Bulpett:It might be wait until next year

[Eddie20]

In other words, Grousbeck pulled his annual stunt, and still doesn't want to spend any money.

Glad I'm not paying for season tickets in that scenario. What's that old canard about a fool and his money being soon parted?

You can possibly that naive, can you?

I'd ask you the same question.

How many times are you going to let Grousbeck cry wolf before you hold him accountable?

It seems to always be "Wait until next year" with this franchise.

It has been since they cheaped out on James Posey after the title.

Eight years.

You really think this has do with money, not player availability? You can't be serious. Can you please let me know what REALISTIC players are available in free agency that you want Ainge to pay up for? This should be a fun list.

[CoachBo]

In other words, Grousbeck pulled his annual stunt, and still doesn't want to spend any money.

Glad I'm not paying for season tickets in that scenario. What's that old canard about a fool and his money being soon parted?

You can possibly that naive, can you?

I'd ask you the same question.

How many times are you going to let Grousbeck cry wolf before you hold him accountable?

It seems to always be "Wait until next year" with this franchise.

Wait until next year seems to be more of a basketball failing than a money failing.

I believe Ainge and Wyc understand that overpaying for players that hamstring flexibility and dont vault us to contention are bad basketball moves. I think its fair to criticize Wyc for his fireworks type comments, but I dont think Wyc will ever veto an Ainge move because he doesnt wanna spend the money.

Using flexibility is an excuse. How do you hamstring $50 million in flexibility in the above story.

Failing to make any significant move outside the draft equals a failed summer. Again.

If that happens, Grousbeck's credibility is shot.

[Snakehead]

Bo you should go become a Knicks fan.  You'd love it.  Spending with no logic or reason.

[Donoghus]

In other words, Grousbeck pulled his annual stunt, and still doesn't want to spend any money.

Glad I'm not paying for season tickets in that scenario. What's that old canard about a fool and his money being soon parted?

You can possibly that naive, can you?

I'd ask you the same question.

How many times are you going to let Grousbeck cry wolf before you hold him accountable?

It seems to always be "Wait until next year" with this franchise.

Wait until next year seems to be more of a basketball failing than a money failing.

I believe Ainge and Wyc understand that overpaying for players that hamstring flexibility and dont vault us to contention are bad basketball moves. I think its fair to criticize Wyc for his fireworks type comments, but I dont think Wyc will ever veto an Ainge move because he doesnt wanna spend the money.

Using flexibility is an excuse. How do you hamstring $50 million in flexibility in the above story.

Failing to make any significant move outside the draft equals a failed summer. Again.

If that happens, Grousbeck's credibility is shot.

Not really.  Just for the instant gratification crowd who would be content on getting their beloved "fireworks" only to flounder around as a 3/4 seed & 2nd round exit for the foreseeable future.

Spending just for the sake of spending gets teams in more trouble that good in the NBA.  And a 2007 type offseason was most likely a once in a lifetime shot based on the convergence of some incredible circumstances.

[walker834]

I think we are going to  pick Dunn and either hold him or swing him for a player that can land us Butler ultimately.  Grousbeck isn't afraid to spend.  It's more a matter of finding the right situations which takes time.   I don't think Butler is on the move just yet.

It's not necessarily Butler either.  I think it just takes time where we need more pieces to get in position to land a star but major moves will be made.   We'll probably spend the rest of the draft drafting stash players and more potential roleplayers plus maybe trade for another vet.

[Eddie20]

Bo you should go become a Knicks fan.  You'd love it.  Spending with no logic or reason.

It's almost as though Bo lives in alternate universe devoid of any rationalization. Thankfully, he doesn't proclaim himself as "GMBo"

[GreenCoffeeBean]

I don't mind waiting. The best free agents don't seem to be going any where and the next tier of FAs are in the risky 30+ year old Center category. Our team is so young that we'll be better from that alone. The trade deadline will be here before we know it and maybe things will look better then.

[walker834]

The celtics are all on the same page and in this for the long haul. Good ownership, coaching and GMing. 

[alldaboston]

In other words, Grousbeck pulled his annual stunt, and still doesn't want to spend any money.

Glad I'm not paying for season tickets in that scenario. What's that old canard about a fool and his money being soon parted?

