. Their schedule for the next 6 games (@Lakers; @Clippers, @OKC; vs Portland, vs. C's; @Indiana) is not all that promising for their continued dominance over the league, as only 1 team has a worse record by 1/2 game (Indiana). I see a back to reality moment for the Nets over the next two weeks.
As predicted (correctly) the Nets are back to (reality) where they belong. No need to panic and no need to stick up for the Nets and how much better they are than last year. They may be but not to the point where they'll finish out of the top 5.

Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-9, #6 on 11/20)
« Reply #454 on: November 21, 2016, 07:53:39 AM »

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Nuggets beat the Jazz and Kings beat the Raptors. Two great wins for us tonight.
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

quoting 'Greg B' on RealGM after 2017 trade deadline.
Read that last line again. One more time.

Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
« Reply #455 on: November 21, 2016, 08:03:49 AM »

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They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes. 

Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
2-0

but yea
Ravaged by injury yet again!

Lol. Do you think they will do a 30 for 30 on the Jarrett Jack injury?
What if I told you, they were secretly a playoff team despite never once crawling out of the bottom 6.

TP.  I kept trying to come up with a witty tagline, but couldn't.  That was solid.

Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
« Reply #456 on: November 21, 2016, 08:04:11 AM »

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They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes. 

Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
2-0

but yea
Ravaged by injury yet again!

Lol. Do you think they will do a 30 for 30 on the Jarrett Jack injury?
That's a great idea.  People need to realize how much of a difference maker Jack is.

Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-9, #6 on 11/20)
« Reply #457 on: November 21, 2016, 08:13:37 AM »

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They currently have the fourth worst point differential at -6.8 ppg.

Orlando (-7.3), Dallas (-7.4), and Philadelphia (-10.4) are currently worse.




Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
« Reply #458 on: November 21, 2016, 01:53:28 PM »

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They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes. 

Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
2-0

but yea
Ravaged by injury yet again!

Lol. Do you think they will do a 30 for 30 on the Jarrett Jack injury?
That's a great idea.  People need to realize how much of a difference maker Jack is.

I am assuming you are joking, but there are some people that really did believe that. He couldn't make a team this year (was cut by the hawks and beat out by Will Bynum) and hasn't been signed anywhere else. He also was shooting 39% from the field and 30% from 3 and "jacking" 11 shots a game last year. I think he actually makes teams worse when he plays for them. I live in the Bay Area and I remember a few of the radio guys and commentators talking about that. He really killed their ball movement when he was here and it immediately moved a lot better when he was gone. This was also 3 years ago when he was a lot better player.

Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
« Reply #459 on: November 21, 2016, 01:58:10 PM »

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They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes. 

Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
2-0

but yea
Ravaged by injury yet again!

Lol. Do you think they will do a 30 for 30 on the Jarrett Jack injury?
That's a great idea.  People need to realize how much of a difference maker Jack is.

I am assuming you are joking, but there are some people that really did believe that. He couldn't make a team this year (was cut by the hawks and beat out by Will Bynum) and hasn't been signed anywhere else. He also was shooting 39% from the field and 30% from 3 and "jacking" 11 shots a game last year. I think he actually makes teams worse when he plays for them. I live in the Bay Area and I remember a few of the radio guys and commentators talking about that. He really killed their ball movement when he was here and it immediately moved a lot better when he was gone. This was also 3 years ago when he was a lot better player.
I was joking and I agree with you.  A couple people here made it seem like the Nets may have won a championship last year if not for Jack's injury. 

Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-9, #6 on 11/20)
« Reply #460 on: November 21, 2016, 02:29:56 PM »

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Almost one-fifth of the way through the season. Well, that went fast. 13 games isn't quite the first 20 (our artificial cut-off for determining how good a team is, I guess), but close enough. I'm still at 22-24 wins for the Nets. That opinion and $4 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. Nevertheless, this is the internet and I have a keyboard, so here goes...