You can possibly that naive, can you?

I'd ask you the same question.

How many times are you going to let Grousbeck cry wolf before you hold him accountable?

It seems to always be "Wait until next year" with this franchise.

It has been since they cheaped out on James Posey after the title.

Eight years.

You really think this has do with money, not player availability? You can't be serious. Can you please let me know what REALISTIC players are available in free agency that you want Ainge to pay up for? This should be a fun list.

You'll be waiting for awhile. CoachBo always criticizes us for not getting the right guys but he never tells us who he would like to have.

[The One]

Only thing worse than no deal is a bad deal.

Would rather wait too.

[BitterJim]

In other words, Grousbeck pulled his annual stunt, and still doesn't want to spend any money.

Glad I'm not paying for season tickets in that scenario. What's that old canard about a fool and his money being soon parted?

You can possibly that naive, can you?

I'd ask you the same question.

How many times are you going to let Grousbeck cry wolf before you hold him accountable?

It seems to always be "Wait until next year" with this franchise.

Wait until next year seems to be more of a basketball failing than a money failing.

I believe Ainge and Wyc understand that overpaying for players that hamstring flexibility and dont vault us to contention are bad basketball moves. I think its fair to criticize Wyc for his fireworks type comments, but I dont think Wyc will ever veto an Ainge move because he doesnt wanna spend the money.

Using flexibility is an excuse. How do you hamstring $50 million in flexibility in the above story.

Failing to make any significant move outside the draft equals a failed summer. Again.

If that happens, Grousbeck's credibility is shot.

Not really.  Just for the instant gratification crowd who would be content on getting their beloved "fireworks" only to flounder around as a 3/4 seed & 2nd round exit for the foreseeable future.

Spending just for the sake of spending gets teams in more trouble that good in the NBA.  And a 2007 type offseason was most likely a once in a lifetime shot based on the convergence of some incredible circumstances.

This is just stupid.  It's easy to make a contender with the assets and cap space we have.  Just spend it all, like the Nets in 2013.  They set themselves up beautifully.  They could have been in a horrible spot if they had decided to "be patient" or "maintain flexibility", which are just other ways of saying "being unprepared" and "failing at their job"

[elcotte]

In other words, Grousbeck pulled his annual stunt, and still doesn't want to spend any money.

Glad I'm not paying for season tickets in that scenario. What's that old canard about a fool and his money being soon parted?

You can possibly that naive, can you?

I'd ask you the same question.

How many times are you going to let Grousbeck cry wolf before you hold him accountable?

It seems to always be "Wait until next year" with this franchise.

It has been since they cheaped out on James Posey after the title.

Eight years.

You really think this has do with money, not player availability? You can't be serious. Can you please let me know what REALISTIC players are available in free agency that you want Ainge to pay up for? This should be a fun list.

You'll be waiting for awhile. CoachBo always criticizes us for not getting the right guys but he never tells us who he would like to have.

He doesn't really understand that for a deal to take place it takes at least two teams.

[walker834]

This is why the celtics are considered the top echelon of organizations.  They aren't stupid and are all on the same page. They don't have meddling owners and rogue GM's or people meddling.  We have great ownership, a great gm and a great coach and they all have the same goal and direction.   The Celtics are going to win ultimately and are a great organization. 

the stuff danny does and work he puts in exploring every deal to find the right ones ultimately is very real.

It's going to lead to a championship ultimately.

[Monkhouse]

I trust Ainge, so I believe he's going to do his best job at making the right deals for us.

Everyone is so contingent and anxious, wanting another savory banner for instant gratification; but Ainge cannot guarantee 2007 again.

If it means being patient, making small smart deals, and still developing better than 48 wins would be nothing short of crazy.

Ainge is patient, and Wyc, as a fan, sometimes not.

[Chief Macho]

half  you posters must huff glue.   the way you see the Celtics and everyone else sees them is bizarre.  they are irrelevant in the nba right now.    it's always wait till next year because danny ainge has zero pressure on him from management or the fans.   if he would have drafted better this team might have a chance.  god knows how bad he's going to screw up this draft if he can't fleece someone in a trade.   which, teams aren't buying anymore.