I had really high (low?) hopes for the Nets. Alas, they do seem to be better than expected. Yes, they have been scoring 3-pointers at a very high rate and teams will eventually start to guard them, but perhaps that's just because, well, they're better than expected. And I know that Jeremy Lin isn't perfect, but he does seem to rise to the occasion.

According to ESPN:

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An update on Lin's status was supposed to be released late last week, but it appears he still remains without a timetable for a return and could be multiple games away from seeing the court. Isaiah Whitehead is fully over his concussion and will re-enter the starting lineup in Lin's place, while Randy Foye is expected to come off the bench behind Whitehead. Lin should be considered day-to-day moving forward until additional information is provided.

Sounds like Lin could be a few more games. Next four games are Boston, @Indy, Sac and LAC. Looks like about 1-3.

Four games after that is an easy stretch. Milwaukee, @Milwaukee, Washington, Denver. 2-2? I'm assuming Lin will be back by December 1, the Milwaukee game.

Wow, the rest of December is tough. Only three home games out of the remaining 11 in the month, with games against LAL (in theory, winnable), Golden State and Charlotte. I like those odds. 3-8 during that time?

With those numbers, they finish 2016 at 10-22 (which is actually better than their current 4-9 on a percentage basis).

The only downside is that there look like there will be more crappy teams than expected. Philly and Phoenix are just bad. If I were them, I'd give Simmons doesn't play this year. New Orleans, Washington, Sacramento and possibly Dallas are threats. I'd like to think that at least Washington and Dallas will pull through for us.

If I'm right, and I rarely am, we're looking at the 4th or 5th worst team.

Mike

Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-9, #6 on 11/20)
« Reply #461 on: November 22, 2016, 10:48:45 AM »

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FiveThirtyEight's current prediction...tied with Philly for worst record in the league at 25 - 57

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Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
« Reply #462 on: November 22, 2016, 10:51:55 AM »

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They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes. 

Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
2-0

but yea
Ravaged by injury yet again!

Lol. Do you think they will do a 30 for 30 on the Jarrett Jack injury?
What if I told you, they were secretly a playoff team despite never once crawling out of the bottom 6.

Hahah, I'm dying. Lbbrd really does remind me of Skip Bayless.

Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
« Reply #463 on: November 22, 2016, 11:10:08 AM »

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They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes. 

Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
2-0

but yea
Ravaged by injury yet again!

Lol. Do you think they will do a 30 for 30 on the Jarrett Jack injury?
What if I told you, they were secretly a playoff team despite never once crawling out of the bottom 6.

Hahah, I'm dying. Lbbrd really does remind me of Skip Bayless.

In fairness, it wasn't that Jack was that great, it was that his backup was that awful.  The Nets had horrible depth issues last year which they've somewhat addressed this year.  In watching the games, it also felt like Jack & Lopez were the only 2 people on their team with any level of skill and trying hard to win. 

Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
« Reply #464 on: November 22, 2016, 11:19:20 AM »

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They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes. 

Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
2-0

but yea
Ravaged by injury yet again!

Lol. Do you think they will do a 30 for 30 on the Jarrett Jack injury?
What if I told you, they were secretly a playoff team despite never once crawling out of the bottom 6.

Hahah, I'm dying. Lbbrd really does remind me of Skip Bayless.

In fairness, it wasn't that Jack was that great, it was that his backup was that awful.  The Nets had horrible depth issues last year which they've somewhat addressed this year.  In watching the games, it also felt like Jack & Lopez were the only 2 people on their team with any level of skill and trying hard to win.

I think you are completely overvaluing what a healthy Jack brought to that team.  Jack shot under 40% from the floor, and his eFG wasn't much better.  He had a good number of assists, but also a lot of turnovers.  The drop off between Jack and Shane Larkin wasn't particularly steep at all, and that's not meant as a compliment to Shane Larkin.